Speculation: Will AA continue to pull back in NYC?
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This is a classic utilization flight, gone from JFK 20:50-05:35. With fuel prices reasonably low, I don't see why AA needs paid F or business travelers to keep utilization flights covering costs at the least, and they don't have anything better to do with a domestic airframe at that hour. And if you're not willing to fly a redeye, you're no worse off than you were before AA started offering this flight.
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Assuming that routes continues 12 months of the year, those are GREAT times for skiing trips. Get your full day's work or school in and a leisurely trip to the airport, be at the slopes at 2 a.m. or so, sleep in and have your first runs before lunch. On the way back, check out of the hotel or condo in the morning, ski all day, be on the road by 6 p.m. and no worries about traffic.
On the return, only works (for me) if my lodging has a facility to shower after skiing (And mine did at Breck 2 years ago when I flew back via LAX on a "mistake" F fare). Or if they do at the AC (?), I guess I would maybe buy a pass.
And the next day would be a bust, after a 3.5 hr red eye in a domestic F seat!
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I go to Toronto a few times a year and until last September generally flew AA, but with those nice planes on which I was routinely UGed (of course, that was under the old system, no telling what would have happened nowadays) now replaced by all-Y rattling metal egg crates, I've shifted my flying to AC and PD, both of which IMO offer a better product.
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I go to Toronto a few times a year and until last September generally flew AA, but with those nice planes on which I was routinely UGed (of course, that was under the old system, no telling what would have happened nowadays) now replaced by all-Y rattling metal egg crates, I've shifted my flying to AC and PD, both of which IMO offer a better product.
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Assuming that routes continues 12 months of the year, those are GREAT times for skiing trips. Get your full day's work or school in and a leisurely trip to the airport, be at the slopes at 2 a.m. or so, sleep in and have your first runs before lunch. On the way back, check out of the hotel or condo in the morning, ski all day, be on the road by 6 p.m. and no worries about traffic.
If you are going skiing out west for a quick trip and have to be very efficient in terms of time, I would recommend heading further west. Last year, I flew EWR-YVR on AC on a Friday night, didn't miss a day of work because it left in the evening, and was at Whistler by 11:30. On Sunday, I left Whistler around 6, took Cathay's redeye YVR-JFK flight, and was able to be at work Monday morning. I wouldn't have been able to be productive all day Monday had my redeye been much shorter.
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