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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jul 19, 2019, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
Reports here are if the GA tries to change a BE seat they will be prompted to collect a payment. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. And yes the moral of the story seems to be check in under T-1 and odds are by then only MCE or at least Preferred seats will be available. Kinda of defeats the purpose of BE.
it all depends on the agent. My friend always buy basic economy (legroom is not important for her and overhead bin space is not a concern also) usually she wait to board last and I’d there are any MCE or preferred seats left, she asks GA I’d ita poaaible to switch. I would say it’s 50% change they do it for free
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 3:26 pm
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does AA gold get seat assignment with basic econ fare?

I am going to be buying RT MCI-MIA tickets for next January to coincide with a cruise. I will fly MCI-MIA Jan. 24 and return MIA-MCI Feb. 1. Airfares to Miami seem very high, over $400 RT. and $500 for the non stop flight. To save money I am thinking about booking a basic economy ticket. I know I get free bag check and early boarding with my AA gold status but can I get seat assignments in advance? If not I have to decide if it is worth $70 more for a seat assignment. If I don't get to sit next to my husband for a few hours I will live as we will be together 24/7 on the cruise.
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 3:44 pm
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If you look at the description of Basic Economy, it says:

-Seats assigned at check-in*
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*Rules apply to all passengers including AAdvantage elites
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 3:54 pm
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You can buy a seat 7 says in advance at normal pricing. Otherwise, you can get a seat for free by waiting on check-in.
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 4:00 pm
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Would it be cheaper to book the plane ticket through the cruise?
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Would it be cheaper to book the plane ticket through the cruise?
You just never stop giving good advice, do you?
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 4:28 pm
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The AA nonstop MCI-MIA is on an E175, which means no middle seats. I would consider booking basic economy if your dates are certain (as it would be with a cruise). Keep in mind you'll only earn half as many EQM though.
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by susiesan
I am going to be buying RT MCI-MIA tickets for next January to coincide with a cruise. I will fly MCI-MIA Jan. 24 and return MIA-MCI Feb. 1. Airfares to Miami seem very high, over $400 RT. and $500 for the non stop flight. To save money I am thinking about booking a basic economy ticket. I know I get free bag check and early boarding with my AA gold status but can I get seat assignments in advance? If not I have to decide if it is worth $70 more for a seat assignment. If I don't get to sit next to my husband for a few hours I will live as we will be together 24/7 on the cruise.
Booking a flight+hotel or flight+car vacation package — potentially with a cheap throwaway hotel or car rental in it for a couple of nights, which can potentially be done in different names than for the flights — may save airfare costs. The cruise line, as said above, may also have access to negotiated fare discounts.
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Old Jul 20, 2019, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Would it be cheaper to book the plane ticket through the cruise?
It might, only if you would take whatever airline / routing the cruiseline gives to you. If you want to choose your own airline / routing / date, you pay a Deviation Fee - and that may negate whatever saving you might get.

If there is any irrop you would be better off booking directly with the airlines. I also assume OP does not commit the mistake of booking the flight to arrive on the sail date. Also trying to book a revenue ticket 6 months in advance almost always would pay high price.
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Would it be cheaper to book the plane ticket through the cruise?
No. I am seeing $400 + RT fares and the cruise line wants $650 for air. Also, I want to fly in the day before the cruise and if you book cruise air you will be flying the day of the cruise departure and have to take the flights they give you. In January, flying to Miami from Kansas City the day of a cruise could be cutting it close due to weather delays.
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 am
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I had not noticed this-great catch

Originally Posted by wetrat0
The AA nonstop MCI-MIA is on an E175, which means no middle seats. I would consider booking basic economy if your dates are certain (as it would be with a cruise). Keep in mind you'll only earn half as many EQM though.
Wow, thanks for pointing this out. Now I will definitely book basic econ which is pricing out at today $435 pp vs $505 main cabin. I still can check a bag for free and get early boarding butt won't be stuck I na middle seat since there aren't any. If I am not seated next to may husband I will live. I am going to monitor this fare and look for a drop in price. Any suggestions of a web site to use that will watch the fare and send an alert when the price goes down?

I don't care about earning AA miles as I am no longer accumulating them. I used them all up last year and am trying not to fly AA anymore. My airline of choice now is UA but they don't have much in the MIA market. AA has the only nonstops from MCI.

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Old Jul 21, 2019, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by susiesan
Any suggestions of a web site to use that will watch the fare and send an alert hone the price goes down?
Google Flights
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 9:59 am
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Paid Seat Selection now begins 7 days (previously 48 hours) prior to flights within North America, see: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ic-economy.jsp

I have updated the wiki accordingly.

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Old Jul 24, 2019, 2:37 pm
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it seems as though the number of paxs that buy BE fares and end up in MCE is out of whack. I wonder what kind of tweaks will come. I hope AA doesn't reduce the number of MCE rows to better match demand. If DL considers their version of MCE (Delta Comfort) a separate class of service will DL sit their version of BE paxs in Delta Comfort if other Y seats are full? Or do they do a cabin roll?
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
If DL considers their version of MCE (Delta Comfort) a separate class of service will DL sit their version of BE paxs in Delta Comfort if other Y seats are full?
Yes. DL, UA, and AA all seem to do it. It seems to be the rare flight when many seats in Comfort+ or the equivalent are empty, but when they are, its more operationally efficient to seat the passengers still waiting for a seat assignment and who have yet to board there, than those already boarded or on the jetbridge.
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