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NOTE: AA uses Terminals 4 and 5, the remote “Eagle’s Nest” and some gates at TBIT . International Arrivals in particular may use T4, TBIT (100s numbered gates), the remote arrival piers (200s) or the maintenance hangars (300s); in the latter cases, passengers will be bussed to T4 (domestic and some international) or TBIT (some international), as both have USCBP processing facilities.

Link to Los Angeles World Airports' LAX Airport website

NOTE: LAX is always undergoing changes; be aware the information herein may change. See here for LAWA notices affecting passengers.

Link LAWA / LAX FAQ page.
Link to aa.com
Link to 14 Feb 2017 post with AA-AA Minimum Times Times

NOTE: The Admirals Club® lounge and Flagship Lounge in Terminal 4 at Los Angeles International (LAX) have been renovated and include Flagship Dining for those in eligible three class First cabin.

Special notice

AA operate from multiple terminals at LAX. Check in at Terminal 5, east end (Gates 50-59, including Remote American Eagle terminal, gates 52A-J) or Terminal 4 (Gates 40-49, 110-159). (As of 31 Jan 2017)

NOTE: the 100s gates are at the Tom Bradley International Air Terminal (aka Terminal B), accessible to / from Terminal 4 by the airside connector if you are already airside and security cleared. The 200 gates are the remote piers served by bus, and the 300 “gates” are the maintenance hangars served by bus.

Check-in times as of March 2016 Link
In most locations, you must be checked in:

At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States

At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to or from airports outside of the United States. Some non-US require more.

If you are checking in with baggage to check at T-4, not T-5, and flying American Eagle from the remote "Eagle's Nest" 52A-J gates (31 Jan 2017 and after), you must check in 90 minutes prior to departure.

LAYOUT: LAX is like a letter "U" on its side, open end facing right. The Tom Bradley International Terminal is the bar of the "U" facing left, on the west side. Terminals 1, 2 and 3 on the north and 4 - 8 on the south. Entering the semicircular, counter-clockwise roadway serving the terminals, you will pass terminals 1, 2, 3, TBIT, 4, 5, 6, etc. There is quite a bit of construction going on and the airport roadways can get quite congested.

MCT: Though international to International or Domestic Minimum Connect Times (MCT) are listed as 2:00, arriving at the remote western 200 pads and gates (served by busses from the terminals), connecting between T4, T6, Remote Eagle terminal and TBIT, not to mention lengthy USCBP queues and the need to proceed landslide to connecting terminals and processing security may make 2:00 unrealistic at times. MCT Domestic to Domestic or International is often 0:40, but this may be unrealistic if connecting American Eagle remote terminal 52A-J and a domestic flight at TBIT, for example.

Operating terminals and gates
Terminal 4: AA primarily uses Terminal 4, Gates 40-49 but now also uses Terminal 5 (50-59, 52A-I remote Eagle gates and TBIT (110-159). Flagship Checkin, Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge are all in T-4.
Tom Bradley International Terminal ("100") gates 110-159 for domestic and international flights, with no particular flight assignment - check your gates information.

oneworld Business and Qantas First lounges in TBIT for qualified passengers. See LOUNGE DASHBOARD for further information - link.

Occasionally, the "200 gates" remote pads (bus from T-4) may be used. Terminal 4 and TBIT are connected airside by a new connector. Qualified travelers may use the TBIT oneworld Business or Qantas First lounges. See separate thread.

Terminal 5
AS OF Tue 31 Jan 2017: Legacy US flights operate from Terminal 5, gates 50 - 59. It is best to check in for American Eagle flights at T-5. Airside connection exists, as well as shuttles. Bus port at T-5 is at gate 52. American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels; Eagle remote gates are now numbered 52A-J.

Terminal 6: Alaska Airlines flights operate from Terminal 6.

Legacy US flights operated from Terminal 6 until 31 Jan 2017; AA no longer operates out of Terminal 6.

American Eagle Remote Terminal "Eagle's Nest": Regional flights operate at a remote terminal served frequently by airside shuttle busses from bus gates 44 and 60. The remote American Eagle terminal gate numeration has changed: "May 16 2016 the remote gates at LAX formerly 44 A-J were renumbered to 60 A-J." There is a "junior" Admirals Club here. Preferred Eagle check in and baggage carousels are in T-5?

