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PHX Links
Official Website of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
PHX Sky Harbor: Frequently Asked Questions pages(Dining, shops, parking, art, museum)
Link to archived posts 2009-2013.This is to give travelers an idea how to navigate through PHX (locals call it "Sky Harbor").

NOTE: There are an increasing number of flights arriving at Phoenix/Mesa Gateway airport (the former Williams Air Force Base). This is NOT PHX/Sky Harbor. Typically Allegiant and charter flights will arrive/depart from Gateway. Official Website of Phoenix-Mesa/Gateway Airport.

PHX Terminal 4 - AA uses the four concourses shown as "A" and "B"
The terminal map website is PHX T4 Map It includes terminal maps plus shops and restaurants by terminal.


AA in PHX
AA operates flights out of Terminal 4 (also called the Barry Goldwater Terminal), concourses A and B (basically the North side of T4). There are four concourses on the north side of terminal 4. The west two are the A concourses, and the east two are the B concourses. They are served by the A and B security checkpoints respectively.

The A and B concourses are divided into low and high, based on the gate numbers. The low A and B gates are directly across from the the security checkpoints. The high A and B require a trip down a walkway.
  • Low A: Gates A1-A14
  • High A: Gates A15-A30
  • Low B: Gates B1-B14
  • High B: Gates B15-B28

General Rules for Gates
  • International flights (from Mexico and SJD) will arrive in the High B's area, as do other carrier international flights (BA from LHR) and depart ~B25
  • While international flights (from other than YVR/YYC/YEG/YYZ) park at the high B gates, pax will pass through customs underneath the concourse and must exit outside the B security checkpoint and re-clear security for further flights.
  • Flights from Mexico and Costa Rica will arrive at gates B23-B28 (Gate B22 is about to become an international arrival gate as well) and go down two levels to go through customs, et al, and will deposit outside security checkpoint B. Giving yourself an average of 45 min just to get from off the plane to the checkpoint is a good estimate. If your flight arrived at the same time as British Airways add another 30 min to that estimate.
  • Eagle operated flights will depart only from Gates B1, B3, B5, B7, B9, B15, B16, B17, B18, B19, B20, B21, B22, and sometimes B24.
  • Early and late night flights (first bank in the AM and red eyes to PHL, CLT, JFK, BOS, etc), usually leave from the low A concourse, gates 1-14 (more likely the end of that 10-14)
  • Note some gates are close to each other and announcements can be confusing due to their proximity.

Check-in
At PHX, you must be checked in:
  • At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States
  • At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to airports outside of the United States
American Airlines has check-in on the North side of the check-in level of T4 (across from Southwest).
  • AA Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds Elites can use the First Class check-in, located towards the middle of the check-in level (note: it is sometimes faster to use the non-elite kiosk area)
  • Non-elites have options of the main full-service ticketing line, or using one of the many kiosks towards the West end of the ticketing level (under the A concourse)
  • If you've done online check-in, there is a desk on the right side of the kiosks that can do bags only (however, I've found it sometimes easier to just use a regular kiosk)
  • International travel has its own check-in, toward the East side of the check-in level, marked by balloons
  • Group travel also has its own marked check-in at the far East side of the check-in level
  • There are also kiosks by every security check point (very convenient for checked baggage free travelers)

Security
Security wait times can vary widely both by time/day and by concourse. Generally, wait times seem to be longer at the B gates, but that is my personal experience.
AA has priority lines at both of the A and B security checkpoints in T4. Some days, it could be a wash or even longer, while others it can save a considerable amount of time. Personally, as a AA elite, I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes.
If non-elite, waits vary considerably. Ig is possible to wait for 45+ minutes.


