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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by kimy
I assume it's an AA booking operated by Finnair?

As OW sapphire, will or have you received 2 checked bags accoring to AA or just one bag according to AY policy?
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Epinz300
Quick question with BE. I know you can pay to pick a seat 48 hrs before a flight with BE, can I get seats assigned and then change if I want? Or once a seat is assigned I am stuck there? Its about a $200 difference right now for a flight from DCA to TLH for a wedding for me and my wife. Its a regional jet so its 2-2 config and want to sit together. Any ideas or suggestions?
If you pay to have seats assigned in advance, you can change them between the time you purchase and the time the flight goes under airport control and no one can change their seats, yes. You'll also be able to see the seat map before you purchase and can opt not to purchase if there aren't two free seats next to each other. It should be about $11 per person to prebook a non-preferred seat and that seems to be the price systemwide on BE tickets (that's what we paid on ORD-DFW and the price that was offered when I did a dummy BE booking ORD-LHR a few months ago).
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 10:03 am
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I'm a little confused by Basic Economy checked baggage allowance with OneWorld status (e.g. Sapphire, Emerald) specifically on connecting flights with multiple carriers.

Which baggage allowance is most important? The first flight? The longest flight? Some other combination?

I've phoned AA and contacted their Twitter team and I get all sorts of different answers in the following scenario;

I'm planning on travelling DCA-BOS-LHR all in Basic Economy, all on the same ticket
- DCA-BOS operated by AA, marketed by AA
- BOS-LHR operated by BA, marketed by IB
- Ticket stock with Iberia.

AA told me today that as OneWorld Sapphire, I was told that I should expect:
- 0 bags
- 1 bag
- 2 bags

Its alllllll so confusing! Can anybody here clarify which of these is most likely?

Thank you in advance!
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by Simon Schus
I'm a little confused by Basic Economy checked baggage allowance with OneWorld status (e.g. Sapphire, Emerald) specifically on connecting flights with multiple carriers.

Which baggage allowance is most important? The first flight? The longest flight? Some other combination?

I've phoned AA and contacted their Twitter team and I get all sorts of different answers in the following scenario;

I'm planning on travelling DCA-BOS-LHR all in Basic Economy, all on the same ticket
- DCA-BOS operated by AA, marketed by AA
- BOS-LHR operated by BA, marketed by IB
- Ticket stock with Iberia.

AA told me today that as OneWorld Sapphire, I was told that I should expect:
- 0 bags
- 1 bag
- 2 bags

Its alllllll so confusing! Can anybody here clarify which of these is most likely?

Thank you in advance!
The international segment should set the baggage policy for the entire trip - in fact, in 2017, we flew ORD-LGA, took the Queen Mary 2 to England, and flew LHR-ORD. Both flights were ticketed and operated by AA, and we booked through Cunard, and for some reason, we each got one free checked bag on the ORD-LGA flight.
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 11:12 am
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Originally Posted by TribalistMeathead
The international segment should set the baggage policy for the entire trip - in fact, in 2017, we flew ORD-LGA, took the Queen Mary 2 to England, and flew LHR-ORD. Both flights were ticketed and operated by AA, and we booked through Cunard, and for some reason, we each got one free checked bag on the ORD-LGA flight.
Thank you for getting back to me! I think in 2017 the Basic Economy transatlantic fares weren’t available so I’m not sure how much this has changed!

AA Customer Relations told me 2 bags today so I shall print out the email and use that on arrival at the airport!
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by Simon Schus
I'm a little confused by Basic Economy checked baggage allowance with OneWorld status (e.g. Sapphire, Emerald) specifically on connecting flights with multiple carriers.

Which baggage allowance is most important? The first flight? The longest flight? Some other combination?

I've phoned AA and contacted their Twitter team and I get all sorts of different answers in the following scenario;

I'm planning on travelling DCA-BOS-LHR all in Basic Economy, all on the same ticket
- DCA-BOS operated by AA, marketed by AA
- BOS-LHR operated by BA, marketed by IB
- Ticket stock with Iberia.

AA told me today that as OneWorld Sapphire, I was told that I should expect:
- 0 bags
- 1 bag
- 2 bags

Its alllllll so confusing! Can anybody here clarify which of these is most likely?

Thank you in advance!
2 bags since you are OW Sapphire, just make sure they have your FF# on your reservation. The only time you will not get the OW benefit is with BA hand bag fares.
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 2:41 pm
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Hi travelers,

Here's a question I can't find info on - I'm traveling BE on American soon and was wondering whether it's better to check in as soon as possible or as late as possible to score a better seat. Any thoughts/experience? I guess the real question is whether AA assigns seats at check-in in order of least-to-most preferable available seats, or most-to-least preferable.