While you may check in at T-4 for American Eagle, those with baggage to check must do so no less than 90 minutes prior to departure. The preferred baggage check deadline is in place at T-5 for American Eagle.

Walking Interterminal - Landside

Note: You can walk airside between Terminal 4 and TBIT as of 25 Feb 2016. See LAX Terminal 4 - Tom Bradley Intl Terminal Secure Connector), and on to T-5 via a corridor (ground floor, by bus gate 44).

Terminals on the south side and TBIT are connected airside. A PDF guide is downloadable here.

One can also walk landside between terminals on upper or lower walkway sidewalks just outside the roadway. Lower walkways are protected from the weather, upper walkways are not. Distances can be short (T-4 <-> TBIT) or long (20 minutes or less in all cases, and there are crosswalks and walkways serving north and south terminals. See north - south blue corridors in Ground Transport map, above; walkways parallel them.

For access to the Tom Bradley International Terminal ("TBIT") one may also proceed landslide and walk a short distance, or take the counter clockwise landside courtesy airport shuttle bus.

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Here is a graphic I made from a Google Earth Streetview screenshot that shows how close T4 is to TBIT. It's a two-minute walk. One minute if you are fast.
Link to fullsize map


Airside - Shuttle Bus or Walking

Airside shuttle busses:

NO BUS T-4 <-> T-5 (faster to walk pedestrian tunnel)
T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)

Terminals 4 and 5: A courtesy shuttle bus operates airside between Terminal 4, ex-gate 44 bus gate, and Terminal 6 gate 60-62 through Mon 30 Jan 2017 - afterwards, Terminal gate 52, every fifteen minutes between 05:00 and 23:00; ongoing boarding pass required. At other times one either take the airside corridor T-5 Tue 31 Jan and after <-> T-4 or exit landslide and walk or take the counter-clockwise landslide courtesy shuttle bus.

American Eagle Remote Terminal: A courtesy shuttle bus serves the American Eagle remote terminal from Terminal 5, gate 52. Note: American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels. Another shuttle runs from Terminal 4, gate 44 bus gate. A boarding pass to Gate 52A-I is required. This is the sole way of reaching these gates (other than Five Star Service passengers, who are shuttled via the Tarmac in Cadillac SUVs).

Terminal 4 - TBIT: The new pedestrian airside connector opened 25 Feb 2015. Qantas and AA passengers departing the TBIT can check in at Terminal 4, process airside, use Admirals or Flagship lounges T-4 <-> TBIT shuttles apparently ended when the airside connector open 25 Feb 2016[/hl].

Walk Terminals 4 and 5: One can walk airside using the Terminal 4 - 5 - 6 connector.

Walk Terminal 4 - TBIT airside connector: An airside connector leading to TBIT is open effective 25 Feb 2016. See here (FT) for more.


Getting from terminal to terminal, concourse to concourse, landside

Landside courtesy airport shuttle bus
  • "A" line buses: Transports passengers between terminals. "A" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 minutes (counter clockwise)
  • "C" line buses: Transports passengers to and from Parking Lot C. Travelers can walk to the LAX City Bus Center from Lot C. "C" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 to 15 minutes.
  • "G" line busses: Transports passengers with a valid TAP card to and from the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. Service is aligned with the rail schedule. To view, please go to www.metro.net . Click here for Green line Boarding Procedures (PDF document). TAP card is not required when taking the G Bus from LAX to the Aviation Metro Station.
  • Use this link for a real time map display of shuttle bus locations and movements.
  • Rental car company busses: transport passengers between terminals and car rental facilities.
Ground Transportation stops and pickups at LAX
NOTE: Rental, hotel shuttle, Über, etc. stops are in front of each terminal on the arrivals / lower level at the island crossing the first lanes of traffic.

Security at LAX
Link to FlyerGuide information on LAX T-4 Security.

TSA PreCheck: Yes (Terminal 4 upstairs, east; Terminal 5?)

