Is AA actively trying to kill SFO-LAX?!
#46
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott BonVoy Titanium Elite, Marriott LT Plat.
Posts: 1,717
Update:
and yes, we’re currently delayed leaving SFO by 30 mins. Airflow issues into LAX on the SFO-LAX route
and yes, we’re currently delayed leaving SFO by 30 mins. Airflow issues into LAX on the SFO-LAX route
Capt. says we should still arrive on time though.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: AA EXP, UA Gold, SPG Plat
Posts: 386
I fly this route everyone week and sometimes twice. If SFO is your hub or frequent airport, you should know gate 45 is T1 and 5X gates are T2. Just go straight to T1 security. Is AC really necessary for domestic flights?
LAX remote terminal is a pain, but I agree with everyone that it has gotten better. I have made my last few flights going from rental car to gate under 20mins.
Also agree with people that like the E175. The single seat F is better than any 737. My upgrade rate is damn near 100% on this route. Good luck getting upgraded on UA and the 3-3 seatings in coach.
LAX remote terminal is a pain, but I agree with everyone that it has gotten better. I have made my last few flights going from rental car to gate under 20mins.
Also agree with people that like the E175. The single seat F is better than any 737. My upgrade rate is damn near 100% on this route. Good luck getting upgraded on UA and the 3-3 seatings in coach.
#48
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 522
Question re equipment changes please
Traveling with my 90 yr old dad, needing to go LAX-SFO at the end of March. I'm miles rich and cash poor and wanting to make this as painless on my dad as possible.
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA
#49
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, HH DIA, Hertz PC, GE + Pre✓, Amazon Super Special Prime
Posts: 1,008
Traveling with my 90 yr old dad, needing to go LAX-SFO at the end of March. I'm miles rich and cash poor and wanting to make this as painless on my dad as possible.
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA
- Schedules are loaded for 2019Q1, I doubt they will change equipment at this point. Perhaps a small adjustment to flight time.
- That route is currently running with 738 on the flight you are interested in. Started on 12/19 from what I can tell. Has run every day since on 738 metal.
- Tons of 738's that come through LAX, if your originally scheduled plane took a mechanical they would have another one available in short order.
- Not very common occurrence for AA to move a mainline flight on to regional metal in a IRROPS situation.
#51
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, HH DIA, Hertz PC, GE + Pre✓, Amazon Super Special Prime
Posts: 1,008
There is scuttlebutt going around right now that SFO is trimming regional carrier flights from their portfolio as the congestion is becoming more and more of an issue. There have been announcements from AA and UA regarding service into regional airports like Santa Rosa and Stockton to assist in freeing up slots at SFO. And moving 2 regional flights into 1 mainline flight is another way to accomplish that as well.
#53
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
#54
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
There is scuttlebutt going around right now that SFO is trimming regional carrier flights from their portfolio as the congestion is becoming more and more of an issue. There have been announcements from AA and UA regarding service into regional airports like Santa Rosa and Stockton to assist in freeing up slots at SFO. And moving 2 regional flights into 1 mainline flight is another way to accomplish that as well.
#55
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gatwick, UK
Programs: UA *G, BA Silver
Posts: 1,673
There has been at least one 738 running on LAX-SFO since the beginning of October – the flight number seems to have changed on 12/19, but the equipment has been doing it for a while.
#56
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, HH DIA, Hertz PC, GE + Pre✓, Amazon Super Special Prime
Posts: 1,008
This points up one of the left unsaid concerns about getting rid of smaller aircraft, e.g. CRJ's up to larger RJ's and RJ's to full-size single-aisle. Easiest way is to cut frequencies. That is fine for the leisure traveler. But, on short-haul and where time is money, the question becomes whether hanging around somewhere doing nothing or getting to work or home faster if not in less comfort, is better.
The trimming down is certainly coming to a head - what was once hourly service is now every 90 mins or 2 hours.
#57
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,819
LAX-SFO may be the biggest market in the US in terms of frequency. IIRC there are well over 100 daily flights in the market - just between those two airports: AA, DL, UA, WN, and AS all have multiple frequencies.
Add to that at least 50 daily flights between SJC and LAX, 15 daily flights between OAK and LAX, and the dozens of flights from the various San Francisco airports and the various LA airports, there is a s**t-ton of traffic.
Add to that at least 50 daily flights between SJC and LAX, 15 daily flights between OAK and LAX, and the dozens of flights from the various San Francisco airports and the various LA airports, there is a s**t-ton of traffic.
#58
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco area
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott T
Posts: 455
Some things to keep in mind before people rant about topics like AA giving up Bay Area -XYZ market. WN owns inter CA/west coast market, period. I have been a EXP for over 10 years yet I mostly fly WN for any destination west of rockies, the airport coverage and frequencies simply can't be touched by anybody. Recently I flew to DEN for few days from SJC from where there was an early flight that got me in time, on way back I got done early and there was an early flight back to SJC but that would have left me handling the traffic buzzsaw out of SJC to east bay, instead I ended up choosing the flight back to OAK from where my commute back home was only 30 mns, no airline can provide that kind of flexibility. The Biz Select fares on WN are designed for the purpose of getting occasional travelers like me with the flexibility to change whenever with no cost.
I am grateful for AA to build up in LAX, have flown on their flights to HKG/NRT/PVG recently and look forward to their EZE service next year where I fly 1-2 times a year, for these international flights I don't care the extra half hr it takes to connect, AA is trying to use their space the best. If you a O&D traveller between Bay Area and LAX, you got your choice of 200+ flights as earlier poster has mentioned. Out of SFO it would be great if AA can deploy better planes to PHL and CLT, otherwise their coverage is perfect, the upgrades to JFK is perhaps the single best thing I am thankful to AA for.
I am grateful for AA to build up in LAX, have flown on their flights to HKG/NRT/PVG recently and look forward to their EZE service next year where I fly 1-2 times a year, for these international flights I don't care the extra half hr it takes to connect, AA is trying to use their space the best. If you a O&D traveller between Bay Area and LAX, you got your choice of 200+ flights as earlier poster has mentioned. Out of SFO it would be great if AA can deploy better planes to PHL and CLT, otherwise their coverage is perfect, the upgrades to JFK is perhaps the single best thing I am thankful to AA for.
#59
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO/MIA/JFK
Programs: AA EXP/*wood Plat/Hilton Gold/Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 289
Traveling with my 90 yr old dad, needing to go LAX-SFO at the end of March. I'm miles rich and cash poor and wanting to make this as painless on my dad as possible.
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA
LAX's Eagles Nest logistics would be too much for him, but I've found there's one flight a day on a 738, Flight 2533 in both directions. I put on hold first class MileSAAver award tix, 30k roundtrip pp. A lot of miles for this short hop, but worth it to make my dad comfortable.
But what are the chances of the 738 being swapped for the E175?
I've been reading up on the 738 Oasis conversions, currently my res shows a 160 seats Version 1 - but a change between 738s wouldn't be a concern because we'd still leave LAX from the main terminal. (If I'm makng the wrong assumption, please someone correct me!)
If of interest to others: I also see one flight a day on a 319, Flight 2764 in both directions - but those times don't work for us.
TIA