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JDiver May 1, 2014 8:22 am

oneworld and AA Lounge Access Based on oneworld Status
 
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Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Access Based on oneworld Status

  • oneworld Emerald = AAdvantage Executive Platinum / Chairman's Preferred (First / Flagship and Business lounges on eligible flights)

  • oneworld Sapphire = AAdvantage Platinum / Preferred Gold or Platinum (Business / Admirals Club lounges on eligible flights)

  • oneworld Ruby = AAdvantage Gold / Preferred Silver (no lounge access based solely on status)



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WiscAZ Aug 4, 2014 10:28 am

Hello - I'll be travelling from LAX to SYD on QF in Business class this September. I'm a One World Emerald and also a US (now AA) club member. Will I have access to the Flagship Lounge in T-4 at LAX before my QF flight?

execplatscum Aug 4, 2014 11:12 am

AA/LAN Plat oneworld Benefits - Do kids count? [inc. lounge access]
 
Recently took my family of 5 (me + wife + 3 teens) to Peru traveling on AA and LAN. Some observations about how kids traveling with parents were handled by both AA and LAN.


Admirals Club:
STL - Admirals club lady says my wife counts as plus one but kids under 18 Allowed no problem.
MIA outbound - Admirals club says same...
MIA inbound - Admirals club agent says...well maybe an exception this time but since US Air merger they are getting tighter

Note: honestly I was surprised they let the whole family in.

LAN Club - Contract lounge offered 2 passes only (ie no kids)

Check In:
AA - Used priority/first no issues
LAN - Blocked from using priority check in told that even though family traveling with me on same PNR strictly limited for one world sapphire of member + 1 other. Makes no sense to me.

Priority Boarding:
AA - No problem for all 5.
LAN - Also no problem for all 5.

Traveloguy Aug 4, 2014 11:42 am

FWIW, the QF website suggests that only children under 2 are not counted at oneworld lounges. I realise this is not the AA website, but it is probably the most authoritative quote I can find on this policy:

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...cess/global/en


Originally Posted by QF
1 not counted as guest
Over 2 years will be counted as the member's guest

This obviously suggests that 1 child under 2 won't be counted as a guest at oneworld lounges. Over 2 year old children are counted.

There is a similar quote for AA, but it is a little more relaxed:


Originally Posted by QF
1 (within North America) not counted as guest (under 18)
2 (outside of North America) (under 18)


JDiver Aug 4, 2014 12:23 pm

oneworld lounge access rules:


oneworld lounge access for frequent flyers by tier status

Enjoy exclusive access to premium airport lounges around the world with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire frequent flyer tier status. Members of oneworld airline frequent flyer programmes with the equivalent of oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status can use lounges offered by oneworld airlines when departing on any flight marketed and operated by any oneworld member airline, regardless of cabin class being flown (exceptions are noted below).
  • Emerald tier frequent flyers can use First Class, Business Class or frequent flyer lounges.
  • Sapphire tier frequent flyers are welcome in Business Class* or frequent flyer lounges. (*does not include Qantas Domestic Business Lounges)
  • Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
  • You must be prepared to show your boarding pass and frequent flyer membership card, with oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier status, to access a lounge.

Nothing about family or children here, I'm afraid. It's up to the airline's lounge rules and staff. AA has been pretty family friendly. LAN doesn't mention family in LAN - TAM lounge access rules; they refer to oneworld lounge rules. They also stipulate, for all lounges:


El acceso está sujeto a la capacidad del salón.
(Access is subject to lounge capacity.)
Airlines can, and will, cop out and deny access on this basis.

But it appears to me AA cut you some slack, though Admirals Club can bring two guests and family*, and LAN merely stuck to the rules - you were allowed one guest to the Salón SUMAC / Sumac.


Disfruta junto a un invitado más de 550 salones VIP de LAN y de las aerolíneas de la alianza oneworld. Este beneficio puede ser utilizado por el socio titular (Emerald o Sapphire) y acompañante, sólo si ambos viajan en vuelos operados por LAN o por aerolíneas de la alianza oneworld, sin importar la clase en la que viaje el socio.

Enjoy over 550 lounges operated by LAN and airlines of the oneworld alliance with one guest. This benefit may be used by the statusholder (Emerald or Sapphire) and guest, only when they are traveling on a flight operated by LAN or by oneworld alliance airlines, without regard to the class the statusholder is flying in.
(And, in Lima, they do not have a LAN Club, AFAIK; they use the SUMAQ lounge.)


