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Old Jun 28, 2015, 2:49 pm
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Airbus A321-200 ETOPS / 321H / A321H to Replace Hawaii Boeing 757-223s

A321 is the stretched version of the A320 family of aircraft. AA is the world's largest operator of A321s with 159 in service, 60 on order. These will replace Boeing 757-223s. The A321 is coded by most sources as "32B", which means any A321 with "Sharklets™" blended wingtip devices. All A321s in fleet and order are technically 32B aircraft, as they all arrive "out of the box" with Sharklets™, giving a range of 3,200 nm.

FWAAA: ...this will be a sub-fleet of 16 321H, presumably with the optional extra fuel tanks (total of 7,935 US gal).
321H: This particular two class A321 variant is ETOPS rated, initially deployed on West Coast-Hawai'i flights to replace the 757. Due to distance / fuel / load and some Hawai'i runway restrictions, some flights have been load and balance restricted / affected (LIH in particular has weight and cross-wind restrictions that can cause ticketed passengers to be "bumped" or occasionally diverted to HNL). These will ultimately be replaced by ETOPS rated Airbus A321neo aircraft.

321S: F16, XE35, Y130.

Seating is pretty much the same as the 321S for non-premium transcon service. See posts from TWA884 and FWAAA (#176 on) for IFE box and seat peculiarities.

The new leather "slimline" articulated "slider" seats include:
  • "Main Cabin Extra*" seats with extra leg room
  • In flight WiFi by GoGo (works only within 90 miles of USA mainland)
  • "Universal" plug 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB power at every seat
  • tilting 8.9" flatscreen IFE with AVOD at every seat** (complimentary in F) with hand controller
    . . . (IFE and power mounted on seat back in front of you)
*: Whilst seats 13 A-B-C are Main Cabin Extra, 13 D-E-F are standard (non-MCE) seats.

Current AA "domestic" WiFi by GoGo as on this aircraft relies on cellular telephony, which restricts operation to within ~90 miles of land.

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Note about flight changes and seat numeration between 757 and 321H /S:
  • 757 F seats are AB, EF
  • A321H F seats are AC, DF
If you a re flying to Hawai'i on a 757:
  • 24 F seats with 52 MCE and 108 "Main Cabin" indicates a LAA 757-223.
  • 14 F recliner seats and no MCE other than exit row seats indicates a legacy US / America West 757-2S7 (these are being retired and replaced by 757-2B7)
  • 12 F seats with old "Envoy" seats and no MCE other than exit row seats indicates a legacy US Airways ("East") 757-2B7 (these are replacing the 757-2S7s to Hawaii)
See here for LUS 757-200 to / from Hawaii thread.

321H replacement of LUS Boeing 752s occurred after Sep 2016 Flight Operations Systems integration.

Updated Oct 2017 - JDiver
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Old Jun 30, 2015, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by JamieABZ
This is why I check my AA bookings daily.
I've never ever known so many time and equipment changes before - plus a polite phone call a few weeks ago asking me to re-route due to overbooking.
I don't really mind, but non-FT'ers must get into some pickles sometimes.
The MyFlights app is watching this reservation for me Although it relies on the BA/AA link working properly since it cannot access the AA system directly
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Old Jun 30, 2015, 8:30 am
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As stated in the wiki, FYI:

