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PHX Links
Official Website of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
PHX Sky Harbor: Frequently Asked Questions pages(Dining, shops, parking, art, museum)
Link to archived posts 2009-2013.This is to give travelers an idea how to navigate through PHX (locals call it "Sky Harbor").

NOTE: There are an increasing number of flights arriving at Phoenix/Mesa Gateway airport (the former Williams Air Force Base). This is NOT PHX/Sky Harbor. Typically Allegiant and charter flights will arrive/depart from Gateway. Official Website of Phoenix-Mesa/Gateway Airport.

PHX Terminal 4 - AA uses the four concourses shown as "A" and "B"
The terminal map website is PHX T4 Map It includes terminal maps plus shops and restaurants by terminal.


AA in PHX
AA operates flights out of Terminal 4 (also called the Barry Goldwater Terminal), concourses A and B (basically the North side of T4). There are four concourses on the north side of terminal 4. The west two are the A concourses, and the east two are the B concourses. They are served by the A and B security checkpoints respectively.

The A and B concourses are divided into low and high, based on the gate numbers. The low A and B gates are directly across from the the security checkpoints. The high A and B require a trip down a walkway.
  • Low A: Gates A1-A14
  • High A: Gates A15-A30
  • Low B: Gates B1-B14
  • High B: Gates B15-B28

General Rules for Gates
  • International flights (from Mexico and SJD) will arrive in the High B's area, as do other carrier international flights (BA from LHR) and depart ~B25
  • While international flights (from other than YVR/YYC/YEG/YYZ) park at the high B gates, pax will pass through customs underneath the concourse and must exit outside the B security checkpoint and re-clear security for further flights.
  • Flights from Mexico and Costa Rica will arrive at gates B23-B28 (Gate B22 is about to become an international arrival gate as well) and go down two levels to go through customs, et al, and will deposit outside security checkpoint B. Giving yourself an average of 45 min just to get from off the plane to the checkpoint is a good estimate. If your flight arrived at the same time as British Airways add another 30 min to that estimate.
  • Eagle operated flights will depart only from Gates B1, B3, B5, B7, B9, B15, B16, B17, B18, B19, B20, B21, B22, and sometimes B24.
  • Early and late night flights (first bank in the AM and red eyes to PHL, CLT, JFK, BOS, etc), usually leave from the low A concourse, gates 1-14 (more likely the end of that 10-14)
  • Note some gates are close to each other and announcements can be confusing due to their proximity.

Check-in
At PHX, you must be checked in:
  • At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States
  • At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to airports outside of the United States
American Airlines has check-in on the North side of the check-in level of T4 (across from Southwest).
  • AA Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds Elites can use the First Class check-in, located towards the middle of the check-in level (note: it is sometimes faster to use the non-elite kiosk area)
  • Non-elites have options of the main full-service ticketing line, or using one of the many kiosks towards the West end of the ticketing level (under the A concourse)
  • If you've done online check-in, there is a desk on the right side of the kiosks that can do bags only (however, I've found it sometimes easier to just use a regular kiosk)
  • International travel has its own check-in, toward the East side of the check-in level, marked by balloons
  • Group travel also has its own marked check-in at the far East side of the check-in level
  • There are also kiosks by every security check point (very convenient for checked baggage free travelers)

Security
Security wait times can vary widely both by time/day and by concourse. Generally, wait times seem to be longer at the B gates, but that is my personal experience.
AA has priority lines at both of the A and B security checkpoints in T4. Some days, it could be a wash or even longer, while others it can save a considerable amount of time. Personally, as a AA elite, I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes.
If non-elite, waits vary considerably. Ig is possible to wait for 45+ minutes.


Connection Times
Domestic Connections
  • MCT Domestic AA to AA is 0:25, AAdomestic to AA or AY is 0:25. A reasonable 45 minute scheduled connection time should be sufficient for domestic connections (ie: SFO-PHX-BOS or ORD-PHX-MRY)
  • STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
    ONLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    OFFLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    ** OR * ARE ALL
    AA-AA ID 1.30 FLT 6100 - 6779 - FLT 1 - 6099
    AA-AA ID .25 CANADA - ALL
    AA-AA ID 1.00
    AA-** ID 2.30

Connecting flight info monitors can be found at the start of each concourse, except for the High B concourse, then also at the following locations -
High A concourse: in front of gates A19, A23 & A24;
Low A concourse: in front of gates A3, A5, above the payphones between A8 & A10;
Low B concourse: in front of gates B3, B5, B10;
High B concourse: across from the Cinnabon, in front of gates B19 & B21.