Priority Access line in a Terminal 4 is accessed from the escalator on the left end (looking at the counters) of the terminal (furthest from TBIT, closest to terminal 5), next to the Priority Access check-in area. Often there is an AA worker at the bottom of the escalator making sure only Priority Access passengers go up this escalator. The First, Business and Priority Access lines now have their own screening room far from the economy area. This private room has multiple screening lines and during peak periods additional lines are opened up.

Security for (TBIT) international arrivals proceeding to Terminal 4 is open as of February 2017. When exiting TBIT customs and baggage recheck area, turn right immediately after the exit and proceed down the hallway to the checkpoint. No Pre-Check.

Check-in and ticketing at LAX and check in times Link
Flagship Check-in: YES Marked exclusive T-4 Flagship check-in entrance 4:00 a.m. – 1:00 a.m.
Five Star Service: YES
Priority and Preferred Access: YES
Curbside check-in: Yes. Terminal 4 only, including for international destinations.

To help us get your bag on the same flight with you, present your bag to an airline representative for check-in no later than the cutoff time.

For flights within and between the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands:
  • Check bags at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX
For flights originating in airports outside the U.S. or flights departing the U.S. for an international destination:
  • Check bags at least 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure (90’ if checking for Eagle at T-4 instead of T-5)
Time to baggage delivery: expect 0:30 or more.

Ticket counter locations
Terminal 4: upon entry, Qantas to right; First and Priority Access to left; Main Cabin straight ahead.
Self-service check-in kiosks available.
Open Daily: 04:00 - 00:30 (4 am to midnight + 30)

Terminal 5, east side: OPEN Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

Terminal 6: CLOSE Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

If departing on American Eagle, suggested check-in at T-5 Tue 31 Jan 2017 or after.

Minimum and reasonable connection and check-in times at LAX
See 20 May 2016 ExpertFlyer MCT listings here:
Originally Posted by serfty
The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess...
Q. What are minimum check-in time requirements at LAX?
AA requires arriving a minimum of 45 minutes prior to domestic departures if departing domestically (including Hawai'i, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands) if one has no baggage to check; 60 minutes if one must check baggage; and two hours prior to international departures.

Additionally, AA requires passengers be checked in at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX and "Arrive at the gate and be ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to domestic departure" and 30 minutes prior to international departure. Gates close to boarding 10 minutes prior to departure.

Q. What is the domestic to domestic or domestic to international Minimum Connection Time (MCT)?
The minimum connect time at LAX, domestic to domestic or international, is 0:40 minutes. International to domestic or international MCT is 2:00, but as mentioned previously, this may be insufficient. Note: MCT is generally not waived for international passengers arriving from USCBP pre-clearance airports.

See AA domestic to international MCT from ExpertFlyer Nov 2016 c/o Serfty here.
Q. If I am making an international to international connection, what is the process?

There is no international transit process in nearly all airports in the USA (DFW and MIA have a baggage exception for international to international). Arriving internationally, unless you have been pre-cleared, you must proceed through U. S. immigration (there are kiosks and a fast channel for Global Entry approved passengers), recover your baggage from the baggage carousel and proceed through U. S. Customs.

Upon exiting Customs at TBIT there is a bag drop facility; drop your checked baggage, exit to the landside arrivals area. Pre-cleared passengers arriving at TBIT will bypass USCBP (but most airlines will enforce international to domestic MCT nonetheless).

ALL arrivals are forced landside (you may pass back through security at the TBIT end of the T-4 - TBIT connector) and Terminal 4 is a short walk to your right, Terminal 6 farther; one can board courtesy airport "A" busses and be dropped off very shortly at T-4 or T-5.

NOTE: Whilst most international Arrivals process immigration and customs at TBIT, some arriving at T-4 may walk a long underground passage and process formalities at TBIT. Others may process at T-4, but if you arrive with bags those will be available at TBIT.

There is no Arrivals Loinge for AA or oneworld customers at LAX.

Q. What is AA policy if I have separate tickets and my incoming flight is delayed?
Protection for oneworld world customers travelling on separate bookings:oneworld Global Support

Your oneworld connection is generally not officially protected, but the airline may help you and put you on the next available flight, and AA does generally protect oneworld connections at this time..

