Review of Canadian Amex Plat
#602
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
It looks like the Platinum Dining program has been "enhanced" away. There description of the benefits has been watered down (more more&mirrors and could/would language, less explicit) and there is no more explicit description of the free amenity offered by each participating restaurant.
https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...staurants.html
I benefited from this program twice during a recent stay in Quebec City and received free wine and champagne at Le Sam and Champlain restaurants in the Fairmont Le Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City
https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...staurants.html
I benefited from this program twice during a recent stay in Quebec City and received free wine and champagne at Le Sam and Champlain restaurants in the Fairmont Le Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City
#603
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
It looks like the Platinum Dining program has been "enhanced" away. There description of the benefits has been watered down (more more&mirrors and could/would language, less explicit) and there is no more explicit description of the free amenity offered by each participating restaurant.
https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...staurants.html
I benefited from this program twice during a recent stay in Quebec City and received free wine and champagne at Le Sam and Champlain restaurants in the Fairmont Le Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City
https://www.americanexpress.com/ca/e...staurants.html
I benefited from this program twice during a recent stay in Quebec City and received free wine and champagne at Le Sam and Champlain restaurants in the Fairmont Le Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City
#604
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 167
Canadian American Express Platinum Travel Credit
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Last edited by dts9; Nov 7, 2018 at 9:09 am
#605
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
I have been a Canadian Amex Platinum member for several years with an anniversary date of September.
Each January, a $200 travel credit was posted that had to be used before the end of the year.
This year, I decided to cancel and was told that the $200 travel credit I used in January 2018 was based on the 2018 membership fee, so the $200 will be charged if I cancel.
Does that make any sense... It is obviously a new angle as the most recent statement had a change to the travel credit conditions where its says, effective Jan 2019, it will be posted on your anniversary date not January 1st.
This means that anyone who used their travel credit in 2018 BEFORE there renewal date, will have a whole year and $699 fee, until it is posted on their 2019 renewal date...
Watch out for this.
Each January, a $200 travel credit was posted that had to be used before the end of the year.
This year, I decided to cancel and was told that the $200 travel credit I used in January 2018 was based on the 2018 membership fee, so the $200 will be charged if I cancel.
Does that make any sense... It is obviously a new angle as the most recent statement had a change to the travel credit conditions where its says, effective Jan 2019, it will be posted on your anniversary date not January 1st.
This means that anyone who used their travel credit in 2018 BEFORE there renewal date, will have a whole year and $699 fee, until it is posted on their 2019 renewal date...
Watch out for this.
#606
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 7
Great head up.
I have been a Canadian Amex Platinum member for several years with an anniversary date of September.
Each January, a $200 travel credit was posted that had to be used before the end of the year.
This year, I decided to cancel and was told that the $200 travel credit I used in January 2018 was based on the 2018 membership fee, so the $200 will be charged if I cancel.
Does that make any sense... It is obviously a new angle as the most recent statement had a change to the travel credit conditions where its says, effective Jan 2019, it will be posted on your anniversary date not January 1st.
This means that anyone who used their travel credit in 2018 BEFORE there renewal date, will have a whole year and $699 fee, until it is posted on their 2019 renewal date...
Watch out for this.
Each January, a $200 travel credit was posted that had to be used before the end of the year.
This year, I decided to cancel and was told that the $200 travel credit I used in January 2018 was based on the 2018 membership fee, so the $200 will be charged if I cancel.
Does that make any sense... It is obviously a new angle as the most recent statement had a change to the travel credit conditions where its says, effective Jan 2019, it will be posted on your anniversary date not January 1st.
This means that anyone who used their travel credit in 2018 BEFORE there renewal date, will have a whole year and $699 fee, until it is posted on their 2019 renewal date...
Watch out for this.
#607
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 167
The agreement they send you is very clear. It outlines that a member is entitled to a $200 travel credit every calendar year.
Historically that has posted in january, so following the terms, someone could join in July and get two $200 travel credits and then cancel the card. Nothing wrong with that as following the terms.
To fix that, they have adjusted the terms and conditions to say that you get the travel credit on your anniversary date, ie upon paying your $699 fee..
This fixes the double dipping by people who only keep the card for a year, but impacts loyal card holders,\
ie, if you originally signed up in December year ago, you have been getting the $200 every January.
This december, you will pay $699 and get NO TRAVEL CREDIT in the entire membership year... your next travel credit wont be until you renew in Dec 2019.
That is not fair...
Historically that has posted in january, so following the terms, someone could join in July and get two $200 travel credits and then cancel the card. Nothing wrong with that as following the terms.
To fix that, they have adjusted the terms and conditions to say that you get the travel credit on your anniversary date, ie upon paying your $699 fee..
This fixes the double dipping by people who only keep the card for a year, but impacts loyal card holders,\
ie, if you originally signed up in December year ago, you have been getting the $200 every January.
This december, you will pay $699 and get NO TRAVEL CREDIT in the entire membership year... your next travel credit wont be until you renew in Dec 2019.
That is not fair...
#608
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: YSC (and all its regularly scheduled flights)
Posts: 2,521
The agreement they send you is very clear. It outlines that a member is entitled to a $200 travel credit every calendar year.
Historically that has posted in january, so following the terms, someone could join in July and get two $200 travel credits and then cancel the card. Nothing wrong with that as following the terms.
To fix that, they have adjusted the terms and conditions to say that you get the travel credit on your anniversary date, ie upon paying your $699 fee..