Connection Times
Domestic Connections
  • MCT Domestic AA to AA is 0:25, AAdomestic to AA or AY is 0:25. A reasonable 45 minute scheduled connection time should be sufficient for domestic connections (ie: SFO-PHX-BOS or ORD-PHX-MRY)
  • STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
    ONLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    OFFLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    ** OR * ARE ALL
    AA-AA ID 1.30 FLT 6100 - 6779 - FLT 1 - 6099
    AA-AA ID .25 CANADA - ALL
    AA-AA ID 1.00
    AA-** ID 2.30

Connecting flight info monitors can be found at the start of each concourse, except for the High B concourse, then also at the following locations -
High A concourse: in front of gates A19, A23 & A24;
Low A concourse: in front of gates A3, A5, above the payphones between A8 & A10;
Low B concourse: in front of gates B3, B5, B10;
High B concourse: across from the Cinnabon, in front of gates B19 & B21.

It takes an average of 5 minutes to walk the length of a concourse, ie: from Gate A17 down to Gate A30, etc. If you are going from one concourse to another it takes 5 minutes if you just sit on the moving sidewalks and let the machine haul you (sometimes out for repair). So to get from Gate A30 to: Gate A13 would take about 15 min; to Gate B13 - 20 min and to Gate B28 - 30 min. Walking on the moving sidewalks will cut the time down by about 40%. Just remember - when on the moving sidewalks, in the USA we stand on the right, walk on the left and if you look down on the start platform of each one you will see images reminding you that NO strollers, wheelchairs or baggage trollies are allowed on the moving sidewalks.

Passenger Assistance Counters can be found next to Gates A19, A4, B4 and B19.


Baggage Storage
"Unfortunately, due to federal security restrictions imposed by the Transportation Security Administration, we do not offer any storage at the airport. We recommend that you check with the airline you are flying to see how early you can check in your luggage or other items.”


Transportation
Parking
PHX-Sky Harbor Airport operates long-term parking (East and West economy lots) as well as in-terminal parking. More info here
However, it is becoming more common to use off-airport parking. There are several companies including (but not limited to): PreFlight, FastTrack, and Parking Spot. Discounts abound, and it can be less for covered parking off-airport than non-covered in an economy lot.

Rental Cars
PHX Airport Rental Cars
There is a single airport rental car center located about 3 miles West of the airport. A single shuttle makes rounds from the terminals to the center.
Note: you may save some money (could be rather significant) if you rent from an off-airport location. With the Phoenix light rail, it may be possible to take the rail and/or have them pick you up. Alternatively, some hotels (especially resorts) have a car rental desk on-site.

Taxi
Taxi – a minimum $15 to leave the airport (others, help me out).

Public Transportation
Bus & Light Rail information and Schedules
PHX Sky Train connects the terminals, economy parking, the rental car center, and the light rail.


Food, Drinks & Lounges
Where to Eat
Inside Security
Low A Concourse has Modern Burger, Olive & Ivy and Panda Express; table service is at Blanco Tacos & Tequila.
High A Concourse has Delux, Humble Pie Pizza and Pei Wei; table service is at Four Peaks Brewery.
Low B Concourse has Burger King, Carvel, Pizza Hut, Quizzno's, and Starbucks; table service at The Roadhouse 66.
High B Concourse has Cinabonn, Kokopelli Deli, TCBY, Pretzel Yetzel, Pizza Hut; table service at the Home Turf. Outside Security If one has sufficient time between connecting flights or before a flight, the food selection, variety and quality is far superior outside of security than inside it. The area outside of security at gate level has undergone major renovations over the past few years.

Coffee
There is one Starbucks in PHX AA Terminal area, in High B. Peets is just off of the moving walkway as you approach the High A side.


Any other recommendations?
Lounges
Admirals Club
There are three lounges in PHX, one each in the low A and low B, and one in the high A area. Unless you have a flight from nearby, I would recommend NOT using the High A lounge; it is small and can get extremely crowded. From personal experience, the B lounge is generally not as busy as the others. (Note: check the LOUNGE DASHBOARD for information about lounge closures for refurbishment.)

Other Lounges
The Centurion Lounge is located across from Gate B21 and open 9AM to 7PM. Must be an American Express Platinum card holder to enter.
The Escape Lounge is also located across from Gate B21 and is open 8AM to 8PM. American Express Platinum card holders get free access, $40/day fee prebooked, $45/day walk-up fee.

