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lunchtime Sep 23, 2022 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by Fraser (Post 34621620)
I mean, I did figure out I was doing it wrong :D I just didn't realise you could get different C availability by searching a connecting itinerary versus segment by segment, especially when EF shows the availability on each flight if you search that connecting itinerary.

I should therefore assume that in this case it's the same as C = 0 on any other flight. I see some other options out there where I can get FC reasonably so I'll just do that and lose the vouchers...

you can do a refund on the vouchers and get your points back. Just visit the business extra site it’s clear on there how to return them

Carolina2Cali Sep 24, 2022 6:14 pm

I have 3 BXP1's expiring around Thanksgiving, as well as two lounge passes. I am sure I can use one or two of them, but not 3. I looked in the Wiki but I am missing something or stupid today, can anyone remind me if I can transfer either of these passes (lounge or upgrade) to a coworker or friend/family? I am indeed the business manager for the company for the travel account, but some of these passes were redeemed using the promotion last year where they cost less points than usual.

Centurion Sep 24, 2022 6:16 pm

Have you tried to redeopist


Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali (Post 34627767)
I have 3 BXP1's expiring around Thanksgiving, as well as two lounge passes. I am sure I can use one or two of them, but not 3. I looked in the Wiki but I am missing something or stupid today, can anyone remind me if I can transfer either of these passes (lounge or upgrade) to a coworker or friend/family? I am indeed the business manager for the company for the travel account, but some of these passes were redeemed using the promotion last year where they cost less points than usual.


Jonesdds Sep 24, 2022 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali (Post 34627767)
I have 3 BXP1's expiring around Thanksgiving, as well as two lounge passes. I am sure I can use one or two of them, but not 3. I looked in the Wiki but I am missing something or stupid today, can anyone remind me if I can transfer either of these passes (lounge or upgrade) to a coworker or friend/family? I am indeed the business manager for the company for the travel account, but some of these passes were redeemed using the promotion last year where they cost less points than usual.

just redeposit and good for a year. Not sure about lounge passes. I’m wondering with the changes next year what it will mean for doing this.

Carolina2Cali Sep 24, 2022 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by Centurion (Post 34627773)
Have you tried to redeopist


Originally Posted by Jonesdds (Post 34627834)
just redeposit and good for a year. Not sure about lounge passes. I’m wondering with the changes next year what it will mean for doing this.

Does that essentially put them back, give the points back, and then I can make new ones, at the higher price than last year's Thanksgiving discount deal? That seems ideal versus them expiring. But I am still wondering if I can issue one to someone else, a friend or family.

JJeffrey Sep 24, 2022 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali (Post 34627853)
Does that essentially put them back, give the points back, and then I can make new ones, at the higher price than last year's Thanksgiving discount deal? That seems ideal versus them expiring. But I am still wondering if I can issue one to someone else, a friend or family.

You can definitely use a BE award for anyone, they are not tied to you.

Jonesdds Sep 24, 2022 8:13 pm

BXP1s will be 650 each, not that deal

youll have to call as I understand it to use for someone else, but I could be wrong as the last time I did I had to call for even myself

Jonesdds Sep 25, 2022 7:31 pm

Does anyone know where the terms and conditions are really spelled out for 2023? I find nothing that’s detailed enough to be meaningful. Talking to agents means a bunch of conflicting info. Here’s what I understand so far that may be wrong:

On 1/1/23 will have three traveling employees incl me, but have that now. Was told I will not be able to redeem until spend $5000 in 2023 and would need all three of us to have traveled. But, was also told that flights taken in 2022 don’t count towards the $5000 or all 3 employees taking a qualifying flight in 2022. That makes no sense given the rolling 12 months. Probably a mistake by them but when I questioned it they were emphatic.

-fare code for bookings cannot be B,N, O, Q or S or basic economy, meaning the $5000 spend and qualifying flights have to be outside of these fare classes.. is this correct? I’d thought for upgrades they have to not be these codes.

one thing I didn’t ask is what redemption would mean if not able to qualify. If I were to redeem all points into BXP1 certs before the Jan1 date to qualify I’d be able to use them because ive “redeemed” before the changes before existing members?