This fixes the double dipping by people who only keep the card for a year, but impacts loyal card holders,\
ie, if you originally signed up in December year ago, you have been getting the $200 every January.
This december, you will pay $699 and get NO TRAVEL CREDIT in the entire membership year... your next travel credit wont be until you renew in Dec 2019.
That is not fair...
Historically that has posted in january, so following the terms, someone could join in July and get two $200 travel credits and then cancel the card. Nothing wrong with that as following the terms.
To fix that, they have adjusted the terms and conditions to say that you get the travel credit on your anniversary date, ie upon paying your $699 fee..
This fixes the double dipping by people who only keep the card for a year, but impacts loyal card holders,\
ie, if you originally signed up in December year ago, you have been getting the $200 every January.
This december, you will pay $699 and get NO TRAVEL CREDIT in the entire membership year... your next travel credit wont be until you renew in Dec 2019.
That is not fair...
That will be an extra $700 in my wallet every year.
Dr. PITUK
#609
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Starwood:Lifetime Platinum, Air Canada:Basic, Asiana:Lifetime Diamond Plus, ANA: Basic
Posts: 980
Definitely not fair. I got caught by this when I tried to use my credit today. The supervisor was pretty bad and tried to make it sound like I didn't understand and that the benefit was exactly the same. If I had known this at my renewal last June, I never would have renewed. Of course since they announced the change in the small print on the back side of my bill, after I had already paid, there was nothing I could do about it. I have only been a member since 2010 (I previously had a UK Amex Plat), but I certainly won't be renewing this card. The benefits that I want to use have deteriorated in any case.
That will be an extra $700 in my wallet every year.
Dr. PITUK
That will be an extra $700 in my wallet every year.
Dr. PITUK
A good change for AMEX is to allow those travel credits to roll-over for a two year period so it increase flexibility.
#610
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
Definitely not fair. I got caught by this when I tried to use my credit today. The supervisor was pretty bad and tried to make it sound like I didn't understand and that the benefit was exactly the same. If I had known this at my renewal last June, I never would have renewed. Of course since they announced the change in the small print on the back side of my bill, after I had already paid, there was nothing I could do about it. I have only been a member since 2010 (I previously had a UK Amex Plat), but I certainly won't be renewing this card. The benefits that I want to use have deteriorated in any case.
That will be an extra $700 in my wallet every year.
Dr. PITUK
That will be an extra $700 in my wallet every year.
Dr. PITUK
However, if you didn’t obtain a credit earlier in 2018, then it’s definitely unfair and Amex should do something to make it right. And that’s coming from someone who agrees directionally with the latest policy change.
#611
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: YSC (and all its regularly scheduled flights)
Posts: 2,521
Hi ffsim,
I did use the credit back in May 2018 - before my renewal date. I renewed my card on the basis that the travel credits were done on a calendar year basis and I could book my flight last week and use my credit. Had it been renewal date basis, then I may not have renewed, but I wasn't given the choice. Based on the rules in place when the contract was put in place, I should have been able to use my credit on Jan 1. They changed the rules. Had I not renewed my card, then they couldn't have come after me for a credit used in good faith. I get 0 credits during my 'fiscal' (rather than calendar) 2019. Maybe my total life time credits can just be moved around and I can use my 2019 credit in September instead, but they no longer have my good faith.
At no point have I tried to 'flip' this card, and have only canceled in the past to move to a different country and back.
Dr. PITUK
I did use the credit back in May 2018 - before my renewal date. I renewed my card on the basis that the travel credits were done on a calendar year basis and I could book my flight last week and use my credit. Had it been renewal date basis, then I may not have renewed, but I wasn't given the choice. Based on the rules in place when the contract was put in place, I should have been able to use my credit on Jan 1. They changed the rules. Had I not renewed my card, then they couldn't have come after me for a credit used in good faith. I get 0 credits during my 'fiscal' (rather than calendar) 2019. Maybe my total life time credits can just be moved around and I can use my 2019 credit in September instead, but they no longer have my good faith.
At no point have I tried to 'flip' this card, and have only canceled in the past to move to a different country and back.
Dr. PITUK
#612
I called Amex on Thursday. I was told that I can't use my renewal until October.
That is terrible, I have only had the card a few years, but will cancel after this. The card is barely a good deal with the 1.25 points per dollar and Priority Pass. But I used to think the $200 I used every year anyhow, so it was a $700 - 200, so a $500 fee for Priority Pass. Don't think I will renew!
They say the credit will come in October. Problem is every year I use the credit in January and book for my annual March trip. This year I won't get the credit until October? Will I only get 3 months and then it will expire. Terrible change and poor communication on Amex's part.
That is terrible, I have only had the card a few years, but will cancel after this. The card is barely a good deal with the 1.25 points per dollar and Priority Pass. But I used to think the $200 I used every year anyhow, so it was a $700 - 200, so a $500 fee for Priority Pass. Don't think I will renew!
They say the credit will come in October. Problem is every year I use the credit in January and book for my annual March trip. This year I won't get the credit until October? Will I only get 3 months and then it will expire. Terrible change and poor communication on Amex's part.
#613
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 48,958
#614
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*E50, SPG/Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,917
I also won't renew. 500$ for Hilton Gold, CC Gold and Priority Pass is not worth it.
#615
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
I will cancel mine after using the anniversary $200 travel credit but within 30 days after annual fee hits my account. Worst case is they claw back the $200 credit from the refund. There is now no upside in cancelling before annual fee hits to avoid the clawback of the second $200 travel credit with these changes in effect