Shower Facilities
"We do have very limited shower facilities. In Terminal 4 on the east end of Level 1 (baggage claim), the ladies and men's restrooms each have one shower stall. There is no fee for the use of these stalls. These are the only public showers in the Airport. All of our family restrooms have showers, but they are not intended for use by the general public. They are for people with special needs or passengers who are traveling with small children who have an unexpected need for shower facilities."

The "family restroom" with shower in T4 is located next to the men's room across from Gate A17; as mentioned, this restroom is not intended for general public use other than as noted.


Miscellaneous
Services
  • There is a Currency Exchange cart near Cinnabon, next to Gate B15, on the high B concourse. It has limited hours.
  • Shoe Shine Stand are located next to Gates A17 and B15.
  • The Duty Free store can be found next to Gate B17.

Other Airlines/Changing Terminals
Southwest, British Airways, AeroMexico all share T4 with American Airlines. It can be challenging getting from a high A gate to the new WN D gates behind security; there is a bridge from the high B area that connects with C (Southwest's area).
Other airlines/terminals:
Terminal 2: United (with a United Club) and others are in the 'old' terminal (there is no longer a T1).
T2 info
Terminal 3: T3 info
Getting between the terminals can be a chore. You must first exit security, then take the Sky Train between Terminals 3 and 4. There is a walkway between Terminals 2 and 3. Just follow the signs.

Wireless Internet
"Free Wi-Fi is provided in all terminals on both sides of security, in retail and restaurant areas and near the gates. Laptops or other devices configured to operate in a wireless mode will automatically connect to the Internet when powered up near the shops and gates."


Layover Q&A
Do I have time to go into town?If your layover is more than three hours (and I’m sure this is debatable), you may have time for a quick trip into the city.

What to do in town? How do I get there?
Downtown Tempe/Mill Ave

See: US Airways HQ (company store open to public), Tempe Town Lake (boat rentals, fishing, walk/run paths), 'A' Mountain (an easy climb), as well as a multitude of restaurants, bars, shops....oh and don't forget ASU, including Sun Devil Stadium
Eat: House of Tricks, Culinary Dropout
Go: Easy via PHX Sky Train to light rail, rail to either Mill Ave or Stadium stops. Rail cost is currently $2.00 each way/$4.00 for All-Day pass.

Downtown Phoenix

See: The Arizona Center, Chase Field (where the Diamondbacks play, but most locals still call it, "BOB"), Talking Stick Resort Arena (where the Phoenix Suns play, but most locals still call it, "AWA" or, "America West Arena")
Eat: Pizzaria Bianco (the 'best' pizza in the USA), Hard Rock Cafe, Alice Cooperstown, Arrogant Butcher, Durant's
Go: Although it is possible to take the rail, the easiest way is cab. Bus also goes, depending on day of week/time of day.

Old Town Scottsdale

See: Fashion Square Mall, art galleries, restaurants, shops
Go: Easiest by cab. Possible by bus (with connection).

Phoenix Zoo/Botanical Gardens

Possible via PHX Sky Train to rail (stop Priest/Washington) to bus or about a mile walk from rail. Easiest via cab.

Biltmore Shopping Center

Outdoor shopping mall, many shops and restaurants. Possible via bus (with connection), easiest by cab.

Is the Phoenix area safe?
In a word, yes. If you are going during daylight hours and are headed to any of the tourist locations you’ll be fine. Areas such as South Phoenix “may” be risky.

If you are going at night, the same areas that are safe during the day should be okay at night.