If your flights are on the same PNR:

Connecting between airlines at unfamiliar airports can be a stressful experience, especially if your flight is delayed. American Airlines recognizes the impact delays and missed connections can have on your plans and on your life. That is why we partnered with the other oneworld member airlines to form teams of connection experts: oneworld Global Support.

At select airports across the oneworld alliance network, teams are proactively monitoring connecting flights and, whenever possible, they will meet and assist you if your connection is in jeopardy. The oneworld Global Support teams will do their best to allow you to use dedicated fast track lanes through immigration or security to help you catch your next flight. Our teams will also do everything possible to transfer your baggage so that it makes it on time to your final destination.

If you miss your connecting flight, the oneworld Global Support team will provide you with updated travel information, a new boarding pass and, where applicable, assistance with overnight accommodations.

oneworld Global Support is currently available at Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, London Heathrow, Los Angeles, Madrid-Barajas, Miami, New York JFK and Sydney. The service is offered at these airports whenever possible, subject to operational constraints.
See:oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy

Q. Can I check my baggage through?
If you're connecting within the oneworld alliance or airlines with an interline agreement and your connection is under eleven hours, all segments on the same PNR, probably. If over that or with separate PNRs (even within oneworld) airlines without an interline agreements with AA or on separate tickets connecting with non-oneworld airlines, no.

See oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy.

Q. Is there baggage storage at LAX?
No. Since 9/11 most USA airports have eliminated baggage storage, but you can use a baggage storage firm that will pick up, store and return your baggage. You do not have to pre-book, and they are open 24/7: http://www.laxluggagestorage.com. There are $5 pickup, $5 return and storage charges.

WiFi at LAX:
"Internet Access at Los Angeles LAX Airport. LAX Airport offers free internet access, with paid upgrades: Free Wi-Fi service for up to 44 minutes is available in most of the public areas of the Airport - provided by Advanced Wireless Group."

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Other resources
  • Link to AA FAQ: Will I make my connection?
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Old Apr 12, 2019, 1:15 pm
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If you Uber, you can meet at Rideshare E. Your friend should exit T2 lower (arrival) level and use the crosswalk and walk towards to LAX theme building (the round thing in the middle) and continue to T6 which is directly at the end of the road. From there, your friend can go to upper (departure) level and find Rideshare E. This will take about 7 or 8 minutes.

You can just exit T6 upper level and walk towards Rideshare E. This will take about 2 minutes.

Edit: LAX re-labeled the pickup point... T6 pickup is now F not E. See latest map in the link below

https://www.flylax.com/-/media/flylax/ground-transportation/ground-transportation-waiting-areas.ashx?la=en&hash=6A0090921578656CABB9BC5F4DCB 182E9E239198




If you are going to rent a car, just hop on the rental car shuttle bus and meet at the rental car counter. No point trying to meet up at LAX.

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Old Apr 12, 2019, 1:31 pm
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T7 rideshare pickup G (renumbered from F) is faster for pickups due to the cutover from T1 and the ability to be assigned to a rider just dropping off at any terminal. I always walk to T7 for arrivals at any of the south terminals (for north terminals walk to Hyatt).
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Old Apr 19, 2019, 11:01 pm
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Eagle's Nest to T6 Alaska connection

XNA-LAX-SFO is a route I fly several times a month: 2PM AA6022 connecting to AA1253. Sadly the 5:00PM AA1253 seems to be going away on May 3 so there is no longer a valid connection for AA6022. I am nearly always upgraded on AA6022 and I would like to keep using it. I can make this work in May by flying AA6022, arriving at 3:46 and then taking the 5:30 Alaska 933 to SFO. I realize that a misconnect may well result in me buying another LAX-SFO ticket. I'd take the shuttle from the Eagle's nest to T5 and I understand there is a terminal tunnel connection there to T6 where the Alaska flight leaves. Does this seem like a reasonable time to make this connection? Where is the T5-T6 tunnel connection?
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Old Apr 19, 2019, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by wdwright
XNA-LAX-SFO is a route I fly several times a month: 2PM AA6022 connecting to AA1253. Sadly the 5:00PM AA1253 seems to be going away on May 3 so there is no longer a valid connection for AA6022. I am nearly always upgraded on AA6022 and I would like to keep using it. I can make this work in May by flying AA6022, arriving at 3:46 and then taking the 5:30 Alaska 933 to SFO. I realize that a misconnect may well result in me buying another LAX-SFO ticket. I'd take the shuttle from the Eagle's nest to T5 and I understand there is a terminal tunnel connection there to T6 where the Alaska flight leaves. Does this seem like a reasonable time to make this connection? Where is the T5-T6 tunnel connection?
I think the connection is reasonable, and I wouldn't generally sweat it. The tunnel is the same one that connects T5 to T4 and can be accessed via escalators near the T5 admirals club (it's pretty hard to miss). Instead of heading straight at the bottom of the escalators (towards T4), turn right and you'll be heading towards T6.

