Oct 4, 2018, 1:05 pm
Last edit by: roberto99
Faq amex: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/campaigns/gold-card/gold-update-faqs.html
For existing and new cardholders
For new cardholders (Oct 4 2018 and after)
For existing cardholders (Oct 3 2018 or before)
For existing and new cardholders
- Changes below are effective immediately
- 4x US grocery (25k/calendar year), 4x US dining* (*pervasive reports that many dining transactions are not coding as 4x, including but not limited to those from Square or Toast-based POS systems. Scroll down in thread for more reports and information.)
- $120 dining credit ($10 monthly in certain restaurants)
- No change
- $100 calendar year airline reimbursement
- Other
- $250 AF (see below for existing cardholders)
- No 2x gas (removed, see below for existing cardholders who have it till Oct 2019)
- Metal card (contactless)
- Rose gold card - limited edition until Jan 9 2019
- Regular gold card
For new cardholders (Oct 4 2018 and after)
- You may be able to find targeted/referal 50k/$2k, but first AF is not waived
- Signup bonus: You get 20% off restaurant up to $500 restaurant spend (3 month)
- You do not get 2x gas (only for existing cardholders, see below)
For existing cardholders (Oct 3 2018 or before)
- AF will change to $250 for anniversary dates after April 1 2019
- 2x gas will be removed after Oct 2019
- You can chat/call for the gold/rosegold metal card. AU card will get whatever primary cardholder is getting, cannot be different
Premier Rewards Gold refresh: 4x USA dining, groceries, $10/mon dining credit. $250.
Sep 21, 2018, 5:00 pm
#61
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,224
As an urban millenial who probably puts at least $75/month toward Grubhub/Uber Eats (and, yes, Shakeshack) and dines (or drinks) out 5-6 nights/ week it's hard not to see these cards being geared for people like me.
Basically for me, with things like the Platinum uber credit and this potential $10 Grubhub/Shakeshack credit - it's money that I'm going to spend anyways going right back into my pocket. Is it small potatoes? Sure, but over the course of the year it certainly justifies the AF for me. I just hope the Rittenhouse Square ShakeShack participates!
Basically for me, with things like the Platinum uber credit and this potential $10 Grubhub/Shakeshack credit - it's money that I'm going to spend anyways going right back into my pocket. Is it small potatoes? Sure, but over the course of the year it certainly justifies the AF for me. I just hope the Rittenhouse Square ShakeShack participates!
I expect the same for the food benefit
Sep 21, 2018, 6:19 pm
#62
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,454
I just used the Aspire $250 resort credit at HHV, where I typically stay at least once per year. Cut the cost of my stay by 60%. And my favorite pizza place I can order take-out using Grub Hub. I'll get the full $120 out of that benefit as well.
So these benefits are both 100% value for me. Doubt I'm the only one.
If these cards don't work for you, don't get them.
Sep 21, 2018, 6:57 pm
#63
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
The whining around here sure gets tiresome.
I just used the Aspire $250 resort credit at HHV, where I typically stay at least once per year. Cut the cost of my stay by 60%. And my favorite pizza place I can order take-out using Grub Hub. I'll get the full $120 out of that benefit as well.
So these benefits are both 100% value for me. Doubt I'm the only one.
If these cards don't work for you, don't get them.
I just used the Aspire $250 resort credit at HHV, where I typically stay at least once per year. Cut the cost of my stay by 60%. And my favorite pizza place I can order take-out using Grub Hub. I'll get the full $120 out of that benefit as well.
So these benefits are both 100% value for me. Doubt I'm the only one.
If these cards don't work for you, don't get them.
This is the public forum, we can all express our opinions. Right or wrong, to me, or to you. We are all different. Please hold some respect to other members.
Sep 21, 2018, 7:09 pm
#64
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,192
From Doctor of Credit:
- Name will be changed to ‘American Express Gold Card’
- Card will be available in two different colors, Gold & Rose Gold. Both will be metal
- Sign up bonus will be 25,000 points after $2,000 in spend plus 20% back as a statement credit on purchases at U.S. Restaurants up to $100 back
- Annual fee will remain the same
Other previously rumored benefits are accurate:
$120 dining credit. This is a $10 monthly credit that can be used at Grubhub, Seamless, The Cheesecake Factory, Ruth’s Chris Steak House, Shake Shack.
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. Restaurants
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. supermarkets, up to $25,000 in spend per calendar year
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/addit...nual-fee-more/
- Name will be changed to ‘American Express Gold Card’
- Card will be available in two different colors, Gold & Rose Gold. Both will be metal
- Sign up bonus will be 25,000 points after $2,000 in spend plus 20% back as a statement credit on purchases at U.S. Restaurants up to $100 back
- Annual fee will remain the same
Other previously rumored benefits are accurate:
$120 dining credit. This is a $10 monthly credit that can be used at Grubhub, Seamless, The Cheesecake Factory, Ruth’s Chris Steak House, Shake Shack.
