GUWonder

apodo77

It was confirmed by crew members on board and the Miami airport team. Who else do you want to confirm it?

“They were asked to deplane after multiple passengers, along with our crew members and Miami airport team, were concerned about the comfort of our other passengers due to the odor.

fotographer

most people dont really know if they smell, probably get used to their own odor

JDiver

Some couldn’t know, say, if they’re anosmic. My wine connoisseur niece used a homeopathic zinc-based nasal remedy and became anosmic (fortunately, not permanently, but the recovery took a long time and wasn’t 100%). She could have munched on a potato or apple blindfolded and not known the difference, because she had zero sense of smell.

And yep, ask anyone who has been in lengthy combat situations or long hikes, etc. We can become impervious to what would be noticed by others. I’ve been in workplaces where workers became insured to occupational odors.

The issue here is passengers complained, crew members (and apparently “ground pounders” as well) verified and ultimately the Captain made a de ision - I’m sure with the awareness second guessing, investigation, negative publicity, etc. we’re likely.

I’m sure rare decisions are made based on personal biases, though after publication, investigation and even law suits from incidents of this type they’re rare and decreasing in number as airlines establish policy and train personnel. As a passenger, I’m generally comfortable when crew investigate and the Captain decides to have someone removed.

(I distinctly recall an in identnyears ago, when a very agitated man with apparent Tourette’s boarding with an escort loudly shouting “No! No! The bomb! The bomb!” as he was being guided to his seat. All the passengers in the DC-10 coach cabin heard him, and considerable discomfort was expressed. He also shouted he would behave as he and his escort were removed from the plane. I doubt he’d have been able to sit quietly, iirc MIA to SFO, or perhaps to DFW, for the entire trip, much less if we experienced turbulence, etc. Discrimination against a person with a mental - emotional disability in violation of the Air Carrier Access Act wasn’t an issue - extreme disruptiveness resulting in considerable passenger anxiety and discomfort was, as crew reported and the Captain determined.)

ozflygirl747

It doesn't diffuse it - it's just like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

Even if they do shower they don't have their luggage with them to change into clean clothes or have their toiletries such as deodorant so it's likely they will be putting on the exact same clothes they were wearing the day before unless they purchased new clothing somewhere.

They didn't report what these people said in response to their question. Even if they did ask other passengers whether or not they smelled some people may not be prepared to tell them the truth ie "yes you stink" for fear of offending said pax.

Insulator-King

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...imination.html

Jewish family who were kicked off a flight for having 'extremely offensive body odor' are SUING American Airlines for discrimination

Now the lawsuit.
I do wonder if they were able to purchase replacement clothes after staying in a motel.

mvoight

What about compassion for people who would have to smell this for hours on the plane?

mvoight

Shouldn't be hard to find clothes in Miamia
Nothing to do with discrimination due to religion........AA has had Millions of Jewish passengers. How many of them have you heard about getting kicked off a flight?

enviroian

is limited when sitting in an aluminum tube with no legroom, oversized people, and 160 passengers.

craz

You are assuming that in fact he or they did have a bad odor.

i can tell you from my own incident (not smelling) I had a problem with the head FA on a previous flight, when boarding that morning (new flight) words were exchanged. She runs to the Capt who demanded I apologize. I said once she does to me I will to her. Boom He says hes not flying the plane with me on it .

My point is the Capt didnt ask me what took place but simply accepted whatever Lindsey said as fact and that I was 1000% at fault, at least hear the other side. On a flight a couple of months later another Capt came up to me asks to speak to me in the jetway and says if I should act up he will divert and throw me off. Turned out Linda the head FA for that flight was friendly with Lindsey and wanted me off the flight. At least that Capt was smart enough to hear both sides and realized Linda was simply putting her 2 cents where it didnt belong.

Now from an article I read elsewhere it seems upon boarding Mr Adler asked for a free set of headphones and said the other flight didnt have any and I was told to ask on here. The Capt said something to extent that nothing is complimentry and Adlers tone might not have been the kindest. So that requset may have been why they wanted them off and "bad odor" was simply a cover.

That said I also sweat like a pig w/o much effort. Add in schelping bags, stroller, carry-ons and getting thru TSA and to the gate at times its looks like I just got out of a shower, odor not

I wasnt there but Im not gonna say whos making things up but I know just like at times with the cops they will do and say things to CTA, no one today will say reason for off-loading color of skin, political leaning, religion etc etc they simply use an excuse that cant be proved . btw whats the excuse for not off loading the bags??

bitterproffit

You keep giving an airline money that treats you this way? You flew them a second time?

MSPeconomist

Sometimes I wish the airlines would boot people for wearing excessive amounts of perfume and similar smelly substances even if they're supposed to smell nice. It can be very overpowering to the point of almost becoming dangerous for allergy sufferers.

sbrower

Maybe the OP is just unlucky. But how many times have you been asked by the Captain to deplane because you had an argument with a FA, and it was so memorable that the FA's friends are trying to keep you off their flights?

USA_flyer

After a shower, you need to add deodorant and anti-antiperspirant to your underarms. There are strong antiperspirants on the market that will help with sweating if you sweat a lot, they can be bought in most pharmacies and grocery stores for a couple of bucks. I'll apply my antiperspirant liberally if I'm going to be somewhere warm or somewhere my arms are going to be motion restricted like on a plane. It's courtesy to others, plus I don't like the smell of B.O.

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George

Particularly at MIA (my home airport) the walk from Security to the AC (and some of the gates) can be a jaunt. I prefer walking for the exercise. I by habit walk very fast so I always carry items to "freshen up" for that mild sweat I might break. Also, if I'm taking an evening flight and there's a shower at the AC I will shower. I realize that these people did not have that second option.

None of us know whether in fact they smelled or didn't smell. In in fact they did they are adults. As an adult you are responsible for having appropriate hygiene in a public place.

I realize a few FAs and GAs are on ego trips. I don't argue with them, it's not worth it not to mention being denied boarding/kicked off a flight.