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miadukes Jun 1, 2018 11:59 am


Originally Posted by chicagoflyer1976 (Post 29817911)
depending on when you go, this can be really tough to clear. I booked a trip last summer for this past February, and first through Dallas (to/from both Honolulu and Maui) were practically sold out 6 months in advance.

I looked at some routes on aa.com and the seat availability in 1st was pretty wide open for my dates.

Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 29817955)
Avoid PHX to Hawaii. Not worth the upgrade. It's the worst flight in the network IMO.

in first or in general? I flew this route two years ago, PHX-KOA (kona?) in economy and it wasn't bad. MCE seats though. but no food which I though was absurd.

Antarius Jun 1, 2018 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by miadukes (Post 29818096)
in first or in general? I flew this route two years ago, PHX-KOA (kona?) in economy and it wasn't bad. MCE seats though. but no food which I though was absurd.

It is basically an old LUS bird with no power, no IFE. In F, I felt it was a total ripoff, especially given LAX has the nice LAA 321s and DFW has the 772s (which are by far the best).

In summary, not worth the upgrade. The delta between F and Y on these 752s is not worth the price paid. At all.

miadukes Jun 1, 2018 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 29818321)
It is basically an old LUS bird with no power, no IFE. In F, I felt it was a total ripoff, especially given LAX has the nice LAA 321s and DFW has the 772s (which are by far the best).

In summary, not worth the upgrade. The delta between F and Y on these 752s is not worth the price paid. At all.

Ok thanks for the info, I will keep that in mind when selecting itineraries as well. What plane is that from PHX? Granted I must be in the minority or maybe cuz it was my first eve flight up front but from LIM-MIA was the 767 and i thought that was just fine LOL (but again from what I read I am in the minority and in all fairness I haven't experienced any other First class product)

Antarius Jun 1, 2018 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by miadukes (Post 29818420)
Ok thanks for the info, I will keep that in mind when selecting itineraries as well. What plane is that from PHX? Granted I must be in the minority or maybe cuz it was my first eve flight up front but from LIM-MIA was the 767 and i thought that was just fine LOL (but again from what I read I am in the minority and in all fairness I haven't experienced any other First class product)

old US airways 757. 12 F seats but they replaced the LUS angle flats with the domestic F seats. No power, no in flight entertainment.

DFW has the 777 with lay flat seats. I highly recommend this route.

mcrw00 Jun 1, 2018 6:12 pm

Booked DFW-HKG departing mid-August on a Saturday, my first time on this route. I immediately requested a Y -> J Miles + copay upgrade.

I’ve heard about how difficult it is to be upgraded on this flight, and know from experience that Saturday is a bad day for J upgrades on TPACs. OTOH, most of my NRT/HND upgrade requests this year have cleared between 3-6 weeks prior to departure.

What are my ballpark chances of this leg clearing either several weeks out or at the gate?

I am an EXP, but barely made the EQD cutoff.

GunsOfNavarone Jun 1, 2018 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by mcrw00 (Post 29819258)
Booked DFW-HKG departing mid-August on a Saturday, my first time on this route. I immediately requested a Y -> J Miles + copay upgrade.

I’ve heard about how difficult it is to be upgraded on this flight, and know from experience that Saturday is a bad day for J upgrades on TPACs. OTOH, most of my NRT/HND upgrade requests this year have cleared between 3-6 weeks prior to departure.

What are my ballpark chances of this leg clearing either several weeks out or at the gate?

I am an EXP, but barely made the EQD cutoff.

Out of DFW the upgrade is tough, and I have found being #1 on the upgrade list one our prior to departure means nothing, with three open seats, a lot of weird things go on and suddenly other PAX are higher on the list or PAX lower on the list are selected. Seemed fishy to me as it has happened twice, but if I wanted a J ticket I needed to buy one, anything else is just a wish and a prayer.

I flew last Tuesday on a paid J LAX to HKG- went out with three empty J seats. I suspect LAX-HKG may be a bit easier upgrade than DFW-HKG.

mcrw00 Jun 1, 2018 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by GunsOfNavarone (Post 29819305)
Out of DFW the upgrade is tough, and I have found being #1 on the upgrade list one our prior to departure means nothing

In these two cases how many days/weeks were you on the waitlist prior to DoD?

Antarius Jun 1, 2018 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by mcrw00 (Post 29819433)
In these two cases how many days/weeks were you on the waitlist prior to DoD?

Why does it matter? Time of request doesnt affect your position. Unless you mean they release advance C inventory - which I have not seen/heard of on this route

mcrw00 Jun 1, 2018 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 29819482)
Why does it matter? Time of request doesnt affect your position. Unless you mean they release advance C inventory - which I have not seen/heard of on this route

That’s what I meant. All 4 of my SWU redemptions this year cleared with advance C inventory, though not for the HKG route.

EQDsSUCK Jun 2, 2018 9:55 am

Upgrade Success from MCI, DCA, and MIA
 
Do any Platinums or Platinum Pros have any experience with how frequently they get upgraded on these routes:

DCA-MIA
DCA-ORD
DCA-DFW
IAD-DFW

MIA-TGU
MIA-STI

MCI-DCA
MCI-CLT
MCI-MIA

whimsey21 Jun 2, 2018 12:00 pm

Don’t hold your breath. As a plat flying in/out of dca and iad regularly, i have not been upgraded on any of the routes you list this year, though I always request the upgrade. Last year as EXP, I flew dca to/from dfw a number of tImes, and never received an upgrade; on one trip back from dfw, I was number 17 on the upgrade list.

IADCAflyer Jun 2, 2018 1:43 pm

Agree and disagree with last poster. I've upgraded three out of four in the last 12 months and have upgraded MCI last time I did it.

However, prime time ORD flights are tough. I upgraded ORD three weeks ago as a Plat - a noon flight. I missed upgrading ORD-DCA on the return on a prime time dinner flight - was #1 on the list.

I do ten to upgrade MIA - in the early morning and late evening flights. This is an elite heavy route as its hub-hub and you get a lot of cruisers who pay for F. Prime time upgrades for plats are tough.

DFW is hit and miss. Ive had success and I;ve been way back on the list.

EQDsSUCK Jun 2, 2018 11:36 pm

Thank you for the feedback!!! :-)

GunsOfNavarone Jun 3, 2018 12:52 am


Originally Posted by mcrw00 (Post 29819433)


In these two cases how many days/weeks were you on the waitlist prior to DoD?

I am a typically a full fare Y flyer, who often purchases tickets from 24-72 hours out, so I am not typically wait-listed for extended periods of time.

thedeeg Jun 3, 2018 3:49 pm

I’ve applied to use a couple of my 500 mile upgrades on my CLT-DFW tomorrow, and I’m on the list with 1 seat left in F.

I don’t fancy my chances as gold with $7K EQD over the last 12 months.

Same goes for the return on Tuesday. Got to try though, haven’t you?


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