It takes an average of 5 minutes to walk the length of a concourse, ie: from Gate A17 down to Gate A30, etc. If you are going from one concourse to another it takes 5 minutes if you just sit on the moving sidewalks and let the machine haul you (sometimes out for repair). So to get from Gate A30 to: Gate A13 would take about 15 min; to Gate B13 - 20 min and to Gate B28 - 30 min. Walking on the moving sidewalks will cut the time down by about 40%. Just remember - when on the moving sidewalks, in the USA we stand on the right, walk on the left and if you look down on the start platform of each one you will see images reminding you that NO strollers, wheelchairs or baggage trollies are allowed on the moving sidewalks.

Passenger Assistance Counters can be found next to Gates A19, A4, B4 and B19.


Baggage Storage
"Unfortunately, due to federal security restrictions imposed by the Transportation Security Administration, we do not offer any storage at the airport. We recommend that you check with the airline you are flying to see how early you can check in your luggage or other items.”


Transportation
Parking
PHX-Sky Harbor Airport operates long-term parking (East and West economy lots) as well as in-terminal parking. More info here
However, it is becoming more common to use off-airport parking. There are several companies including (but not limited to): PreFlight, FastTrack, and Parking Spot. Discounts abound, and it can be less for covered parking off-airport than non-covered in an economy lot.

Rental Cars
PHX Airport Rental Cars
There is a single airport rental car center located about 3 miles West of the airport. A single shuttle makes rounds from the terminals to the center.
Note: you may save some money (could be rather significant) if you rent from an off-airport location. With the Phoenix light rail, it may be possible to take the rail and/or have them pick you up. Alternatively, some hotels (especially resorts) have a car rental desk on-site.

Taxi
Taxi – a minimum $15 to leave the airport (others, help me out).

Public Transportation
Bus & Light Rail information and Schedules
PHX Sky Train connects the terminals, economy parking, the rental car center, and the light rail.


Food, Drinks & Lounges
Where to Eat
Inside Security
Low A Concourse has Modern Burger, Olive & Ivy and Panda Express; table service is at Blanco Tacos & Tequila.
High A Concourse has Delux, Humble Pie Pizza and Pei Wei; table service is at Four Peaks Brewery.
Low B Concourse has Burger King, Carvel, Pizza Hut, Quizzno's, and Starbucks; table service at The Roadhouse 66.
High B Concourse has Cinabonn, Kokopelli Deli, TCBY, Pretzel Yetzel, Pizza Hut; table service at the Home Turf. Outside Security If one has sufficient time between connecting flights or before a flight, the food selection, variety and quality is far superior outside of security than inside it. The area outside of security at gate level has undergone major renovations over the past few years.

Coffee
There is one Starbucks in PHX AA Terminal area, in High B. Peets is just off of the moving walkway as you approach the High A side.


Any other recommendations?
Lounges
Admirals Club
There are three lounges in PHX, one each in the low A and low B, and one in the high A area. Unless you have a flight from nearby, I would recommend NOT using the High A lounge; it is small and can get extremely crowded. From personal experience, the B lounge is generally not as busy as the others. (Note: check the LOUNGE DASHBOARD for information about lounge closures for refurbishment.)

Other Lounges
The Centurion Lounge is located across from Gate B21 and open 9AM to 7PM. Must be an American Express Platinum card holder to enter.
The Escape Lounge is also located across from Gate B21 and is open 8AM to 8PM. American Express Platinum card holders get free access, $40/day fee prebooked, $45/day walk-up fee.

Shower Facilities
"We do have very limited shower facilities. In Terminal 4 on the east end of Level 1 (baggage claim), the ladies and men's restrooms each have one shower stall. There is no fee for the use of these stalls. These are the only public showers in the Airport. All of our family restrooms have showers, but they are not intended for use by the general public. They are for people with special needs or passengers who are traveling with small children who have an unexpected need for shower facilities."

The "family restroom" with shower in T4 is located next to the men's room across from Gate A17; as mentioned, this restroom is not intended for general public use other than as noted.


Miscellaneous
Services
  • There is a Currency Exchange cart near Cinnabon, next to Gate B15, on the high B concourse. It has limited hours.
  • Shoe Shine Stand are located next to Gates A17 and B15.
  • The Duty Free store can be found next to Gate B17.

