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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 12:26 am
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companion baggage fees EXP +/- basic economy

My family (wife, 2 kids) and I want to take a fairly short (~2hrs) direct flight in a couple months, and we will have _a lot_ of baggage to check: I estimate at least 4-5 checked bags (unlikely to be more than 6). I am EXP, rest of family have no status.

I know that I get 3 free checked bags. Does that extend to my companions if on one PNR (i.e. 12 free checked bags in total allowance??). If so, does it still hold true in basic economy?

Given it's a short flight, we don't really care that much about seating. The options I'm considering are either all 4 of us on the same PNR in basic economy. Alternatively, me and one child in main cabin (and hope for an upgrade for both of us)...regardless, that would be 6 free checked bags, which is all we need, and my wife/ other kid in basic economy. Savings are not massive in doing this second option, around $100, but not trivial either.

Advice appreciated, thanks.

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Old Jun 27, 2019, 3:19 am
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You could always sign up for the Citi Platinum AA credit card that includes a checked bag for up to 4 folks on the same PNR as the primary card holder, and waives the first year fee.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by trueblu
My family (wife, 2 kids) and I want to take a fairly short (~2hrs) direct flight in a couple months, and we will have _a lot_ of baggage to check: I estimate at least 4-5 checked bags (unlikely to be more than 6). I am EXP, rest of family have no status.

I know that I get 3 free checked bags. Does that extend to my companions if on one PNR (i.e. 12 free checked bags in total allowance??). If so, does it still hold true in basic economy?

Given it's a short flight, we don't really care that much about seating. The options I'm considering are either all 4 of us on the same PNR in basic economy. Alternatively, me and one child in main cabin (and hope for an upgrade for both of us)...regardless, that would be 6 free checked bags, which is all we need, and my wife/ other kid in basic economy. Savings are not massive in doing this second option, around $100, but not trivial either.

Advice appreciated, thanks.

tb
All passengers on the same PNR as you will have you baggage benefits. Do not split the passengers into separate PNRs or they lose your benefit.

You still retain at least THIS benefit in BE.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by FlyinMike
Traveling with a minor gets you seat assignments a couple of days after ticketing a BE fare. Yeah it's in the back, but at least you get to sit together - which can be a plus or minus depending on how your kid is behaving!
Good to know. Yeah, it is the second to last row, but I am fine with it. Beats spending an extra $210 to be a couple rows further forward.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 7:35 am
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Side note, if your BE flights are operated by British Airways, you don't get any free bags even with status, IIRC, that being said you do get advanced seat selection.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 7:57 am
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Thanks all for confirming that all pax on one PNR retain the baggage fee waiver, very helpful.

And just to clarify, this will be US domestic flight: it's an AA flight number, but operated by Republic Airways as American Eagle...

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Old Jun 27, 2019, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by donotblink
Side note, if your BE flights are operated by British Airways, you don't get any free bags even with status, IIRC, that being said you do get advanced seat selection.
There was a chart about this but I cannot find right now. Baggage allowance seems to be marketing carrier driven. So if you buy an AA coded flight operated by BA, your elite baggage limit still applies.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 4:11 pm
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You get all priority boarding for all people on the same PNR and bag allowance for all people. No free seat selection and upgrades are not possible
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 6:21 am
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Priority boarding?

are we sure everyone gets priority boarding? When I have someone on my reservation now (not BE) I get group 2 as an exp and they don’t. Does BE change that?
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 6:24 am
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Originally Posted by chitink
are we sure everyone gets priority boarding? When I have someone on my reservation now (not BE) I get group 2 as an exp and they don’t. Does BE change that?
Even though their group is different, they can board with you. I have never had a problem with this.
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Old Jun 28, 2019, 7:50 am
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Any non-status passengers on the same PNR as an elite passenger gets group 4 automatically with priority status, but they can board with members in a higher group.
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 6:08 am
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Can buy a seat assignment on a basic economy flight fare?

I found a great fare to Mexico for this winter. But the bad news is it is economy basic and I read somewhere that I can not get an advanced seat assignment using this fare. But maybe I can if I pay extra cash for the seat assignment. Last time I was on a four-hour flight, I got a bad case of claustrophobia when I was stuck in a middle seat next to two 350 pound men on a completely full plane. I told myself never again after getting a panic attack from the experience.

Main Cabin Fare is $80 more expensive each way.

So again, can I buy a seat assignment on AA using a basic economy fare?

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Old Jul 11, 2019, 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by Narrow Seat
I found a great fare to Mexico for this winter. But the bad news is it is economy basic and I read somewhere that I can not get an advanced seat assignment using this fare. But maybe I can if I pay extra cash for the seat assignment. Last time I was on a four-hour flight, I got a bad case of claustrophobia when I was stuck in a middle seat next to two 350 pound men on a completely full plane. I told myself never again after getting a panic attack from the experience.

So again, can I buy a seat assignment on AA using an economy basic flight?
You can purchase a seat 7 days before departure. While not guaranteed likely there would be aisle or window seats available. What is the difference between Basic Economy and Main Cabin? It might not be worth it.
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 6:24 am
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well-timed good news

Originally Posted by Narrow Seat
I found a great fare to Mexico for this winter. But the bad news is it is economy basic and I read somewhere that I can not get an advanced seat assignment using this fare. But maybe I can if I pay extra cash for the seat assignment. Last time I was on a four-hour flight, I got a bad case of claustrophobia when I was stuck in a middle seat next to two 350 pound men on a completely full plane. I told myself never again after getting a panic attack from the experience.

So again, can I buy a seat assignment on AA using an economy basic flight?
A little over a week ago, they changed it so that you can now pay for a seat 7 days in advance:

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Old Jul 11, 2019, 6:57 am
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Honestly, why chance it? If the difference in fare is $80, but you're going to pay $X to get a seat assignment on the lower fare 7 days out, then the fare difference is really only $(80-X). Given the strict restrictions of basic economy, I'm not sure where the value is if you're going to pay for a seat assignment anyway......
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