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. Restaurants
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. supermarkets, up to $25,000 in spend per calendar year
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/addit...nual-fee-more/
Sep 21, 2018, 10:19 pm
#65
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,224
From Doctor of Credit:
- Name will be changed to ‘American Express Gold Card’
- Card will be available in two different colors, Gold & Rose Gold. Both will be metal
- Sign up bonus will be 25,000 points after $2,000 in spend plus 20% back as a statement credit on purchases at U.S. Restaurants up to $100 back
- Annual fee will remain the same
Other previously rumored benefits are accurate:
$120 dining credit. This is a $10 monthly credit that can be used at Grubhub, Seamless, The Cheesecake Factory, Ruth’s Chris Steak House, Shake Shack.
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. Restaurants
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. supermarkets, up to $25,000 in spend per calendar year
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/addit...nual-fee-more/
- Name will be changed to ‘American Express Gold Card’
- Card will be available in two different colors, Gold & Rose Gold. Both will be metal
- Sign up bonus will be 25,000 points after $2,000 in spend plus 20% back as a statement credit on purchases at U.S. Restaurants up to $100 back
- Annual fee will remain the same
Other previously rumored benefits are accurate:
$120 dining credit. This is a $10 monthly credit that can be used at Grubhub, Seamless, The Cheesecake Factory, Ruth’s Chris Steak House, Shake Shack.
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. Restaurants
Card will earn 4x points at U.S. supermarkets, up to $25,000 in spend per calendar year
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/addit...nual-fee-more/
Sep 21, 2018, 10:21 pm
#66
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BAY AREA
Posts: 1,125
You can probably request one. That's why they ran out of the metal plat. There was a surge of New metal cards requests.
Sep 21, 2018, 10:22 pm
#67
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 332
So if you sign up for this card there is no huge point bonus or spending requirement just these bonuses (4x certain restaurant etc) that come from using the card?
Sep 21, 2018, 10:37 pm
#69
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,954
Sep 22, 2018, 1:29 am
#70
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: JRF
Programs: AA Gold, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, National Executive Elite
Posts: 1,784
Sep 22, 2018, 2:23 am
#71
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,192
Sep 22, 2018, 2:44 am
#72
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 561
Surely Amex is not dumb. Because for every savvy user that takes full advantage of these benefits, there's one user who doesn't and still pays the annual fee. THIS is how Amex makes money. If you're trying to remind people to think critically about such benefits, that is definitely appreciated. If you use GrubHub already, then this $120 dining credit is worth $120 to you; if you don't order delivery food, then it's of zero value to you. Easy math. That would be respectful. But merely suggesting that valuing these credits equals being fooled by Amex is not in line with your statement above.
Sep 22, 2018, 7:05 am
#73
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
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Surely Amex is not dumb. Because for every savvy user that takes full advantage of these benefits, there's one user who doesn't and still pays the annual fee. THIS is how Amex makes money. If you're trying to remind people to think critically about such benefits, that is definitely appreciated. If you use GrubHub already, then this $120 dining credit is worth $120 to you; if you don't order delivery food, then it's of zero value to you.
Surely Amex is not dumb. Because for every savvy user that takes full advantage of these benefits, there's one user who doesn't and still pays the annual fee. THIS is how Amex makes money. If you're trying to remind people to think critically about such benefits, that is definitely appreciated. If you use GrubHub already, then this $120 dining credit is worth $120 to you; if you don't order delivery food, then it's of zero value to you.
Sep 22, 2018, 2:45 pm
#74
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BAY AREA
Posts: 1,125
No idea why people keep saying they'll drop the CSR for this card. I've seen these comment in so many other forums. I still think CSR is still superior to Amex rumored card. At least you can use the UR points at 1.5 rate for any travel especially booking hotels vs Amex. Chase doesn't charge any tax fees when transferring to partners. I don't need to go details on CSR travel insurance. I've had Amex since 93 and I think it's a positive thing that Amex is upgrading it's PRG card. I'll be using the supermarket charges on this card but will still use CSR at restaurants. I guess each person has different needs.
Sep 22, 2018, 3:19 pm
#75
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: EWR
Programs: World of Hyatt, Marriott Bonvoy, Hilton Honors, UA Mileage Plus
Posts: 1,255
No idea why people keep saying they'll drop the CSR for this card. I've seen these comment in so many other forums. I still think CSR is still superior to Amex rumored card. At least you can use the UR points at 1.5 rate for any travel especially booking hotels vs Amex. Chase doesn't charge any tax fees when transferring to partners. I don't need to go details on CSR travel insurance. I've had Amex since 93 and I think it's a positive thing that Amex is upgrading it's PRG card. I'll be using the supermarket charges on this card but will still use CSR at restaurants. I guess each person has different needs.
What it does do is make the CSR less appealing as I prefer 4x MR vs 3x UR. Now I need to decide if spending $150ish/yr in AF on the CSR is worth it when I’m only going to be putting “travel” spend on it. I will again need to review my yearly spend. Even now I am doing my best to maximize AMEX hotel offers and I don’t charge many hotels to my CSR anymore. It has become my eating out/rental car/EZpass/parking meter credit card.