Other Airlines/Changing Terminals
Southwest, British Airways, AeroMexico all share T4 with American Airlines. It can be challenging getting from a high A gate to the new WN D gates behind security; there is a bridge from the high B area that connects with C (Southwest's area).
Other airlines/terminals:
Terminal 2: United (with a United Club) and others are in the 'old' terminal (there is no longer a T1).
T2 info
Terminal 3: T3 info
Getting between the terminals can be a chore. You must first exit security, then take the Sky Train between Terminals 3 and 4. There is a walkway between Terminals 2 and 3. Just follow the signs.

Wireless Internet
"Free Wi-Fi is provided in all terminals on both sides of security, in retail and restaurant areas and near the gates. Laptops or other devices configured to operate in a wireless mode will automatically connect to the Internet when powered up near the shops and gates."


Layover Q&A
Do I have time to go into town?If your layover is more than three hours (and I’m sure this is debatable), you may have time for a quick trip into the city.

What to do in town? How do I get there?
Downtown Tempe/Mill Ave

See: US Airways HQ (company store open to public), Tempe Town Lake (boat rentals, fishing, walk/run paths), 'A' Mountain (an easy climb), as well as a multitude of restaurants, bars, shops....oh and don't forget ASU, including Sun Devil Stadium
Eat: House of Tricks, Culinary Dropout
Go: Easy via PHX Sky Train to light rail, rail to either Mill Ave or Stadium stops. Rail cost is currently $2.00 each way/$4.00 for All-Day pass.

Downtown Phoenix

See: The Arizona Center, Chase Field (where the Diamondbacks play, but most locals still call it, "BOB"), Talking Stick Resort Arena (where the Phoenix Suns play, but most locals still call it, "AWA" or, "America West Arena")
Eat: Pizzaria Bianco (the 'best' pizza in the USA), Hard Rock Cafe, Alice Cooperstown, Arrogant Butcher, Durant's
Go: Although it is possible to take the rail, the easiest way is cab. Bus also goes, depending on day of week/time of day.

Old Town Scottsdale

See: Fashion Square Mall, art galleries, restaurants, shops
Go: Easiest by cab. Possible by bus (with connection).

Phoenix Zoo/Botanical Gardens

Possible via PHX Sky Train to rail (stop Priest/Washington) to bus or about a mile walk from rail. Easiest via cab.

Biltmore Shopping Center

Outdoor shopping mall, many shops and restaurants. Possible via bus (with connection), easiest by cab.

Is the Phoenix area safe?
In a word, yes. If you are going during daylight hours and are headed to any of the tourist locations you’ll be fine. Areas such as South Phoenix “may” be risky.

If you are going at night, the same areas that are safe during the day should be okay at night.

Can I get from PHX to Tucson? How long will it take and how expensive will it be?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to Tucson is roughly 2 hours. Although you will be traveling on a heavily used section of I-10, traffic usually moves. That said, if there is an accident, chaos and scrambling for any alternate (of which there are few) will happen. Rush hour will also impact this drive. The two cities seem to be growing closer and closer together. There is a rest stop about 15 miles past the Phoenix area. Casa Grande and Eloy also make good pit stops along the route.
{anyone have info on public transit}

Can I get from PHX to Sedona/Flagstaff/the Grand Canyon? How long will it take?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to points north is an extremely scenic drive. The I-17 has some nice climbs/downhills and it should be about 1-1/2 hour to Camp Verde (Verde Valley), a great place to stop. From there--
Flagstaff, another hour (about 2-1/2 to 3 hours total).
Sedona, around 30-45 minutes (the AZ-179 has been under construction for years it seems), about 2 to 2-1/2 hours total
Grand Canyon--you have 2 choices, go through Flagstaff or take the I-40 West and through Williams. Nothing against Williams, but I find the Flagstaff route nicer (and more options for stopping). Plan for 4-5 hours from PHX to the South Entrance, or 5-6 hours to the East Entrance (a bit further but worth the effort during busy periods).
{anyone have info on public transit}

Can I get from PHX to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego? What are my options?
While it certainly is possible to drive between PHX and these areas (many in the PHX area do it daily), once outside the PHX area, drives can be long, through vast stretches of nothingness. Flights from PHX to these areas are usually about 1 hour (-v- 5+ hours driving) and rather reasonable in price. For trips to Vegas, Hoover Dam crossing can add 30+ minutes to the drive.