Can I get from PHX to Tucson? How long will it take and how expensive will it be?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to Tucson is roughly 2 hours. Although you will be traveling on a heavily used section of I-10, traffic usually moves. That said, if there is an accident, chaos and scrambling for any alternate (of which there are few) will happen. Rush hour will also impact this drive. The two cities seem to be growing closer and closer together. There is a rest stop about 15 miles past the Phoenix area. Casa Grande and Eloy also make good pit stops along the route.
{anyone have info on public transit}

Can I get from PHX to Sedona/Flagstaff/the Grand Canyon? How long will it take?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to points north is an extremely scenic drive. The I-17 has some nice climbs/downhills and it should be about 1-1/2 hour to Camp Verde (Verde Valley), a great place to stop. From there--
Flagstaff, another hour (about 2-1/2 to 3 hours total).
Sedona, around 30-45 minutes (the AZ-179 has been under construction for years it seems), about 2 to 2-1/2 hours total
Grand Canyon--you have 2 choices, go through Flagstaff or take the I-40 West and through Williams. Nothing against Williams, but I find the Flagstaff route nicer (and more options for stopping). Plan for 4-5 hours from PHX to the South Entrance, or 5-6 hours to the East Entrance (a bit further but worth the effort during busy periods).
{anyone have info on public transit}

Can I get from PHX to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego? What are my options?
While it certainly is possible to drive between PHX and these areas (many in the PHX area do it daily), once outside the PHX area, drives can be long, through vast stretches of nothingness. Flights from PHX to these areas are usually about 1 hour (-v- 5+ hours driving) and rather reasonable in price. For trips to Vegas, Hoover Dam crossing can add 30+ minutes to the drive.

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Old Jan 12, 2016, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by simonmac
I am travelling LHR-PHX-SAN in March on BA289. Arriving PHX at 18:20 and leaving for SAN on BA6566(AA flight) at 20:15. I'm travelling in First (for the first time ever so very excited and spending plenty of time on those forums too! ), will have checked in luggage and will need to do normal US Immigration line.

I've not done this sort of trip before and have heard horror stories of clearing customs and immigration, as well as the need to go outside and check back in and re-do security. So the basic questions are;
- Is the 1:55hrs enough time for the connection
- Once through customs, do I need to check in as new, or is there a re-check/transfer bag type place to check them in.
- Any tips on where I'll need to go or just the general process on connecting international to domestic in the US or specifically through Phoenix (Both flights are T4)
Welcome to FlyerTalk, simonmac!

I've done the BA nonstop in F to PHX many times. I love it. You should be just fine with 1:55 to connect on AA to SAN.

Upon arrival, flight attendants almost always hold back Club World and Economy passengers until the front of the plane has exited, which will put you into the customs hall at the front of the line.

Baggage comes off the BA flight quickly, as it is often the only international arrival in the baggage and customs area at that time.

After you walk out of customs there is a BA counter where you can drop your bag for BA to transfer it over to American for your connection. Given that your AA flight is listed as a BA codeshare, I trust these flights are all on one ticket. If not, be sure to show the agent at LHR your connecting boarding pass so your bag can be checked through to SAN.

You then exit the arrivals area and walk down a long hall to an elevator that takes you up to the main part of Terminal 4. You turn right to go through security again and into the AA concourses.

Depending upon the day, you could be through the whole process in 30 minutes. It's nearly as simple as an international connection gets. Good luck!
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Old Jan 12, 2016, 2:42 pm
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Huge thanks AZ Travels the World! That's perfect and sets my mind at rest. It is all one ticket assume that the bags get put through all the way to SAN.

Such a helpful and friendly reply. Thank you^
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 5:32 am
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Hello!

I will be arriving at 23:32 from Chicago and will be leaving at 09:55 to Puerto Vallarta the very next day. I was planning on just spending the "lay-over" at the airport, and not going landside at all.

But reading up on things it seems that all lounges are closed between 23:00 and 05:30, is this correct?
If so, do you have any other suggestions on what to do/where to be for the ~9 hours I have to kill.
Is my only option going landside and into the city (or nearby the airport)?
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 6:52 am
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Is my only option going landside and into the city (or nearby the airport)?
Pretty much. US hubs aren't like Asian/European hubs. Things don't run 24 hours a day.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by sexten
Hello!

I will be arriving at 23:32 from Chicago and will be leaving at 09:55 to Puerto Vallarta the very next day. I was planning on just spending the "lay-over" at the airport, and not going landside at all.