Thanks for any insight you have!
Gary
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Old Feb 7, 2019, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkp
Hi travelers,

Here's a question I can't find info on - I'm traveling BE on American soon and was wondering whether it's better to check in as soon as possible or as late as possible to score a better seat. Any thoughts/experience? I guess the real question is whether AA assigns seats at check-in in order of least-to-most preferable available seats, or most-to-least preferable.

Thanks for any insight you have!
Gary
I would assume check in later. By then possibly only MCE seats are left albeit probably in the middle. Or just pay the extra if a desirable window or aisle is open.
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Old Feb 8, 2019, 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkp
Hi travelers,

Here's a question I can't find info on - I'm traveling BE on American soon and was wondering whether it's better to check in as soon as possible or as late as possible to score a better seat. Any thoughts/experience? I guess the real question is whether AA assigns seats at check-in in order of least-to-most preferable available seats, or most-to-least preferable.

Thanks for any insight you have!
Gary
Based on my experience, it does not really matter.
What I do highly recommend is to go to gate ASAP and ask nicely to be put in a better seat (if available).
That has worked for me. Even MCE or exit seats.
Based on my experience, only gate can change, not Admirals, Check in at Airport or any AA phone CS.
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Old Feb 8, 2019, 1:01 pm
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It's unnecessarily risky for me to wait to check in, since I figure I have an equal chance at a free MCE seat or a middle seat in the back of the plane. I'd rather pay my $11 at T-48 and know I have a halfway-decent seat.
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Old Feb 10, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by TribalistMeathead
It's unnecessarily risky for me to wait to check in, since I figure I have an equal chance at a free MCE seat or a middle seat in the back of the plane. I'd rather pay my $11 at T-48 and know I have a halfway-decent seat.
I disagree. I see value using BE on short hops, and refuse to give AA extra revenue for flights that aren't worth more than $50 (n.b. TPA > MIA).
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkp
Hi travelers,

Here's a question I can't find info on - I'm traveling BE on American soon and was wondering whether it's better to check in as soon as possible or as late as possible to score a better seat. Any thoughts/experience? I guess the real question is whether AA assigns seats at check-in in order of least-to-most preferable available seats, or most-to-least preferable.

Thanks for any insight you have!
Gary
Another datapoint...

I'm AA dirt and recently flew MSY-PHL in BE.

I started online check-in a few hours after T-24 and was reviewing the upcharge options on the seatmap when I backed out of the process hoping to consider my options and complete OLCI a bit later. So, much for that idea, 'cause once I left the seat selection page, I was checked in automatically, and given a back middle (23E) on a seemingly empty flight.

About an hour laster, I logged back in to aa.com in hopes of changing or upgrading (for pay) my seat. No luck. No ability to alter the given 23E seat.

However, at the airport, when using the kiosk to print my boarding pass, I was given the option to change my seat for $$$. iirc, most aisles/window were still $11. If I wanted to change to another middle, the upcharge was $10.00. At that point, I decided to stick with my 23E since the rest of my row was still empty. Luckily, those seats remained empty when the door closed.

Next time, if there is a next time, before OLCI, I will definitely review my flight's seat map on aa.com/EF and consider my options.
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by bk3day
About an hour laster, I logged back in to aa.com in hopes of changing or upgrading (for pay) my seat. No luck. No ability to alter the given 23E seat.
Interesting. One advantage of Basic Economy on Delta is that you can change your seat in the app after check in. Initially you'll see only middle seats, but a few hours before the flight aisles or windows appear (free).
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 9:26 am
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Just checked my wife and I in for a flight that has about 30 unassigned seats. Numerous pairs of open seats, but all in the "preferred" or MCE part of the plane. I thought the system might automatically put us together in a pair, but instead it put us in comically far apart middle seats toward the back of the plane.

Based on this, I'd say a good BE check-in rule is:

If there are both good and bad seats available, WAIT to check in until the last possible moment. The system automatically gives away the bad seats and single seats first, so unless all of the "good" seats and seats together get snapped up by people paying for an assignment/late-selecting main cabin elites, last minute check ins will probably get a better seat.
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 4:03 pm
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Thank you for all of your messages! I'm happy to say that waiting until all economy seats were booked worked for me. I used the app to monitor available seats throughout the day and didn't check in until I noticed only MCE seats were available - this was about 2 hours before my flight. I checked in and scored a MCE seat, which came with all the benefits of extra leg room and a free alcoholic drink.

About a half hour later I checked the available seating again and noticed there were 4 regular economy seats open, probably a result of other passengers' upgrades or cancellations. I guess I got lucky and checked-in at the right moment! I hope this helps others flying BE on AA.
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