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Old Oct 21, 2015, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by BayAArea
Have been through PHX a few times since the merger, but didn't know if there is any preferred gates for the inbounds from the East Coast or these two flights in particular that I can ballpark, or is it a total crap shoot? Still surprised that this is an option.
Without knowing where you're coming from and going to, the time of day, when the next flights are (from and to), it is tough to give any advice...other than don't do it (which I wouldn't).

I once had a 45 min connection here at PHX while doing a mileage run. The incoming plane (from LAS) had to wait ~10 min for a gate. It was extremely nerve-wracking waiting, so close yet you can't just hop off the plane while it is on the tarmac and walk to your next. And it was a bit of a hike to the next gate. I ended up making it, but it was all just a rush.

Depending on the day, they do usually have flights to the eastern cities close to each other. It is quite common to see flights to PHL, CLT, JFK, BOS, BWI, EWR, MCO, etc. all rather near each other.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by aztimm
Without knowing where you're coming from and going to, the time of day, when the next flights are (from and to), it is tough to give any advice...other than don't do it (which I wouldn't).

I once had a 45 min connection here at PHX while doing a mileage run. The incoming plane (from LAS) had to wait ~10 min for a gate. It was extremely nerve-wracking waiting, so close yet you can't just hop off the plane while it is on the tarmac and walk to your next. And it was a bit of a hike to the next gate. I ended up making it, but it was all just a rush.

Depending on the day, they do usually have flights to the eastern cities close to each other. It is quite common to see flights to PHL, CLT, JFK, BOS, BWI, EWR, MCO, etc. all rather near each other.
Its the early morning (630am) flight from JFK, lands at 10:19AM at PHX; connection is to OAK, leaves at 10:45AM

If I missed it, next flight is not until 230PM; although I would likely try to go standby on the SFO flight at 1120am if I had to rebook; I am indifferent between the 2.

Just surprised me that it is an allowable connection - you really only have 15 minutes to make the switch, assuming you arrive on time, with the T-10 cutoff on the departure.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by BayAArea
Just surprised me that it is an allowable connection - you really only have 15 minutes to make the switch, assuming you arrive on time, with the T-10 cutoff on the departure.
If your first flight was on-time or early and the connecting gate was beside it, you could easily make that connection.
However if you arrive at the end of the High A's and leave from the High B's (high B is unlikely, but possible; it is mostly express and BA), that walk alone could take 15 min, and that would be if all the moving walkways are working, and you don't have people just riding along in front of you.
I believe the flight from JFK relies on the PHX-JFK redeye the night prior. How does it look for on-time %?

Usually flights from the east come into a different area than flights to the west. We used to have some gate agents here who would give info on that, but I haven't seen them post for a while. A high A to low A connection (or vice versa) is very likely.

If the price is right and you're willing to roll the dice, I'd just go with it. If you are stuck with that next flight at 2:30pm, you'd have plenty of time for a trip to downtown Phoenix or Mill Ave for lunch. Perhaps we could even organize a FT do
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I noticed on the merged website that AA now refers to Phoenix Sky Harbor as "Phoenix / Scottsdale (PHX)" . Is this a marketing thing? Scottsdale has its own airport code SCF.
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Old Nov 1, 2015, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by Tanic
I noticed on the merged website that AA now refers to Phoenix Sky Harbor as "Phoenix / Scottsdale (PHX)" . Is this a marketing thing? Scottsdale has its own airport code SCF.
The airport is still called, "Phoenix Sky Harbor."
https://skyharbor.com/

No mention of Scottsdale on the official website.


Yes, Scottsdale does have SCF. Along with several regional airports around metro Phoenix, there is also commercial service on G4 from AZA.
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Old Nov 9, 2015, 9:24 am
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Recent experiences with tight connections at PHX?

I'm looking at routings SJC-DCA and was surprised to see a 33 minute connection in PHX on the flight that would get me home earliest. I know this is a legal connection, but I used to fly through PHX a reasonable amount on US, and though it was sometimes a very quick connection when your flights show up a few gates apart in the same pier, my recollection was that more often than not I found myself running from one pier to another, even with layovers >45 minutes. If I chance it and miss the connection, the next routing from PHX wouldn't get me home until 3 hours later. I'm trying to decide whether to risk it, or take a different routing that gets in to DCA 1.5 hours later than the PHX-DCA flight, but has a more leisurely 1 hour stop in DFW. Any ideas if connections like this in PHX are based on the flights arriving/departing from close proximity in the terminal, or if it would be luck of the draw?
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Old Nov 9, 2015, 9:33 am
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I'd take it if you are confident that you can make it, and accept that you might get bumped. Also I'd say luggage is at risk, if you are checking any.

