Rumor: Project Oasis retrofitting reversal???
#31
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Reversal? With the current bean
Gary Weissel, managing director of Tronos Aviation Consulting Inc., estimated that American could generate about $400,000 a year for each seat it adds to a plane, based on average fares and typical aircraft usage.
#32
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: Rapid Rewards, AAdvantage, SkyMiles
Posts: 2,931
This is one time where I hope a rumor turns out to be true. Not only does OASIS affect the folks in back, it also affects F passengers along with the FA's as well. Not a good combo.
#33
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal
Programs: AA EXP, HHonors LTDia, Marriott Plat
Posts: 639
#34
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,315
On what has to wonder who reviews the designs and looks at the quality of fit and finding. The 788s has a ton of complaints, and this the poor F design is something that would be obvious from a mock-up.
#35
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,477
So is this the moment that Douggie Parker finally sat in one of the Awaysis B738Max 30 inches seats and maybe have had the fortunate yet unforgettable experience to sat on the back-end lavatory for a moment?
if so I might belive in the rumour.
if so I might belive in the rumour.
#36
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AA PLT, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,405
I’m EP, but my wife prefers JetBlue. We have 3 kids. The first Oasis flight will probably be my wife’s last. And I’ll start connecting thru Atlanta. Every AA flight, she’s asks if they will have seatback entertainment for the kids. She’s feeling the stress of having to manage all the devices and batteries. She suffers with AA because I get us MCE, usually, but that’s hit or miss with those US planes where most MCE seats are exit row and my kids can’t sit there.
Im sure they’ll reverse the decision, but only after shareholders fire Parker. That will be some time. He’s strategy is aimless. And he’s eroding the brand. Someday, the BOD will realize that. Just like the goofballs running Hienz-Kraft.
Im sure they’ll reverse the decision, but only after shareholders fire Parker. That will be some time. He’s strategy is aimless. And he’s eroding the brand. Someday, the BOD will realize that. Just like the goofballs running Hienz-Kraft.
#37
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: AAdvantage PP
Posts: 13,913
If none of this is correct then why have the ME3 US3 moved more towards the ULCC model? I wish this wasn’t so but I see no evidence that AA is going to move away from “ densification.” After all it’s not senior management trying to get a/c turned around on tight turns. And if you are EXP or CK it would be rare for you to sit in a Y- seat.
Last edited by JDiver; Mar 4, 2019 at 8:27 am Reason: Correct distracting error
#38
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Bonvoy titanium
Posts: 537
If none of this is correct then why have the
Last edited by JDiver; Mar 4, 2019 at 8:28 am Reason: Correct distracting error in quoted post
#39
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: AZ
Programs: AA Exec Plat; Marriott Plat; HHonors Diamond; Hertz PC
Posts: 213
#40
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST
Posts: 27,730
If none of this is correct then why have the
Last edited by JDiver; Mar 4, 2019 at 8:30 am Reason: Correct distracting error in quoted post
#41
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 20
If none of this is correct then why have the ME3 moved more towards the ULCC model? I wish this wasn’t so but I see no evidence that AA is going to move away from “ densification.” After all it’s not senior management trying to get a/c turned around on tight turns. And if you are EXP or CK it would be rare for you to sit in a Y- seat.
I’m EP MIA based, so going to DL will be a pain. But not that much. And oddly, they often have better timing than AA on the routes I take.
#43
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: YYJ
Posts: 4,137
Don't believe that's a fair assessment. DL is also standardizing most of their narrowbody fleet to 30-31" pitch in Y, notwithstanding the A220.
#44
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: YYJ
Posts: 4,137
#45
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: Delta DM, AA EXP, Hyatt Diamond, HHoners Gold, SPG Gold, National ExecElite, Hertz PC, Avis First
Posts: 204
DL hasn’t densified. And UA is adding more premium cabin so their ratio is better for upgrades. Plus DL is keeping IFE. I’ve sat in Y and I care. Plus when I travel with my family, I’m usually in Y and I’ll say that I really care about the experience in Y when I’m with my young ones. I’ll book away just so I can get IFE for them. My employer gives us discretion on carrier.
I’m EP MIA based, so going to DL will be a pain. But not that much. And oddly, they often have better timing than AA on the routes I take.
The difference is that Delta has kept IFE, and their first seats are well padded whereas the AA seat has that awful bar which protrudes into one’s back. Delta also does a much more thourough and thoutful job with their interior design (or redesign.) Case in point: An Oasis 738 has new bins but has kept the old 1990s side walls. Conversey, Delta’s recently retrofitted 757s have been completely gutted floor to ceiling so that they are indistinguishable from a plane built yesterday.