NEED ADVICE: Cancelled flight and additional expenses
#91
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 477
Here is the response from AA Customer Relations:
"Thank you for contacting American Airlines, as an AAdvantage® Platinum member, you are among our most valued customers.
We are sorry that your travel with us did not go smoothly. Providing dependable service is what's expected of us -- and when we are at the mercy of weather and Air Traffic Control, it's easy to understand our customers' disappointment. From your description it certainly sounds as if the delay was aggravating and uncomfortable, and we wish we had done a better job of overcoming the many challenges we faced. When bad weather conditions play havoc with airline schedules, we don't often have too many options to help make such situations less trying. Still, your comments enable us to understand things from our customers' perspective, which is crucial as we strive for better performance next time.
All this aside, I recognize we inconvenienced you and we'd like to make amends. Accordingly, I have issued a eVouchers in the amount of $100 to be sent to each of you (via separate emails) to use towards a ticket with us. You may use the voucher towards the purchase of a ticket for travel on American Airlines or American Eagle within 12 months from the date of issue. While the voucher itself is nontransferable and cannot be sold or bartered, you may use it to buy a ticket for a friend or relative if you prefer.
Additionally, I've submitted for a refund for the unflown segments of your reservation. For your convenience you can check the status of the refund by visiting www.refunds.aa.com using ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, and xxxxxxxxxxxxx. Please allow 7 business days (M-F) for the system to update. Depending on your banking institute it may take up to 2 billing cycles for the refund to reflect on your statement.
We want travel on American to be pleasant and trouble free and appreciate your comments. I hope this one experience does not cause you to lose confidence in us. We value you as a customer and are eager to demonstrate our ability to provide the level of service you expect from American."
I think this comes very close to making me whole as it recovers my car rental and booking fee costs. Now if the reimbursement of the purchase receipts comes through from the baggage service department it would get close to meeting my expectations. However, those 24 hours on first day of travel were nerve wrecking. I still can't believe I found 4 award tickets at MileSaver price on UA 6 hours before departure out of OKC.
"Thank you for contacting American Airlines, as an AAdvantage® Platinum member, you are among our most valued customers.
We are sorry that your travel with us did not go smoothly. Providing dependable service is what's expected of us -- and when we are at the mercy of weather and Air Traffic Control, it's easy to understand our customers' disappointment. From your description it certainly sounds as if the delay was aggravating and uncomfortable, and we wish we had done a better job of overcoming the many challenges we faced. When bad weather conditions play havoc with airline schedules, we don't often have too many options to help make such situations less trying. Still, your comments enable us to understand things from our customers' perspective, which is crucial as we strive for better performance next time.
All this aside, I recognize we inconvenienced you and we'd like to make amends. Accordingly, I have issued a eVouchers in the amount of $100 to be sent to each of you (via separate emails) to use towards a ticket with us. You may use the voucher towards the purchase of a ticket for travel on American Airlines or American Eagle within 12 months from the date of issue. While the voucher itself is nontransferable and cannot be sold or bartered, you may use it to buy a ticket for a friend or relative if you prefer.
Additionally, I've submitted for a refund for the unflown segments of your reservation. For your convenience you can check the status of the refund by visiting www.refunds.aa.com using ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx, and xxxxxxxxxxxxx. Please allow 7 business days (M-F) for the system to update. Depending on your banking institute it may take up to 2 billing cycles for the refund to reflect on your statement.
We want travel on American to be pleasant and trouble free and appreciate your comments. I hope this one experience does not cause you to lose confidence in us. We value you as a customer and are eager to demonstrate our ability to provide the level of service you expect from American."
I think this comes very close to making me whole as it recovers my car rental and booking fee costs. Now if the reimbursement of the purchase receipts comes through from the baggage service department it would get close to meeting my expectations. However, those 24 hours on first day of travel were nerve wrecking. I still can't believe I found 4 award tickets at MileSaver price on UA 6 hours before departure out of OKC.
#93
Join Date: Apr 2003
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I did not think about it much once I left IAD and like you said did most of my shopping at Woolworth's (similar to H&M). My first outbound call to them was from IAD airport, Second one an inbound call from them when I was at ZRH airport. I did spend 30 mins extra upon landing in CPT to get a copy of the world tracer. After that i just enjoyed my vacation. I did make one more call when I got a text notification that the delivery company was going to deliver my bag home. This time I called and asked them to simply hold the bag at DFW airport. my tense moment were the 24 hours trying to get to IAD. Once i was at IAD airport I did breathe a sigh of relief.
All I am looking for is a way to make myself whole on the costs I incurred which is $180 one way car rental, $222 close in booking fee for UA award tickets and the purchases I made in CPT worth $300. Since I got the Avios already back the UA miles I spent are sort of a wash though slightly more.
All I am looking for is a way to make myself whole on the costs I incurred which is $180 one way car rental, $222 close in booking fee for UA award tickets and the purchases I made in CPT worth $300. Since I got the Avios already back the UA miles I spent are sort of a wash though slightly more.
Your best argument is to ask AA to reimburse you for the $300 because of the delay in getting your baggage to you. I'm skeptical about that under the circumstances but suppose that's an argument you can make with a straight face Again, maybe there is travel insurance.
#95
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 477
Another interesting update:
I wrote back to Customer relations and asked them if I could instead of eVouchers get miles. Very soon afterwards I got a call from the same lady and we had a lengthy discussion about what happened and in the end she said nothing can be done about the eVouchers since i have already issued them but i will go ahead and add 10K miles to your account. (only 1 account).
I checked my account just now and the miles are already posted..
