Executive Platinum Average EQD
Dec 2, 2017, 9:26 am
#61
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: STL/ORD/MCI/SAN
Programs: AA CK MM, AC SE100K, BA Gold, UA 1K, DL Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,989
Some have suggested that non-AA spend may provide less priority for CK consideration (I'm not sure I've seen that confirmed anywhere, but it's been mentioned in the CK thread).
However, EQDs are EQDs, regardless of whether they come from AA flights, partner flights, or credit card spend -- all methods contribute to elite upgrade priority.
Dec 2, 2017, 9:44 am
#62
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DCA
Programs: UA LT 1K, AA EXP, Bonvoy LT Titan, Avis PC, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,658
.So someone with $64K spend and 320K EQM - has likely really only flown 160K BIS miles. Once you reach the 100K EQM - additional EQM only provide more eVIPs at 50K increments. In the end - it all comes down to EQD for miles earned and upgrade priority.
Last edited by cova; Dec 2, 2017 at 10:45 am
Dec 2, 2017, 10:06 am
#63
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: South Florida, USA
Programs: AA CK; UA GS; Marriott Ambassador; Hilton Diamond; AMEX Centurion
Posts: 16
My assumption is AA conducted significant proprietary research prior to arriving at the $12k EQD; 100k EQM; 120 EQS EXP threshold... therefore, there would be a normal distribution of EXP flyers where the minima is $12k USD and upper limits approximately $65k, at which point we enter CK territory.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Dec 2, 2017, 10:32 am
#64
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,511
That doesn't affect anything in regards to my domestic upgrades when I do fly AA.
Dec 2, 2017, 10:47 am
#65
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DCA
Programs: UA LT 1K, AA EXP, Bonvoy LT Titan, Avis PC, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,658
My assumption is AA conducted significant proprietary research prior to arriving at the $12k EQD; 100k EQM; 120 EQS EXP threshold... therefore, there would be a normal distribution of EXP flyers where the minima is $12k USD and upper limits approximately $65k, at which point we enter CK territory.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Dec 2, 2017, 2:37 pm
#66
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Not sure yet
Programs: Marriott - Lifetime Platinum Premier, AA - CK
Posts: 263
Dec 2, 2017, 3:07 pm
#67
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AA EXP & Life Plat; AA 4MM; TWA Life Plat; HH Diamond
Posts: 1,109
EQD: $17K
EQM: 108K
EQS: 58
Upgrades have been 100% YTD...but in fairness I manage my buying by looking at available seats for sale in Expertflyer in F - now J prior to purchase. I also tend to travel midcons. I have had a couple of Unlimited upgrades clear JFK-SFO-JFK and all my SWU/BXP1 requests have cleared either at booking or at least more than 4 days prior to the flight.
EQM: 108K
EQS: 58
Upgrades have been 100% YTD...but in fairness I manage my buying by looking at available seats for sale in Expertflyer in F - now J prior to purchase. I also tend to travel midcons. I have had a couple of Unlimited upgrades clear JFK-SFO-JFK and all my SWU/BXP1 requests have cleared either at booking or at least more than 4 days prior to the flight.
Dec 2, 2017, 3:42 pm
#68
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA & UK -- AA EXP 3.5MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Avis President's Club
Posts: 6,411
This whole game:
So ... I proposes an easier game.
- Feel inferior to those who spend more of OPM than you spend
- Feel superior to those who do not spend as much OPM as you spend
So ... I proposes an easier game.
- At the airport, look around for people who are physically smaller than you are.
- When you find someone smaller than you, beat the living tar out of him/her
- Easier to know if someone's telling the truth
- Less damaging to the economy (in terms of corporate profits)
- Instant gratification. Instead of waiting to trump someone on the upgrade list, you get to whup their butt immediately.
- Small people have a huge advantage when occupying cramped main-cabin seats, so it's only fair that we invent a game which puts them at a disadvantage.
Dec 2, 2017, 4:52 pm
#69
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: AUS
Programs: AA Exec Platinum/MM, DL Gold/MM, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,977
I sure hope there is some selection bias in the responses in this thread, because my 13,8xx EQDs is looking pretty puny. 104K EQMs.
Dec 2, 2017, 5:03 pm
#70
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: AUS
Programs: AA Exec Platinum/MM, DL Gold/MM, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,977
My assumption is AA conducted significant proprietary research prior to arriving at the $12k EQD; 100k EQM; 120 EQS EXP threshold... therefore, there would be a normal distribution of EXP flyers where the minima is $12k USD and upper limits approximately $65k, at which point we enter CK territory.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Based upon seeing colleagues’ travel and spend - 120-150k EQM with $14-18k spend is typical for a “garden variety” EXP.
Dec 2, 2017, 5:10 pm
#71
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: STL/ORD/MCI/SAN
Programs: AA CK MM, AC SE100K, BA Gold, UA 1K, DL Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,989
Interesting how quickly the game was turned on its head... Parker & Co. must be loving this.
To any newbies, I'd advise not worrying too much about EQDs. In most cases, it will be much easier and cost-effective just to buy J/F than worrying about adding more EQDs for upgrade priority or even status itself, particularly if the main reason for achieving status is upgrade priority (which, granted, isn't the case for everyone).
Dec 2, 2017, 6:35 pm
#72
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,602
Dec 2, 2017, 11:58 pm
#75
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, SPG/Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4
Based out of SFO. Always clear my SFO-JFK flights but rarely get anything from SFO-DFW (going out on Tuesday morning this week and not Monday, so maybe?) . Recently cleared 1/41 ORD-SFO and 1/43 MSP-ORD at the gate.
$1k EQD about 7500 EQM planned in Dec but here's where I am:
EQD: 13,206
EQM: 121,591
EDS: 92
$1k EQD about 7500 EQM planned in Dec but here's where I am:
EQD: 13,206
EQM: 121,591
EDS: 92