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ikwia Dec 14, 2022 4:54 am


Originally Posted by dc10forlife (Post 34832366)
1099 employees

What do you mean by this? The US tax code does not recognize such an arrangement AFAIK.

perkerkeem Dec 14, 2022 7:08 am


Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach (Post 34832030)
I agree. Proceed with caution. I certainly do not want to endanger my Aadvantage account by adding bogus employees to BE.

based on your post it sounds like you told them you won’t be providing the information they requested and accept having your BE account frozen - but it also sounds like there wasn’t any blowback to your/your employees AA account?

Edit: just surprised you mentioned endangering the AA account - if you refuse to provide the info and they were cool with that and just closed BE, seems like the AA account should be fine in any case?

dc10forlife Dec 14, 2022 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by ikwia (Post 34833061)
What do you mean by this? The US tax code does not recognize such an arrangement AFAIK.

Ooops I mean w-2 employees.

worldiswide Dec 14, 2022 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by dc10forlife (Post 34832366)
Have the rules gotten more strict with the change to the minimum number of employees/amount spent on travel? If so, then why would AA automatically still put in a BE number in a reservation and automatically credit points for all travelers on the same reservation?

Before accepting a BE number on a reservation, shouldn't AA instead require a certification that the reservation is for business travel and only includes w-2 employees or statutory employees? Or require all employees to be registered first, and then limit credit to only those employees? Or require a BE number for each passenger?

Thanks for the warning, but there seems to be a lot better ways to enforce this than auditing accounts and clawing back points that AA automatically credited in the first place. As it stands now, if I take a non-employee on a business trip with me, then I would have to book separate reservations and then re-link them for status benefits (which necessitates a call and a phone agent's time). Are the BE points that costly for them?

The BE number is in each FF account. The Business is defined in the Business Extra system . You can certainly have one reservation with persons that have a BE number in their FF and persons that do not have one

dc10forlife Dec 14, 2022 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by worldiswide (Post 34835164)
The BE number is in each FF account. The Business is defined in the Business Extra system . You can certainly have one reservation with persons that have a BE number in their FF and persons that do not have one

While that is true, the Business Extra number is then automatically populated in a multi-person reservation based on the FF who is initiating a booking. So if I book a flight and bring a non-employee along, I can't tell AA just to give me BE credit only for myself and not for my guest. Its all or nothing.

worldiswide Dec 15, 2022 10:21 am

So if passenger one has a BE number in it, and you are booking on aa.com for more than one passenger, the BE number auto populates to all passengers?. Isnt it a separate field for each passenger on the reservation and cant it be blanked out for the non employees in the reservation at time of booking?

dc10forlife Dec 15, 2022 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by worldiswide (Post 34836715)
So if passenger one has a BE number in it, and you are booking on aa.com for more than one passenger, the BE number auto populates to all passengers?. Isnt it a separate field for each passenger on the reservation and cant it be blanked out for the non employees in the reservation at time of booking?

The BE number applies for the entire reservation and all passenger. There is not a separate field for each passenger.

That is my point. Its all or nothing. So if AA doesn't want non-employees to count towards your BE points earning on a single reservation, its not possible to do so. You would have to book separate reservations.

enfuego Dec 17, 2022 6:33 pm

Has anyone heard anything about how the elimination of MilesSAAver and AANytime awards impacts BE redemptions? I'm guessing that if the primary program moves to dynamic pricing, then BusinessExtra will follow. Seemingly no discussion around this.

mangoMan Dec 18, 2022 10:09 am


Originally Posted by mangoMan (Post 34814978)
Just got an email stating points set to expire Dec 31 2022 are extended to Feb 28 2023. However, doesn't the "$5000 spend for redeeming points" rule kick in on Jan 1st? If so, it seems like it may still be wise to redeem soon to expire points before the end of the year.

Hmm...I was just checking our BE account and noticed that it still states we will have points expiring Dec 31 2022. I hope this isn't accurate as I planned to wait until late Feb to redeem, given the expiration extension. There is also now a progress indicator showing how far one has come to meeting the $5K spend requirement; apparently we already met it so there should be no issue for us redeeming points in 2023.

LovePrunes Dec 18, 2022 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by enfuego (Post 34843121)
Has anyone heard anything about how the elimination of MilesSAAver and AANytime awards impacts BE redemptions? I'm guessing that if the primary program moves to dynamic pricing, then BusinessExtra will follow. Seemingly no discussion around this.

no details available yet on the "simplified awards chart" and "fully dynamic awards" so it's too early to tell. We dont even know if MilesAAver and AAnytime terms are going/staying etc.

chrisny2 Dec 19, 2022 10:15 pm

Are BusinessExtra award flights in coach eligible for complimentary upgrades for Executive Platinum members, just like AAdvantage award flights?

JJeffrey Dec 20, 2022 5:19 am


Originally Posted by chrisny2 (Post 34848867)
Are BusinessExtra award flights in coach eligible for complimentary upgrades for Executive Platinum members, just like AAdvantage award flights?

Yep. The mechanics of the award work exactly the same as an award booked with AA miles, only you're just paying with BE points.

lrbenko Dec 30, 2022 8:54 am


Originally Posted by mangoMan (Post 34844285)
Hmm...I was just checking our BE account and noticed that it still states we will have points expiring Dec 31 2022. I hope this isn't accurate as I planned to wait until late Feb to redeem, given the expiration extension. There is also now a progress indicator showing how far one has come to meeting the $5K spend requirement; apparently we already met it so there should be no issue for us redeeming points in 2023.

Any update on this? My account still shows expiration on Dec 31 2022 as well.

robinsondg Dec 30, 2022 9:10 am

Is a BXP1 that is waitlisted prioritized over a PPRO upgrade waitlist?

Chances of these clearing?

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SkyTeam777 Dec 30, 2022 9:28 am


Originally Posted by bk3day (Post 34822509)
Running out time before my current BX6B award expires and over the past year have never seen ANY PlanAhead AA business award space to/from any Europe airport.

While I have always had beyond low expectations I'm hoping someone can provide some guidance on finding business award space from NYC (or anywhere) to anywhere in Europe?

Alternatively, can anyone provide a suggestion on what can be done with this useless award before EOY as I won't qualify for redemptions in 2023 due to not meeting the new 5K spend rule?

In addition I have to burn the 8,198 points currently in my account before EOY and am trying to figure a flight award that can actually be booked?

TIA

Same. I seem to recall before Covid, to find availability, I had to start in Europe and return to USA and back to Europe to find space. Once I did, then I could originate in USA and reverse it, but the search function never worked in the opposite direction. That trick doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Does anyone know another way to find space? It can't be that there is zero space on every TATL route for PlanAhead in the coming months! But, I guess that's true. Anyone know another way to look for space? If it's U space, can we search for it to open up on Expert Flyer?


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