*Your Membership Privileges include:
...
  • Up to two guests or immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18 years of age) may accompany the member

It's not unusual to see a family with two or three children and both parents in an Admirals Club.

JDiver Aug 4, 2014 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by WiscAZ (Post 23307700)
Hello - I'll be travelling from LAX to SYD on QF in Business class this September. I'm a One World Emerald and also a US (now AA) club member. Will I have access to the Flagship Lounge in T-4 at LAX before my QF flight?

Yes, you will; you will be able to guest in one person also flying. The AA Terminal offers a shuttle bus access to TBIT (and possibly some limited QF flights to SYD still depart T-4?)

Better yet, if returning from SYD, you will have access to the excellent Qantas First lounge - full sit down a la carte meals, and so much more.

execplatscum Aug 4, 2014 1:17 pm

I agree I am lucky to have been allowed to bring everyone in at the admirals club.

What I thought most disconcerting was not being able to check into my to LAN flights with my family on the same reservation using the priority line. That said LAN check in was pretty efficient.

WiscAZ Aug 4, 2014 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 23308413)
Yes, you will; you will be able to guest in one person also flying. The AA Terminal offers a shuttle bus access to TBIT (and possibly some limited QF flights to SYD still depart T-4?)

Better yet, if returning from SYD, you will have access to the excellent Qantas First lounge - full sit down a la carte meals, and so much more.

Ok - great! Will I need to reclear security with the shuttle bus in LAX?

I am returning from SYD and will likely have plenty of time to kill as I have a 1:00 flight home but will have nothing to do that whole morning. Can I access this lounge upon arrival in SYD to take a shower?

Thanks for the response!

serfty Aug 4, 2014 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by WiscAZ (Post 23308862)
... Can I access this lounge upon arrival in SYD to take a shower?

Thanks for the response!

No - it's in a departures only area.

As for your 1pm departure, to allow plenty of time for the Qantas First lounge consider checking in midmorning latest.

JDiver Aug 4, 2014 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by WiscAZ (Post 23308862)
Ok - great! Will I need to reclear security with the shuttle bus in LAX?

I am returning from SYD and will likely have plenty of time to kill as I have a 1:00 flight home but will have nothing to do that whole morning. Can I access this lounge upon arrival in SYD to take a shower?

Thanks for the response!

Shower? "But wait, there's more!" :D


Designed by Qantas Creative Director Marc Newson, the Lounges are exceptional retreats offering unsurpassed levels of comfort, service and luxury, complete with day spa, restaurant, library, private work suites and concierge service. (Great airport views, to boot.)
Flash presentation.

WiscAZ Aug 4, 2014 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 23310061)
Shower? "But wait, there's more!" :D


Flash presentation.

Wow a spa, huh? That is pretty nice!

I'd pass on the spa to be able to take a shower upon arrival haha. I have a full day of meetings when I land.

JDiver Aug 4, 2014 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by WiscAZ (Post 23310177)
Wow a spa, huh? That is pretty nice!

I'd pass on the spa to be able to take a shower upon arrival haha. I have a full day of meetings when I land.

On your return stateside, if at LAX, you will be able to use a shower - the Flagship Lounge has three or four shower suites, iirc, and the Admirals Club has some showers as well.

WiscAZ Aug 4, 2014 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 23310713)
On your return stateside, if at LAX, you will be able to use a shower - the Flagship Lounge has three or four shower suites, iirc, and the Admirals Club has some showers as well.

How about if I am traveling on domestically on QF? I'm not sure if I'll be doing my Sydney portion right away or traveling to Brisbane or Melbourne right away. I will have had the international segment in business and am also a club member. Thanks again for the info, always appreciated.

teemuflyer Aug 4, 2014 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by WiscAZ (Post 23310833)
How about if I am traveling on domestically on QF? I'm not sure if I'll be doing my Sydney portion right away or traveling to Brisbane or Melbourne right away. I will have had the international segment in business and am also a club member. Thanks again for the info, always appreciated.

As OWE, you'll have access to all QF lounges while traveling around the OZ..

ESpen36 Aug 5, 2014 1:01 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 23310061)
Shower? "But wait, there's more!" :D


Flash presentation.


The first time I ever had a professional massage was at the Qantas First lounge at SYD. And then I had a first-rate lunch in the full-service, sit-down restaurant (with 2 dessert courses! why not?).


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