JJeffrey Sep 25, 2022 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by Jonesdds (Post 34630193)
Does anyone know where the terms and conditions are really spelled out for 2023? I find nothing that’s detailed enough to be meaningful. Talking to agents means a bunch of conflicting info. Here’s what I understand so far that may be wrong:

On 1/1/23 will have three traveling employees incl me, but have that now. Was told I will not be able to redeem until spend $5000 in 2023 and would need all three of us to have traveled. But, was also told that flights taken in 2022 don’t count towards the $5000 or all 3 employees taking a qualifying flight in 2022. That makes no sense given the rolling 12 months. Probably a mistake by them but when I questioned it they were emphatic.

-fare code for bookings cannot be B,N, O, Q or S or basic economy, meaning the $5000 spend and qualifying flights have to be outside of these fare classes.. is this correct? I’d thought for upgrades they have to not be these codes.

one thing I didn’t ask is what redemption would mean if not able to qualify. If I were to redeem all points into BXP1 certs before the Jan1 date to qualify I’d be able to use them because ive “redeemed” before the changes before existing members?

1) It's a rolling 12 months, so once the new requirements kick in then any activity in 2022 should count. The $$ and traveler counter is now live.

2) The B/N/O/Q/S fare restrictions are only for BE upgrade awards, this has nothing to do with what fares you will or will not earn BE points on. You will earn BE points on those fares but you cannot apply a BXP1 or BXP3 upgrade.

3) Any awards claimed before 1/1/23 can be used like normal with no regards to how much you've spent in 2023 or how many travelers.

lowfareair Sep 28, 2022 4:19 pm

Thought I'd hit the $5k before the end of the year but now looking like I'll be about $400 short (just enough money to not want to do a "BE point run"). Some questions for redeeming:
  1. It looks like I'd have 12 months from when I redeem a BXP1 upgrade to use it, is that correct?
  2. Do Admirals Club One Day Passes have the same 12 month expiration or does it differ?
  3. Based on what I'm seeing, both the upgrades and the day passes are fully transferable?

_kurt Sep 28, 2022 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by lowfareair (Post 34639133)
Thought I'd hit the $5k before the end of the year but now looking like I'll be about $400 short (just enough money to not want to do a "BE point run"). Some questions for redeeming:
  1. It looks like I'd have 12 months from when I redeem a BXP1 upgrade to use it, is that correct?
  2. Do Admirals Club One Day Passes have the same 12 month expiration or does it differ?
  3. Based on what I'm seeing, both the upgrades and the day passes are fully transferable?

Yes to your first two questions but on the day pass, you nominate the recipient when you redeem points for it. I’m not aware of a way to transfer it short of redepositing.

OneWorldSapphire Sep 29, 2022 12:00 am

Has anyone run into difficulties using the business.aa website to process a BXP1 for a flight booked using a mix of cash and flight credit? I made such a booking, fare code is G, confirmed space on expert flyer, but I cannot get the business.aa website to pull up the reservation so I can process the upgrade online. I get the message: "No records found. Please ensure you are using the American Airlines record locator." The only ever time I've seen this message is when I had 2 pax on the same record, and it turned out that was the issue so I had to call to have it split. Is the website just down, or can it not process upgrades for flights booked using these annoying credits?

ft4lyf Oct 3, 2022 8:27 am

Hello I flew an AA coded (AA flight XXXX) QR flight. Ticket was issued by AA (001).
Will I get BusinessExtra credit for this flight?

Markie Oct 4, 2022 6:28 am


Originally Posted by ft4lyf (Post 34650713)
Hello I flew an AA coded (AA flight XXXX) QR flight. Ticket was issued by AA (001).
Will I get BusinessExtra credit for this flight?

No, has to be operated by AA, BA, IB, JAL.

ft4lyf Oct 4, 2022 11:03 am


Originally Posted by Markie (Post 34653397)
No, has to be operated by AA, BA, IB, JAL.

thank you!


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