Note about flight changes between 757 and A321H (orS):
757 F seats are AB, EF
A321H F seats are AC, DF
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Old Jun 30, 2015, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver
I wonder if selecting a seat number that exists on both aircraft would make it "stick" (too easy - AA would probably not work that way).
My partner has seat 2F on flight 267 on 10/29 and seat 2A on flight 162 on 11/4 (window seats). His seat assignments remained the same even though aircraft type changed. I am on the aisle and my seat assignment changes with change in aircraft.
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Old Jun 30, 2015, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by marnold3
My partner has seat 2F on flight 267 on 10/29 and seat 2A on flight 162 on 11/4 (window seats). His seat assignments remained the same even though aircraft type changed. I am on the aisle and my seat assignment changes with change in aircraft.
My nephew's seat assignment on AA247 LAX-KOA remained with the same seat number he had on the 757, but of course 2E doesn't exist on the A321, so his seat number in the PNR was not reflected in the "select seats" chart until I selected 2D. His fiancée remained in 2F.
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Old Aug 25, 2015, 12:55 am
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Any updates on these in service? Doing some bookings for HNL in a few weeks and all flights to HNL are showing 321s now
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Old Aug 25, 2015, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
Does this have anything to do with AA's recent announcement of delaying deliveries of the A320 family planes (which I believe were mostly slated to be A321s)?
Besides the delivery delays, perhaps AA is going back and forth between the 757 and 32H because of predictions of an El Niño during the 2015-2016 winter:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/14...rantee-end-to/

[and the implication of wind impacting the 32H's on the route during the El Niño]
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Old Aug 31, 2015, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer
Really hoping they do satellite based Internet on these. If they are going to be a dedicated overwater subfleet it would make a lot of sense. I visit friends on Kauai a few times a year and it would be nice to be able to get work done during this long flight.
Has anyone been on one of these recently to HI to see if satellite internet has been installed? My money is on no but would be a nice surprise
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 1:39 pm
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Was on the 298 on Thursday which was a new A321. To be honest except for looking smarter than the B757 and having individual screens, the experience wasn't drastically different to our outbound on the B757.
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Koa flight in First..Oct [752 change to A321H]

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Sorry if this post is in the wrong place...please move if nessasary.

Flying out to Kona on 13th Oct Lax-Koa #247 in First. My res was showing a 757..now its 32b on Seatguru.. Can anyone tell me wot ill be flying on...im assuming its a A 321 but wot will first be like...hopefully better that US's a321??
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Originally Posted by jock
Hi

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place...please move if nessasary.

Flying out to Kona on 13th Oct Lax-Koa #247 in First. My res was showing a 757..now its 32b on Seatguru.. Can anyone tell me wot ill be flying on...im assuming its a A 321 but wot will first be like...hopefully better that US's a321??
Here's your master thread.
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by jock
Hi

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place...please move if nessasary.

Flying out to Kona on 13th Oct Lax-Koa #247 in First. My res was showing a 757..now its 32b on Seatguru.. Can anyone tell me wot ill be flying on...im assuming its a A 321 but wot will first be like...hopefully better that US's a321??
One of the cardinal rules of Flyertalk: never trust SeatGuru.

That said, they actually got it right in this case: a 32B is showing on aa.com (which is the definitive source for such things), and that's what you'll be flying unless there's a last-minute equipment substitution.
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by rjw242
One of the cardinal rules of Flyertalk: never trust SeatGuru.

That said, they actually got it right in this case: a 32B is showing on aa.com (which is the definitive source for such things), and that's what you'll be flying unless there's a last-minute equipment substitution.
The somewhat tricky thing about AA displays is all AA A321s are 32Bs; that just means their A321-200 has Sharklet wingtip devices.

The actual aircraft used is the "A321H" with extra tankage, ETOPS rating and the A321S interior.
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by essexadventurer
Was on the 298 on Thursday which was a new A321. To be honest except for looking smarter than the B757 and having individual screens, the experience wasn't drastically different to our outbound on the B757.

Did you have GoGo?

Thanks

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Old Sep 7, 2015, 10:28 am
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I take the interior is just a standard 2 class. Will the seats in first be the new slimline seats with the new IFE? To be fair..its the return i'm bothered about. Old US 757 into PHX..boohoo
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Old Sep 7, 2015, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by jock
I take the interior is just a standard 2 class. Will the seats in first be the new slimline seats with the new IFE? To be fair..its the return i'm bothered about. Old US 757 into PHX..boohoo
Should be the new seat with IFE - flew the 321S yesturday and I really like the plane ^
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