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Old Jan 18, 2016, 10:43 am
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This thread is a continuation of: Churning Amex in Canada (2015)

Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.

Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:

Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).

JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers

New as of Jun 30, 2016
AMEX Platinum Rewards - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral + earn 15K MR for each referral you make
(Note: from Mar 23 - Jun 29 the bonuses were 75K welcome and 25K referral points)

New as of March 23 2016
AMEX Business Platinum Rewards - $399/year, 75K MR (via referral) after $5000 spending in 3 months vs. 40K non-referral + earn 25K MR for each referral you make
(Note: as of Jun 30, the Business Platinum is still at 75K welcome and 25K referral points).

New as of May 2016
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $1500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
(Note: as of mid-May 2016, Gold will now earn 5K points for referring and increased from $500 to $1500 required spending. FYI: from Jan 11 to mid-May, the Gold card earned 0 referral points.)

AMEX Business Gold Rewards - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)

AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, 2000 Air Miles after $1500 spending + $30 GCR cashback

AMEX SPG - $120/year, 20K SPG after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback

New as of July 2016
AMEX Aeroplan Plus Platinum - $499/year, 50K Aeroplans after $1000 spending in 3 months (or 51K via referral). The 50K/51K, extra 10K promo expired on April 01, 2016, but started up again July - Sep 30th, 2016.
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
I know things Amex reps say aren't as reliable as real data points but I just wanted to add what I gleaned from a conversation with an Amex rep today. They really seem to be all over the place on the referrals matter.

The rep told me that all referrals are fair game aside from those involving Personal Golds. So referring within the set of Biz Gold, Plat, and Biz Plat (from and to any of those three) will yield referral points, according to this rep.
Thanks. This information corresponds then with the footnotes on the application pages.
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 6:00 pm
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what's the old referral link?
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ecgz88
what's the old referral link?
Its one that used to yield referral points,despite the terms saying none.
It appears that it is now extinct.
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer05
I know things Amex reps say aren't as reliable as real data points but I just wanted to add what I gleaned from a conversation with an Amex rep today. They really seem to be all over the place on the referrals matter.

The rep told me that all referrals are fair game aside from those involving Personal Golds. So referring within the set of Biz Gold, Plat, and Biz Plat (from and to any of those three) will yield referral points, according to this rep.
Really appreciate you sharing this.
I have a biz gold....as soon as i get a referral,I'll post a data point.
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I currently only have a Pers Gold so I'm gonna make one of you guys very happy soon since I might as well use someone else's link as I get 0 it I refer from my Gold
please people, stop sending me messages, I'm not applying yet, sometime next month, this wasn't supposed to be an invitation to send me messages like

I'll send you a photo of my feet if you use my referral

pm me if you're interested
I'm gonna keep the sender anonymous on this one... lol
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 9:23 pm
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
please people, stop sending me messages, I'm not applying yet, sometime next month, this wasn't supposed to be an invitation to send me messages like



I'm gonna keep the sender anonymous on this one... lol
That must be some happy feet
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by jubberly
Why not try using the old referral link,not enough data points to show that referral points really are not continuing to be earned....unless you'd rather take someones cash offer of at least $150!
Where does one find 150$ cash offers for this card?

I wanted to self-refer from biz gold to plat, but according to this thread that gives 0 referral points...
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 8:41 am
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Data point:

3/28/16 - I referred a friend from my personal Platinum and they applied for a personal Gold. It was the new referral link. Instant approval.

3/29/16 - 25,000 bonus points applied to my account. The description of points were 'Bonus Points' not 'Referral Bonus'

Date | Description | Charge | Base points | Bonus Points | Total Points
03/29/2016 | Bonus points | |0 | 25,000 | 25,000


Anyone know if these points could be from somewhere else? I wasn't expecting any bonuses.
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by erwintok
Where does one find 150$ cash offers for this card?

I wanted to self-refer from biz gold to plat, but according to this thread that gives 0 referral points...
The offers usually come to you....if not,there are other message boards.I have seen an offer for $190.
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 12:01 pm
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As another update:

AMEX is lightning fast! Applied on Friday for my self-referred Gold Rewards from my Platinum. Call came on Saturday to confirm additional security information and the 25K referral posted Sunday.

I received the card in the mail today, the first day with mail delivery after the long weekend. Shocked at how quick AMEX is these days!
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by tng11
As another update:

AMEX is lightning fast! Applied on Friday for my self-referred Gold Rewards from my Platinum. Call came on Saturday to confirm additional security information and the 25K referral posted Sunday.

I received the card in the mail today, the first day with mail delivery after the long weekend. Shocked at how quick AMEX is these days!
Amex referral points have definitely been lightning quick lately. Applied for a Biz Gold in early March, late at night, and it was put into pending status. By the next morning I was ready to call to get the status but already saw the referral points posted...less than 12 hours after the pending notice!

As for delivery speeds, the Gold is normally delivered using courier, so 3-5 days is typical...yours was exceptional.
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by tng11
As another update:

AMEX is lightning fast! Applied on Friday for my self-referred Gold Rewards from my Platinum. Call came on Saturday to confirm additional security information and the 25K referral posted Sunday.

I received the card in the mail today, the first day with mail delivery after the long weekend. Shocked at how quick AMEX is these days!
Does the description say 'Bonus Points' or 'Referral Points'?
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by loun80
Does the description say 'Bonus Points' or 'Referral Points'?
"Bonus Points"
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by erwintok
Where does one find 150$ cash offers for this card?

I wanted to self-refer from biz gold to plat, but according to this thread that gives 0 referral points...
Most data points (FT & RFD, as some even SM AMEX to confirm)
Biz Gold -> other AMEX MR card will give you the 10K referral points (better than nothing)

Unless you find some Plat to refer you for better value/offer
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