I wrote back to Customer relations and asked them if I could instead of eVouchers get miles. Very soon afterwards I got a call from the same lady and we had a lengthy discussion about what happened and in the end she said nothing can be done about the eVouchers since i have already issued them but i will go ahead and add 10K miles to your account. (only 1 account).
I checked my account just now and the miles are already posted..
#97
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 24,153
Without getting into all the details which have already been discussed extensively in this thread all I know and care is that I trusted AA to get me from DFW - DC (any airport) in a 24 hour window and they failed to do so and also misplaced the bag in the process. As a result i had to spend 50K UA miles, $222 is close in booking fees and $180 on a one-way car rental. Also, I had to spend $300 (very conservative for 4 pax in a foreign country) due to bag not being delivered. I strongly believe that due to absolutely no fault of mine that i should be asked to bear those expenses. Forget about the nightmare I had to go through with all the complaining from family members, if I can just recover my true expenses i will consider the case closed.
I know many people who were left holding the expensives as there own since they didnt have travel ins and didnt get clearance beforehand to do as they planned and the carriers refused to refund any portion of their layout.
I fully understand why you did what you did and had you not you would have missed your IAD-CPT flight, but AA knew 1 thing and 1 thing only you were going to IAD and no further, and as per another post of yours yes even if IAD was your final destination be it for a wedding, concert ball game, meeting with The POTUS any carrier owes you nothing more then either eventual transport to IAD or the area or a full refund. Yea it stinks but thats how it is
Getting vouchers for future travel to me isnt being refunded, even if it amounts to the same. Getting a check for the amount is. Although the vouchers arte better then nothing at all
Last edited by craz; Jul 13, 2019 at 10:12 pm
#98
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 477
After having flown Millions of miles over x decades, theres 1 very important lesson I learnt (thankfully it didnt happen to me) that at any time if you will purchase alternative tkts, car rental,or hotel stay get permission 1st and have the PNR so noted. Failure to do so will usually result in not being refunded whatsoever. Thusly only purchase on your own that which you are willing in the end to be on your own dime
I know many people who were left holding the expensives as there own since they didnt have travel ins and didnt get clearance beforehand to do as they planned and the carriers refused to refund any portion of their layout.
I fully understand why you did what you did and had you not you would have missed your IAD-CPT flight, but AA knew 1 thing and 1 thing only you were going to IAD and no further, and as per another post of yours yes even if IAD was your final destination be it for a wedding, concert ball game, meeting with The POTUS any carrier owes you nothing more then either eventual transport to IAD or the area or a full refund. Yea it stinks but thats how it is
Getting vouchers for future travel to me isnt being refunded, even if it amounts to the same. Getting a check for the amount is. Although the vouchers arte better then nothing at all
I know many people who were left holding the expensives as there own since they didnt have travel ins and didnt get clearance beforehand to do as they planned and the carriers refused to refund any portion of their layout.
I fully understand why you did what you did and had you not you would have missed your IAD-CPT flight, but AA knew 1 thing and 1 thing only you were going to IAD and no further, and as per another post of yours yes even if IAD was your final destination be it for a wedding, concert ball game, meeting with The POTUS any carrier owes you nothing more then either eventual transport to IAD or the area or a full refund. Yea it stinks but thats how it is
Getting vouchers for future travel to me isnt being refunded, even if it amounts to the same. Getting a check for the amount is. Although the vouchers arte better then nothing at all
I also agree that a voucher is not a refund but if there is high likelihood that i will be able to use them in due course without taking additional trips just to utilize the voucher they are good enough
I however have a different viewpoint on the fact that all that the airline owes is a full refund and nothing more. Any time you enter into a contract there are always penalty clauses. Almost every ticket sold is non-refundable which means i don't have the right to change my mind without consequences and so nor should the airline be allowed to do so. It surely does not mean they have to compensate for all the expenses I incur. I think when the DOT initially established that all mistake fares have to be honored they were thinking about the non-refundable contract the airline was enforcing on the consumer.
I have also lately been thinking about the "act of god" clause based on so many of you commenting on the weather situation that occurred.. In spirit it is fair and good but I can think of so many gray areas that it is critical to have well defined boundaries and unfortunately even then there will be dissatisfaction. However,let's save that discussion for a later day.
Last edited by svasandani; Jul 14, 2019 at 12:05 am
#99
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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This whole sad story reminds me of the great Henny Youngman joke about the man checking in three bags at the airport:
Passenger: I want you to send one bag to London, one bag to Tel Aviv, and one bag to Honolulu.
Ticket agent: Sir! We can’t do that!
Passenger: Why not? You did it last month!
Passenger: I want you to send one bag to London, one bag to Tel Aviv, and one bag to Honolulu.
Ticket agent: Sir! We can’t do that!
Passenger: Why not? You did it last month!
#101
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 477
Final Update from AA on reimbursement associated with delayed / undelivered baggage:
"Mr. XYZ, thank you for providing the requested information. Your mailing address has been verified during my call. I reviewed your receipts and authorized a check for $415.12. The difference on the total amount is the currency conversion. We use OANDA on the day of travel. You should receive your check in two to three weeks.
Mr. XYZ, despite what happened on this occasion, I hope I’ve helped restore your faith in American and that we'll see you onboard again soon."
I am satisfied with the outcome.
As a side note: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...m=BoardingArea
"Mr. XYZ, thank you for providing the requested information. Your mailing address has been verified during my call. I reviewed your receipts and authorized a check for $415.12. The difference on the total amount is the currency conversion. We use OANDA on the day of travel. You should receive your check in two to three weeks.
Mr. XYZ, despite what happened on this occasion, I hope I’ve helped restore your faith in American and that we'll see you onboard again soon."
I am satisfied with the outcome.
As a side note: https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...m=BoardingArea