Also, I would check to see if you can purchase the 5:30 AS flight as a codeshare on the same ticket as AA6022. If so, you'd be protected in case of misconnects.
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Old Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by flyingeph12
I think the connection is reasonable, and I wouldn't generally sweat it. The tunnel is the same one that connects T5 to T4 and can be accessed via escalators near the T5 admirals club (it's pretty hard to miss). Instead of heading straight at the bottom of the escalators (towards T4), turn right and you'll be heading towards T6.

Also, I would check to see if you can purchase the 5:30 AS flight as a codeshare on the same ticket as AA6022. If so, you'd be protected in case of misconnects.
Thanks for the quick reply and the good info. You can buy the AS flight on AA.com with the rest of the trip but it turns a $500 dollar trip into a $1690 trip! Clearly, neither American nor Alaska want to encourage this routing.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by wdwright
Thanks for the quick reply and the good info. You can buy the AS flight on AA.com with the rest of the trip but it turns a $500 dollar trip into a $1690 trip! Clearly, neither American nor Alaska want to encourage this routing.
Ouch! Well in that case, I wouldn’t be too worried about buying separate tickets in this case.

On top of the relatively comfortable connection time, Alaska actually has relatively good standby / same-day change policies, particularly for intra-California flights: standbys are free and confirmed changes are $25.

Finally, I would not hesitate to take the shuttle to T4 if that is the first shuttle that leaves the Eagle’s Nest. That shuttle will drop off right by the tunnel entrance to T5 and ultimately T6.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by wdwright
Thanks for the quick reply and the good info. You can buy the AS flight on AA.com with the rest of the trip but it turns a $500 dollar trip into a $1690 trip! Clearly, neither American nor Alaska want to encourage this routing.
Is the price increase for booking the AS flight as an AA code, or either as an AA code or AS prime?

If the price increase occurs even if the AS flight is booked as prime, one option would be to have a travel agent put the AA and AS flights into the same record, but issue separate tickets. That way you'd pay the separate ticket price but both flights would be in the same record, making protection easier as anyone looking can see you are connecting.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 10:41 am
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It looks like we have a 28 minute connection flying SFO-LAX-SAN. From SAN, we're flying JL to NRT and onto SIN. Although that connection time at LAX seems quite short, especially given we're coming from SFO, I figure if we miss the flight to SAN, there should be lots of other options to get us from LAX to SIN (JL, CX, even QR or BA)??

