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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Apr 5, 2022, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
I just crossed 40,000 miles - with a big slug of travel coming up. Given airfares, PPRO will be in easy reach and am now assessing if EXP is possible. I'm running 3 conferences this year and the credit card is being whipped out with frequency.
You have until Feb 2023 to go for it, lots of time.
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Old Apr 5, 2022, 1:29 pm
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Since we are going to be renting for a couple of years, starting in May, my plan is to ask whether we can put the rent on the CC. That would bring in quite a few LPs on a fixed expense. I guess we'll see.
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Old Apr 5, 2022, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ysolde
Since we are going to be renting for a couple of years, starting in May, my plan is to ask whether we can put the rent on the CC. That would bring in quite a few LPs on a fixed expense. I guess we'll see.
I had considered paying my tax estimates with a credit card, but the 1.8% just made it less appealing. If you come upon the same situation, pay a CC fee for rent, those LP better get you to be EXP.
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Old Apr 5, 2022, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Raralith
I had considered paying my tax estimates with a credit card, but the 1.8% just made it less appealing. If you come upon the same situation, pay a CC fee for rent, those LP better get you to be EXP.
Strongly considering putting my taxes on Amex Plat this month. Would get 1.5 points/$ for the transaction > $5000, plus a 40% transfer bonus through mid-May to BA (with a specific use in mind). If I paid $10K in taxes, I'd get 15,000 MR points which equals 21000 Avios. That'd cost me $180 - less than a cent per avios.
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Old Apr 5, 2022, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by thatmikereed
Strongly considering putting my taxes on Amex Plat this month. Would get 1.5 points/$ for the transaction > $5000, plus a 40% transfer bonus through mid-May to BA (with a specific use in mind). If I paid $10K in taxes, I'd get 15,000 MR points which equals 21000 Avios. That'd cost me $180 - less than a cent per avios.
Yup, makes sense to do that on an Amex Plat to pay the CC fee, and you even walk ahead if you had a sign on bonus with "X" spend in "Y" months. For AAdvantage though, specifically for LP where you're locked into AA, I'd have a very hard time doing this unless I needed the LP for EXP.
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Old Apr 5, 2022, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Raralith
Yup, makes sense to do that on an Amex Plat to pay the CC fee, and you even walk ahead if you had a sign on bonus with "X" spend in "Y" months. For AAdvantage though, specifically for LP where you're locked into AA, I'd have a very hard time doing this unless I needed the LP for EXP.
Yeah, 1:1 makes this much, much less valuable. My status is on AS, though I'll finish out MM on AA this year just to retain free bags/mid-tier boarding.
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
When did you purchase? If it's backdated before Mar 1 the LP earned are technically promotional and will be a separate line item, possibly a day later
Thanks - I gave them a call and they fixed it. It was after March 1 but just a bug I guess.
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by McTigerFan
It will last through March 31, 2024. McTigerWife's Gold status displayed as "valid through March 31, 2024" the day she passed 30,000 LPs.
I’m a bit confused. I will reach Gold later this month (end of April 2022). Will my Gold status expire March 31, 2023 or March 31, 2024?
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by ymx
I’m a bit confused. I will reach Gold later this month (end of April 2022). Will my Gold status expire March 31, 2023 or March 31, 2024?
2024.
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by ymx
I’m a bit confused. I will reach Gold later this month (end of April 2022). Will my Gold status expire March 31, 2023 or March 31, 2024?
Easiest way to think of it is:
You get a full year of elite status starting the next status year, plus the remainder of the year in which you earned it. Many people take a whole year to earn, so they get 12 months if they took till the end of the earning period.
Those like you, who earn it quickly, get a MUCH longer time at their status level.
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
Good luck during IRROPS. Or if you need to talk to an agent to do something that isn't completely obvious.
That was a great benefit during the craziness over the last few years. I would call about a flight issue that couldn't be done online on a non-elite account and have 6-8 hour callbacks (I know at some points people had much worse) My SO who was only gold would get a rep in under 15 minutes on the same day.
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Old Apr 7, 2022, 5:49 pm
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Hit my 10k loyalty points for Citi spend. Amusingly, I also got one award mile with it:
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Old Apr 8, 2022, 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by LovePrunes
Easiest way to think of it is:
You get a full year of elite status starting the next status year, plus the remainder of the year in which you earned it. Many people take a whole year to earn, so they get 12 months if they took till the end of the earning period.
Those like you, who earn it quickly, get a MUCH
longer time at their status level.
Thank you. That’s what I thought but the chat agent told me otherwise!
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Old Apr 11, 2022, 12:54 pm
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Loyalty points have been posting fine for me. My wife had some issues flying to and from CZM with her sister so AA gave her, without solicitation, some bonus segments towards the 30 segment amount. I tried to find where segments are tracked in my wife's AA account to see how many bonus segments she received and discovered that AA does not provide segment tracking anymore. Also, the account summary does not count miles earned outside of loyalty points. By way of example, we flew to Key West and paid for first call tickets. A group of women got on the plane highly intoxicated and one was thrown off before our lift off. We had to fly with the 2 other women sitting right in front of us and it was the worst flight I can remember. In any event, I emailed AA about what I witnessed about the justified eviction of the one woman in case AA needed a witness. AA gave me and my wife 5,000 miles but that transaction does not show up on my account activity. As an side, I did not ask for anything from AA but AA should have given us vouchers rather than the mileage since our first class seats were devalued by the women sitting in front of us.
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Old Apr 11, 2022, 1:12 pm
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I have seen some shortages in Loyalty Points. Flew RT to London in Club. Fare was over $3000 (before taxes), but instead of the expected 33,000+ LPs and RDMs, I got something like 24,000 LPs and RDMs. Also noticed that the account posting showed a calculation on distance.
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