Personally, I'd do the DFW stop - less stress, less risk, and DFW is a nicer airport to stop at. Since you have to stop either way, why not pick the better one?
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Old Nov 9, 2015, 10:41 am
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If the incoming flight is ontime, you will make this without any problems. If it is late, you are, of course SOL.

AA will, of course, rebook you on the next available frequency. But, you should understand that the PHX-DCA flight is usually jammed. Thus, if there is space on the next flight, it may be a lousy one. The aircraft on that route are the old HP birds and they are particularly uncomfortable.
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Old Nov 9, 2015, 10:50 am
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I had a quick connection about a month ago. I can't run, and our flight was late. Two things saved me, the out going flight had a mechanical delay (but the doors closed right after all the late SMF bound pax boarded), and I caught a wheel chair person that ran, yes she ran, all the way to the departing gate. She ran faster than the other pax, even pushing me. The next flight would have been the next morning.

I'll never do a short connection through Phoenix again. (My connection in CLT was also short, and also nerve wracking, but the first flight wasn't late, so I didn't need to run. I was the last on on the plane, though.)
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I generally discard any domestic connection options that are less than 25 minutes greater than the MCT. ITA has an option to filter those out, and Google Flights lists the connection time along with the price.
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Old Nov 9, 2015, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
If the incoming flight is ontime, you will make this without any problems. If it is late, you are, of course SOL.
Definitely not safe, even if incoming is on time.

As noted, it is quite a distance from the High A to High B pier. Even if your incoming is on time, the longest walk could take 15 min, depending how mobile one is. There's been work on the moving walkways lately, if one (or more) isn't functioning, you get stuck behind a slow group, well it is easy to miss.
Boarding starts 30 min prior, which means it would start as incoming lands. Doors close 10 min prior to schedule.

Of course throw in any sort of delay at origin, in air, on ground (there are sometimes delays getting a gate), then there's no way you'd make it.

Here's a great thread to check for recent experience (last week):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ul-advice.html
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Old Nov 10, 2015, 7:58 am
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Thanks all- I guess I'll go with the DFW stop and just plan to get home a little later, rather than take the chance on the tight connection, and potentially be home quite a bit later (especially given the potential of successive flights being full). I appreciate the comments!
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Old Nov 10, 2015, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by whimsey21
I'm looking at routings SJC-DCA and was surprised to see a 33 minute connection in PHX on the flight that would get me home earliest. I know this is a legal connection, but I used to fly through PHX a reasonable amount on US, and though it was sometimes a very quick connection when your flights show up a few gates apart in the same pier, my recollection was that more often than not I found myself running from one pier to another, even with layovers >45 minutes. If I chance it and miss the connection, the next routing from PHX wouldn't get me home until 3 hours later. I'm trying to decide whether to risk it, or take a different routing that gets in to DCA 1.5 hours later than the PHX-DCA flight, but has a more leisurely 1 hour stop in DFW. Any ideas if connections like this in PHX are based on the flights arriving/departing from close proximity in the terminal, or if it would be luck of the draw?
Every flight I have from SJC thru PHX is a 30-45 minute connection.

Assuming on time arrival 30 minutes is fine for PAX and baggage. Even from the furthest gate to the furthest gate. Just don't stop at Starbucks and be prepared to mow a few tourists down in the process.

I don't know why these connections are so short but there are a ton of them.
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Originally Posted by sdix
Every flight I have from SJC thru PHX is a 30-45 minute connection.

Assuming on time arrival 30 minutes is fine for PAX and baggage. Even from the furthest gate to the furthest gate. Just don't stop at Starbucks and be prepared to mow a few tourists down in the process.

I don't know why these connections are so short but there are a ton of them.
That's interesting-- given that, I wonder why they don't just shift the SJC-PHX flight 10 or 15 minutes earlier, and give people a little more cushion on their connection.
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Originally Posted by Often1
But, you should understand that the PHX-DCA flight is usually jammed. Thus, if there is space on the next flight, it may be a lousy one. The aircraft on that route are the old HP birds and they are particularly uncomfortable.

Why is this flight route jammed? And why do they us old equipment?
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