Buddy pass pax gone wild on AA (July 2018)
Jul 23, 2018, 10:35 am
#106
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And then there's this: Link.
In any case, as I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Perhaps you can arrange to acquire a pass from a friend who's an AA employee. Then try to fly on it wearing short, cutoff jeans (without her rant, of course!
) and let us know how it goes.
In any case, as I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Perhaps you can arrange to acquire a pass from a friend who's an AA employee. Then try to fly on it wearing short, cutoff jeans (without her rant, of course!
) and let us know how it goes.
Jul 23, 2018, 11:07 am
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Jul 23, 2018, 1:58 pm
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The woman definitely has issues. A commenter on OMAAT shared a link to a radio show in Kingston, NY where she was interviewed about an incident in Dunkin Donuts where she claimed an employee stole $20.00 from her. I guess that was ‘t worth live Facebooking.
Is there any kind of document a non rev has to sign that states they will behave? Maybe there should be.
Is there any kind of document a non rev has to sign that states they will behave? Maybe there should be.
Jul 23, 2018, 2:31 pm
#109
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i non reved once, with my then 5YO child. It was totally free for the both of us, no taxes IIRC and I could have sworn I had to acknowledge a code of conduct. It ended up costing me a hotel night and cabs and meals as we only made it as far as ATL and then couldnt get further till the next day. They had a mechanical and suddenly a flight i could get on vanished for availability. Never flew non rev again.
Jul 23, 2018, 3:45 pm
#110
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Same thing happened back in 2010 when Ruby Rose had a friend with QF staff travel benefits. Some travel companions just don't 'get it' and fail to realise you
can't carry on like a prima donna when flying non-rev or turn up looking like something the cat dragged in.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...2a1597dc025d36
can't carry on like a prima donna when flying non-rev or turn up looking like something the cat dragged in.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...2a1597dc025d36
Jul 23, 2018, 9:02 pm
#111
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I was surprised, I listened to the entire radio show she was a guest on and genuinely had thought that she was trying to pull a fast one on Dunkin' Donuts, but I pulled up her live stream for the incident (linked below), and it shows the police being called, reviewing surveillance footage and returning $20 in cash to her.
Jul 23, 2018, 11:21 pm
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Look at.the video, friends. She wasn’t wearing jeans as much as she was wearing tattered strips and remnants of what had once been jeans, revealing her thighs (as she states in the video, iirc). I’ve seen a number of homeless / Street people better dressed. I understand why she was turned down - and might she even have been turned down as a revenue passenger?
As for a KIN Gate Agent being terminated, none of us are aware of the reason(s) nor what previous disciplinary actions might have been in her personnel record. .
Jul 24, 2018, 1:07 am
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Jul 24, 2018, 7:33 am
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According to Savvy Stews (The Aluminum Lady), the cousin was PHL based and has also been terminated.
She was forced to buy tickets for two and take the bus home from Miami to NYC.
She got her cousin fired (I’m guessing once they focused on the cousin, they found things like selling buddy passes or ?} and probably undying enmity.
She got the KIN Gate Agent fired.
She likely didn’t get a refund on fees and taxes she paid, not to mention any premium she may have paid to her cousin.
She was banned temporarily from her social media account. (Nope, I’m not going to read that train wreck when she returns.)
I wonder if she learned anything? From the Dunkin‘ Donuts incident, I suspect not.
Last edited by JDiver; Jul 24, 2018 at 7:40 am
Jul 24, 2018, 8:47 am
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Charges, fees and taxes for non-rev travel are assessed only after each segment is flown and are automatically deducted from the sponsoring employee's paycheck or, for retirees, charged to a credit or debit card.
By providing your card information, you authorize American Airlines to charge the provided card for any balance due after each segment of your trip has been flown, and if you store your card for future trips, for any balances due after each segment of all future trips. You understand that your authorization will remain valid for any trip scheduled using this card, and that deleting or changing your stored payment information will not cancel this authorization. You may cancel your charge authorization for a scheduled trip only by canceling that trip. You also understand that the bank that issues your card may assess fees for each transaction.
Jul 24, 2018, 9:21 am
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I presume she already pre-paid her cousin, and so it's up to her now unemployed cousin whether to return those funds. Nothing like a good family drama!
Jul 24, 2018, 9:36 am
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I personally wish airlines would try and sue people like this for slander/defamation when they are clearly wrong, and using social media to virally spread their nonsense. Even just as a scare tactic. I mean I am all for free speech, but when you are this wrong, refusing to listen to reason, and spread your nonsense all over the internet for millions....
I guarantee you there are thousands of plebs out there that watched/heard the video have no clue what kind of passenger she actually was, and are spreading the AA hate etc. I know AA will be fine, and I doubt they have any interested in dragging someone like this through the mud some more, but I really wish airlines would start responding back to the new norm of social media bullying when you don't (correctly) get your way.
I guarantee you there are thousands of plebs out there that watched/heard the video have no clue what kind of passenger she actually was, and are spreading the AA hate etc. I know AA will be fine, and I doubt they have any interested in dragging someone like this through the mud some more, but I really wish airlines would start responding back to the new norm of social media bullying when you don't (correctly) get your way.
Jul 25, 2018, 4:45 am
#118
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She stole food from a concession stand. She slept in the airport terminal overnight and unsuccessfully attempted to board a plane in the morning. She claims to have paid full price for the buddy passes, saying that she saw the same price on cheap-o-air.
She also posted on Facebook "I am now being told I cannot fly using those tickets so once again I am refused To get on the flight supposedly due to my behavior as if I’m supposed to remain goddamn calm when my child and I have been traveling for almost 24 hours I have not slept since 5 AM yesterday morning and I’m supposed to remain goddamn calm" (sic)
See these follow up videos:
She also posted on Facebook "I am now being told I cannot fly using those tickets so once again I am refused To get on the flight supposedly due to my behavior as if I’m supposed to remain goddamn calm when my child and I have been traveling for almost 24 hours I have not slept since 5 AM yesterday morning and I’m supposed to remain goddamn calm" (sic)
See these follow up videos:
Jul 25, 2018, 6:20 am
#119
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Why was the food there anyway - I'm sure they didn't lay it out just for non-revs who weren't going to make it to NYC that night? Usually they only have that kind of thing in the event of major delays or irrops of some kind like when the MIA bound 763 had a mishap ie caught fire on the runway.
Jul 25, 2018, 6:34 am
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Why was the food there anyway - I'm sure they didn't lay it out just for non-revs who weren't going to make it to NYC that night? Usually they only have that kind of thing in the event of major delays or irrops of some kind like when the MIA bound 763 had a mishap ie caught fire on the runway.