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Old Apr 20, 2019, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by work2fly
It looks like we have a 28 minute connection flying SFO-LAX-SAN. From SAN, we're flying JL to NRT and onto SIN. Although that connection time at LAX seems quite short, especially given we're coming from SFO, I figure if we miss the flight to SAN, there should be lots of other options to get us from LAX to SIN (JL, CX, even QR or BA)?? 4x J awards, in case that matters.
Unless you are purposely trying to miss your SAN-NRT-SIN flight in hopes of a re-route, don't even think about a 28 minute LAX connection, especially from SFO. I'd call AA and have them move you to an earlier flight. 28 minutes may be legal but in no way sane or advisable. As for your optimism, how do you there would be 4 J seats all the way to SIN that night? On the same flights?
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 11:04 am
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I needed 4x transpac awards about 90 days out, so I took what I could get. I'll look for and set flight alerts for earlier SFO-LAX and later LAX-SAN flights to provide a longer connection. We would love to fly the JL flights we have, I was just thinking of all the places to get stuck and needing a reroute, LAX at 10am would probably be the least worst place.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by work2fly
I needed 4x transpac awards about 90 days out, so I took what I could get. I'll look for and set flight alerts for earlier SFO-LAX and later LAX-SAN flights to provide a longer connection. We would love to fly the JL flights we have, I was just thinking of all the places to get stuck and needing a reroute, LAX at 10am would probably be the least worst place.
I agree that a 28-minute connection is not advisable. That said, it sounds like you would be taking an early morning flight from SFO (given the JL flight from SAN leaves at 1pm). I would be more confident of an on-time departure and arrival for an early morning SFO-LAX flight, and if it’s an Eagle flight, then you wouldn’t have to switch terminals. Couple all of that with the insane padding on SFO-LAX flights (~1hr 40min for a usually less than 1hr flight wheels up to wheels down), and it might not be as critical to change flights (even if it might be advisable).
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by work2fly
It looks like we have a 28 minute connection flying SFO-LAX-SAN. From SAN, we're flying JL to NRT and onto SIN. Although that connection time at LAX seems quite short, especially given we're coming from SFO, I figure if we miss the flight to SAN, there should be lots of other options to get us from LAX to SIN (JL, CX, even QR or BA)??

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SFO-LAX and LAX-SAN are both Eagle flights, using the remote terminal (so-called Eagle's Nest), which is why 28 minutes is legal.

What is your schedule? (I checked EF for SFO-LAX-SAN-NRT for a random day and it didn't even show any 28-minute connections at LAX, so I don't know which flights you are on and hence which later flights are available.) I suggest checking for later flights LAX-SAN. If you land at LAX late and hence miss your flight to SAN, AA should be able to put you on a later one assuming there are later flights you could take.

It's worth setting EF alerts for schedule changes on all your currently booked flights. If either SFO-SAN or SAN-LAX have a schedule change that makes your connection violate MCT (which I think is 35 minutes for Eagle-Eagle) then call AA and they will move you to a different flight. If either has a schedule change that doesn't cause your connection to violate MCT but is still significant (I think 90 minutes change) then agents can move you to a different flight. And of course you can set EF alerts for T or U space to open up.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
SFO-LAX and LAX-SAN are both Eagle flights, using the remote terminal (so-called Eagle's Nest), which is why 28 minutes is legal.
From OP's subsequent post, it's sounds like an early morning SFO-LAX flight which may eliminate the possibility of an earlier flight. f that is the case, I'd consider flying SFO-SAN the night before your SAN-NRT flight. That would eliminate any misconnect risk and also the need to get up at 3am.
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Old Apr 21, 2019, 2:30 am
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Thank you for all of the replies.

Our SFO-LAX is scheduled for 8:01am - 9:40am connecting to LAX-SAN scheduled for 10:08am - 11:03am. Both flights are American Eagle so 25 min MCT at LAX. These flights are in early July, so still fog season, at least where I live on the coast.

Our SAN - NRT flight departs at 1:25pm.

There is an earlier SFO -LAX flight at 6am, with award space, but the 3am wake up isn't very appealing. Flying down to SAN the night before, especially if on an AS non-stop, would be a more palatable option.

I was thinking the short LAX connection could be ideal if everything goes as planned, and if it doesn't, surely there would be a variety of reroute options. I'll take the advice given and reconsider the alternatives.

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Old Apr 21, 2019, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by work2fly
Thank you for all of the replies.

Our SFO-LAX is scheduled for 8:01am - 9:40am connecting to LAX-SAN scheduled for 10:08am - 11:03am. Both flights are American Eagle so 25 min MCT at LAX. These flights are in early July, so still fog season, at least where I live on the coast.

Our SAN - NRT flight departs at 1:25pm.

There is an earlier SFO -LAX flight at 6am, with award space, but the 3am wake up isn't very appealing. Flying down to SAN the night before, especially if on an AS non-stop, would be a more palatable option.

I was thinking the short LAX connection could be ideal if everything goes as planned, and if it doesn't, surely there would be a variety of reroute options. I'll take the advice given and reconsider the alternatives.
Switching to AS will cost you money. If the plane is coming in from LAX that morning, I would be much more concerned about a delay due to fog than if the plane came in the night before.
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