But reading up on things it seems that all lounges are closed between 23:00 and 05:30, is this correct?
If so, do you have any other suggestions on what to do/where to be for the ~9 hours I have to kill.
Is my only option going landside and into the city (or nearby the airport)?
While I guess you could stay inside security at T4, I can't think of anything that would be open during the night.
There's complaints here how there isn't much/anything open for the last bank of redeye flights from PHX.
I've flown out both at 1am and 5am, and I can say that there really isn't that much happening at the airport at either time, and I can't imagine much happening between those.

Will you have much carry-on luggage?

You could definitely take the airport People Mover over to 44th St/Washington. From there you can take the light rail to either downtown Phoenix or downtown Tempe. However, depending on the day of week, most things in either will start to close up around 2am.

There's some hotels right near the People Mover station at 44th St/Washington. A Crown Plaza right there, aloft, and Doubletree Suites a block away (with a Hampton Inn across from that). You might want to check prices/point redemptions and see if something would work for you.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by arlflyer
Pretty much. US hubs aren't like Asian/European hubs. Things don't run 24 hours a day.
Ok, so basically my only option is leaving the airport?
Are there any pay-by-the-hour hotels nearby or something similar?


EDIT: aztimm replied just before this post. Thank you, aztimm
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by sexten
Are there any pay-by-the-hour hotels nearby or something similar?
Well there is the Castle Boutique and a flutter of similar places not far away from the 44th St/Washington station, if that's how you'd like to spend the night
(and I think they're open through the night)
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Originally Posted by aztimm
Well there is the Castle Boutique and a flutter of similar places not far away from the 44th St/Washington station, if that's how you'd like to spend the night
(and I think they're open through the night)
I'm not sure what a Castle Boutique is, but from googlin it seems like an adult sex store? Not exactly what I meant

I was thinking of hotels where you can pay for i.e. 6 hours instead of the full 24 hours
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by simonmac
Huge thanks AZ Travels the World! That's perfect and sets my mind at rest. It is all one ticket assume that the bags get put through all the way to SAN.

Such a helpful and friendly reply. Thank you^
Is your BA flight through PHX an award or otherwise flexible? Any schedule changes or anything like that? I mention it because BA now flies directly to SAN, and they recently put planes with an F cabin on that route.

2 hours to connect at PHX is doable regardless, but I'm just throwing the direct option out in case you were unaware and had some kind of ticket flexibility to get it.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by sexten
Hello!

I will be arriving at 23:32 from Chicago and will be leaving at 09:55 to Puerto Vallarta the very next day. I was planning on just spending the "lay-over" at the airport, and not going landside at all.
Depending on when you're there, airport hotels are often quite affordable. As the lounges at PHX do not have showers, it's probably in your best interest to find a decent and cheap one for a shower and a short slleep.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by CMK10
Depending on when you're there, airport hotels are often quite affordable. As the lounges at PHX do not have showers, it's probably in your best interest to find a decent and cheap one for a shower and a short slleep.
This seems to be the only solution, yes. Thank you guys!
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Originally Posted by PWMTrav
Is your BA flight through PHX an award or otherwise flexible? Any schedule changes or anything like that? I mention it because BA now flies directly to SAN, and they recently put planes with an F cabin on that route.

2 hours to connect at PHX is doable regardless, but I'm just throwing the direct option out in case you were unaware and had some kind of ticket flexibility to get it.
Thanks for the thought. It Is a fully paid flight by work, and normally not allowed F, but as it was way cheaper than the CW direct to SAN on the company travel site I went with this. May be the only chance I ever get to experience F so happy not to change!
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by simonmac
Thanks for the thought. It Is a fully paid flight by work, and normally not allowed F, but as it was way cheaper than the CW direct to SAN on the company travel site I went with this. May be the only chance I ever get to experience F so happy not to change!
OK, that makes sense. Good find on that fare. Enjoy. I've still yet to fly international F!
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
As the lounges at PHX do not have showers
At a hub?! Are you sure? That doesn't seem right.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by SJC AA
At a hub?! Are you sure? That doesn't seem right.
It's a pmUS hub. None of the pmUS hubs have showers.
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