Feb 13, 2020, 8:29 am
Last edit by: JDiver
Alaska Airlines is expected join the oneworld Alliance as a full member summer 2021 end of 2020, pending regulatory approval*.
link to earning EQM, EQD, EQS and Award Miles flying Alaska Airlines as AS marketed flights. (If flying as AA marketed flight (codeshare), earnings are as if flying AA.) As of April 1, 2020.
Seattle’s first-ever direct flight to BLR will be available for purchase later this month, with daily flights beginning October 2020. Daily service between SEA and LHR will be available for purchase in May 2020 for flights starting March 2021.
link to full release, 13 Feb 2020
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Alaska Airlines route map (including Virgin America)
- Alaska Airlines intends to join the oneworld® alliance, the world's fastest growing and most highly rated global airline alliance, by summer 2021, which will connect Alaska guests to more than 1,200 destinations worldwide.
- American will launch the first service from Seattle (SEA) to Bangalore, India (BLR) beginning October 25 2020. A new American route from SEA to the global business hub London Heathrow (LHR) will begin flying in March 2021.
- The airlines will continue their domestic codeshare that offers customers hassle-free booking and travel between the two networks. The codeshare will expand to include international routes from Los Angeles (LAX) and SEA.
- Alaska and American loyalty members will enjoy benefits across both airlines, including the ability to earn and use miles on both airlines’ full networks, elite status reciprocity and lounge access to nearly 50 American Admirals Club lounges worldwide and seven Alaska Lounges in the U.S.
link to earning EQM, EQD, EQS and Award Miles flying Alaska Airlines as AS marketed flights. (If flying as AA marketed flight (codeshare), earnings are as if flying AA.) As of April 1, 2020.
Seattle’s first-ever direct flight to BLR will be available for purchase later this month, with daily flights beginning October 2020. Daily service between SEA and LHR will be available for purchase in May 2020 for flights starting March 2021.
link to full release, 13 Feb 2020
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Alaska Airlines route map (including Virgin America)
Alaska / AS joining oneworld 31 Mar 2021, AA launching SEA-BLR/LHR
Feb 13, 2020, 8:55 am
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Bad about what might happen to the excellent stopover policy for one-ways or the partnership with EK.
Still dumbfounded on these developments. Checked todays date several times. Looks like AA wanted to hit back at DL for the shock announcement of LA.
Feb 13, 2020, 8:56 am
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Seems like a serious gut punch to Delta and UA. If the tie-up is as close as the old US/US star alliance it’s a huge win for AA fliers in so many more markets than just out West. Makes AA and One World a clear #1 at LAX.
Feb 13, 2020, 8:57 am
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Vistara is so lockstep with SQ, they can’t really even go to the bathroom without permission. So it’s up to whatever SQ wants, and the UA codeshare makes sense.
Feb 13, 2020, 8:58 am
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It wasn't self explanatory to me - thus my question. But I do appreciate your response. Sorry we're not all as well versed as you'd like.
Feb 13, 2020, 8:59 am
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And, AS is in T6 at LAX, so with AA in 4 and 5, one can walk between 4-5-6 as well as Bradley.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:03 am
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Nowhere in the announcement does it state "[a]ccess 650 lounges within the oneworld network as an MVP Gold or Gold 75k member on a domestic flight" AA uses the same 650 lounge access language, as is standard. Every carrier's announcement has the caveat of being on a qualifying flight, you're significantly over-parsing the language and drawing unwarranted assumptions.
For what it is worth, AA expressly includes the words, "qualifying itinerary".
There is no such thing as "over-parses". One either reads the plain English meaning of the words or not.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:05 am
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Very interesting. I do expect a number of AS non-OW partners to fall off though.
For miles or elite benefits sharing this seems like a return to the old days before the VX transaction? I do wish also they would have accelerated the elite baggage and boarding benefits, but miles accrual isn't bad assuming AA also does it soon for AS flights.
However, I feel this is more of a temporary plan until AA can acquire AS. Also, seems to be there will be some risk on long term supply and pricing issues for some other West Coast routes to places like NY, Hawaii and Mexico. Which to me indicates that Southwest's expansion really helped make this partnership come back alive.
The OW aspect was the biggest surprise.
For miles or elite benefits sharing this seems like a return to the old days before the VX transaction? I do wish also they would have accelerated the elite baggage and boarding benefits, but miles accrual isn't bad assuming AA also does it soon for AS flights.
However, I feel this is more of a temporary plan until AA can acquire AS. Also, seems to be there will be some risk on long term supply and pricing issues for some other West Coast routes to places like NY, Hawaii and Mexico. Which to me indicates that Southwest's expansion really helped make this partnership come back alive.
The OW aspect was the biggest surprise.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:09 am
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SQ and UA do not get along at all. UK's decision to codeshare was likely made based on the market and what UK needed to grow.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:15 am
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:18 am
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AA has never had a major presence across the northwest. This plugs that gap in a major way.
I really wonder how long this has been in the works? Did AA dissolve the old Alaska partnership solely to leverage Alaska into better terms for this new one? Or is this only an opportunistic response to the Delta/LATAM thing...
I really wonder how long this has been in the works? Did AA dissolve the old Alaska partnership solely to leverage Alaska into better terms for this new one? Or is this only an opportunistic response to the Delta/LATAM thing...
Feb 13, 2020, 9:23 am
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Feb 13, 2020, 9:25 am
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I almost think this is a huge maskirovka on the part of AA. The 2018 “breakdown” of the AA/AS relationship, and discussing how India flights are unprofitable and saying in jest that they would fly to India too (in response to DL’s ambiguous statement on restarting “India flights” without any specific route at the time). Only to then start *new* ultra and long haul service out of a non-hub/focus city focused mostly on O&D - when AA has stuck to the cornerstone + phl/clt for so long.
the only AA long hauls I can think of that aren’t out of a hub are rdu-lhr and the newly restarting bos-lhr (which are both fairly routine and non-innovative tatl routes). and there was that denied request recently for a slot for LAS-HND which was way out of left field.
Doug and Vasu trying to Make AA Great AAgain, I like it.
the only AA long hauls I can think of that aren’t out of a hub are rdu-lhr and the newly restarting bos-lhr (which are both fairly routine and non-innovative tatl routes). and there was that denied request recently for a slot for LAS-HND which was way out of left field.
Doug and Vasu trying to Make AA Great AAgain, I like it.
Feb 13, 2020, 9:32 am
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I'm happy
AA has never had a major presence across the northwest. This plugs that gap in a major way.
I really wonder how long this has been in the works? Did AA dissolve the old Alaska partnership solely to leverage Alaska into better terms for this new one? Or is this only an opportunistic response to the Delta/LATAM thing...
I really wonder how long this has been in the works? Did AA dissolve the old Alaska partnership solely to leverage Alaska into better terms for this new one? Or is this only an opportunistic response to the Delta/LATAM thing...