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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
. . . unless you're Captain America, you're not doing it while holding a baby.
He's (probably) not Captain America, but this guy also might be able to pull it off:

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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by 1200GS
Completely honest and innocent question - why would you, a complete bystander with no damages or impact in this situation reach out to AA?
Because this would affect everyone's safety if there was an emergency that required evacuation.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by 1200GS
I was more curious about the amount of time pearl clutching about it after the fact, although I do see the safety issue POV.
I dont see it as pearl clutching. If I was on a future flight with this cabin crew, I would appreciate it if the OP had made AA aware of the need to re-train these flight attendants, so they dont repeat this mistake.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
I dont see it as pearl clutching. If I was on a future flight with this cabin crew, I would appreciate it if the OP had made AA aware of the need to re-train these flight attendants, so they dont repeat this mistake.
Absolutely. There seem to be three categories of AA flight attendants - (1) those who overzealously enforce made up rules, (2) those who fail to enforce anything, and (3) those who get it right. Unfortunately, category 3 seems to be shrinking, while examples of category 2 seem to be increasing substantially. Probably due to FA concerns about being the subject of a viral passenger confrontation video. Very sad.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 1:34 pm
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Another, related issue I often see is elderly passengers seated in exit rows. I look at them and think, there is no way they are getting the window exit open in an emergency situation. I wonder if a passenger has ever pressed a flight attendant about this during the safety briefing.*

(*I was recently on a flight where they forgot to do the safety briefing.)
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by dpb132
Another, related issue I often see is elderly passengers seated in exit rows. I look at them and think, there is no way they are getting the window exit open in an emergency situation. I wonder if a passenger has ever pressed a flight attendant about this during the safety briefing.*

(*I was recently on a flight where they forgot to do the safety briefing.)
A few years back on a UA flight my husband and I were on the two aisle seats in the exit row. Between him and the window was an elderly couple and when the FA came to ask if we were all willing and able a member of the couple by the exit said, Well I dont know if I can, but my husband can if not. The FA immediately looked at my husband in the aisle and said, Youre going there, while pointing at the window seat and reseated the couple to another row.

It was pretty funny at the time with the point being that some FAs do care.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by iadisgreat
A few years back on a UA flight my husband and I were on the two aisle seats in the exit row. Between him and the window was an elderly couple and when the FA came to ask if we were all willing and able a member of the couple by the exit said, Well I dont know if I can, but my husband can if not. The FA immediately looked at my husband in the aisle and said, Youre going there, while pointing at the window seat and reseated the couple to another row.

It was pretty funny at the time with the point being that some FAs do care.
It's better than the FA on my last United flight who was commenting about how he would not be able to open the door and that the examiners just let him pass to keep on flying.

I heard it was the same with the late Bette Nash in her later years - apparently would have caused too much bad publicity to have her fail.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 5:49 pm
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Thank you all for your comments. What I do not know is if the parent in 16D totally covered the infant with a blanket, I know there was a blanket being used but I was sitting in 17D I could not see directly in front of him without standing up during descent.. In which case the parent was actively deceiving the flight crew in a dark cabin.

Regardless, I will send a note to AA this weekend. To me this is something that needs to be reminded in training.
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Old Jun 19, 2025 | 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by DataPlumber
Its been a while since Ive had an infant or young child but the rules were, no held or ticketed infants and children in exit rows (for obvious reasons). You also could not have part of your party with an infant or child in a normal row with an adult in the exit row. There were also certain aircraft where infants werent allowed in the 1 row immediately forward of the over-wing exits. That might have been the MD80s, IIRC. If in read this correctly, it was probably a family on separate itineraries, but a possible goof by the GA if not. And yes, the FAs should have reseated exit row parent.
The GA asked me the "are you willing and able" question when he scanned my boarding pass, and the same GA worked with the couple to get their stroller tagged. So there is no way the GA didn't know.
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 5:46 am
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Its a violation of both FARs and airline policies. No child under 15 may be seated in an emergency exit row. No lap children, obviously. Most airlines, mine included, will not allow separated families to occupy exit seats. Dad cant take the exit while mom and kids sit two rows back. It should be covered when seats are assigned. In my case, we are to ensure this doesnt happen. On its surface, and without seeing everything personally, it seems to have been a failure on the part of the flight attendants.
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 9:14 am
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I don't know how they do things over in Elmhurst, Nick.

But just to the south of you in Hinsdale, we speak up to an FA when we see safety rules flagrantly violated.
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
I dont see it as pearl clutching. If I was on a future flight with this cabin crew, I would appreciate it if the OP had made AA aware of the need to re-train these flight attendants, so they dont repeat this mistake.
Re-train?

Do you really think AA flight attendants "forgot" this safety rule?

Seriously?

Have we really reached that point in civil society where we are that frightened to call something what it is for fear of offense?
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by dpb132
Another, related issue I often see is elderly passengers seated in exit rows. I look at them and think, there is no way they are getting the window exit open in an emergency situation. I wonder if a passenger has ever pressed a flight attendant about this during the safety briefing.*

(*I was recently on a flight where they forgot to do the safety briefing.)
I'm 78 and never sit in the exit row even though I might be able to handle an emergency. I don't want to put myself and other pax at risk for some extra leg room.
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by shinbal
Its a violation of both FARs and airline policies. No child under 15 may be seated in an emergency exit row. No lap children, obviously. Most airlines, mine included, will not allow separated families to occupy exit seats. Dad cant take the exit while mom and kids sit two rows back. It should be covered when seats are assigned. In my case, we are to ensure this doesnt happen. On its surface, and without seeing everything personally, it seems to have been a failure on the part of the flight attendants.
Given that a lap kid isn't permitted in an exit row, is there an extra oxygen mask there? If not, this would be a safety hazard throughout the flight; decompression can happen at any time during flight, not just during takeoffs and landings (when the oxygen mask wouldn't matter anyway since the aircraft would be at a low altitude).
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by arcticflier
Re-train?

Do you really think AA flight attendants "forgot" this safety rule?

Seriously?

Have we really reached that point in civil society where we are that frightened to call something what it is for fear of offense?
Retrain doesn't just mean that you need to remind them of the rule. Retraining also is important to emphasize the criticality of the rule and importance of enforcement.

If this FA has a history of not following rules and not doing their job, then they should be terminated. Unfortunately, AA doesn't seem to ever do that.

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Given that a lap kid isn't permitted in an exit row, is there an extra oxygen mask there? If not, this would be a safety hazard throughout the flight; decompression can happen at any time during flight, not just during takeoffs and landings (when the oxygen mask wouldn't matter anyway since the aircraft would be at a low altitude).
On the mainline jets, I believe they do, for standardization and having an extra in case of equipment failure. Can't remember for sure - good point though, one more risk on top of the many others identified in the thread.
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