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SJC AA Oct 20, 2015 6:21 am


Originally Posted by aspire (Post 25586610)
Hi. I have OneWorld Emerald (through AirBerlin gold), and I'm an AAdvantage member but do not have status with American. I will be flying SEA-ORD on American, in economy, this Friday. Are there any lounges in Sea-Tac that I will be able to access through my OW status? Thanks!

There's a BA lounge with very limited hours that is not at all convenient to the AA gates. They may or may not let you in (BA is notorious for playing games with lounge rules). Otherwise, it's a fairly nice airport so not a tragedy if you can't get lounge access.

JY1024 Oct 20, 2015 8:48 am


Originally Posted by aspire (Post 25586610)
Hi. I have OneWorld Emerald (through AirBerlin gold), and I'm an AAdvantage member but do not have status with American. I will be flying SEA-ORD on American, in economy, this Friday. Are there any lounges in Sea-Tac that I will be able to access through my OW status? Thanks!


Originally Posted by SJC AA (Post 25589911)
There's a BA lounge with very limited hours that is not at all convenient to the AA gates. They may or may not let you in (BA is notorious for playing games with lounge rules). Otherwise, it's a fairly nice airport so not a tragedy if you can't get lounge access.

SJC AA sums it up pretty nicely. :) But just to add a little more detail... The BA lounge opens at 3pm and closes after the last BA flight leaves. It's all the way over at the S gates, in the same lounge complex/hallway as a Delta lounge and maybe another a lounge. (Sorry, it's been a while since I've been there.)

In theory this is an official BA lounge, so oneworld lounge rules apply (i.e., as a non-AA oneworld elite, you should have access to oneworld lounges when departing on a oneworld marketed/operated flight).

robinhood May 3, 2016 11:59 pm

I am flying international J out of LAX and planning on using the Oneworld lounge. As an AA plat, can I guest someone in who is flying on a domestic AA flight?

matrixwalker2012 May 4, 2016 9:13 am


Originally Posted by robinhood (Post 26574545)
I am flying international J out of LAX and planning on using the Oneworld lounge. As an AA plat, can I guest someone in who is flying on a domestic AA flight?

I don't think intl J has guest privileges.

matrixwalker2012 May 4, 2016 9:21 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 25587362)
Of course, that is if you can get past the staff.

I saw a report yesterday of a BAEC Gold (Emerald) being denied access at TBIT due to being on a 'domestic' ("solely on North American") flight.

There really should be a kiosk computer that handles this. Something very simple:

Access based on OW status:
OW status via AA or not?
If AA, qualifying flight or not?
If qualifying flight: DING, welcome!
If not: go away
Else: DING DING DING, welcome!

Access based on ticket departing LAX:
F class on OW carrier other than AA: ding ding ding, welcome!
F class on AA:
If three cabin, ding ding ding, welcome!

Now that I think of it, AA only sells 3 cabin F fares on JFK and MIA transcons from LAX or international.

Access based on ticket from elsewhere on the itinerary:
Check for Intl F and qualifying time windows, if so, DING DING DING, welcome!

The best thing about a kiosk is that it's consistent. That and to provide a human who knows how to properly read the rules to be there in case the kiosk's programmers screwed up.

The #1 annoyance I hate the most when traveling is dealing with inconsistencies amongst staff members.

JJeffrey May 4, 2016 10:28 am


Originally Posted by matrixwalker2012 (Post 26576157)
I don't think intl J has guest privileges.

Int'l J doesn't in itself allow a guest, but as a PLT (sapphire) the OP can have one guest.

robinhood May 4, 2016 11:05 am


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 26576564)
Int'l J doesn't in itself allow a guest, but as a PLT (sapphire) the OP can have one guest.

Yes, thanks, I was planning to guest them in as an aa platinum/ow sapphire. It says the guest has to be flying a oneworld operated flight. Does it have to be international or would an AA domestic flight work?

matrixwalker2012 May 4, 2016 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by robinhood (Post 26576756)
Yes, thanks, I was planning to guest them in as an aa platinum/ow sapphire. It says the guest has to be flying a oneworld operated flight. Does it have to be international or would an AA domestic flight work?

For guests, it's just any OneWorld flight.

robinhood May 8, 2016 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by matrixwalker2012 (Post 26577487)
For guests, it's just any OneWorld flight.

Ok, so I tried this at the LAX Oneworld business lounge a couple days ago... tried to guest in a friend who happened to be flying out at a similar time but on a different AA flight. I am an AA platinum/ow sapphire flying international J. The lounge dragon insisted that my friend had to be flying on the same flight as me to have lounge access. I told her that this is stated nowhere in the description of lounge benefits for oneworld sapphire members. She claimed she had worked there for a long time and that is how it always has been. After some argument she just let us in as an "exception." Who is right here?

JDiver May 8, 2016 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by robinhood (Post 26596642)
Ok, so I tried this at the LAX Oneworld business lounge a couple days ago... tried to guest in a friend who happened to be flying out at a similar time but on a different AA flight. I am an AA platinum/ow sapphire flying international J. The lounge dragon insisted that my friend had to be flying on the same flight as me to have lounge access. I told her that this is stated nowhere in the description of lounge benefits for oneworld sapphire members. She claimed she had worked there for a long time and that is how it always has been. After some argument she just let us in as an "exception." Who is right here?

There is a link in the wikipost at the top of this page to oneworld lounge access rules, and there's a summary in the wikipost as well. In part:


Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.

mingw May 8, 2016 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by matrixwalker2012 (Post 26576198)
There really should be a kiosk computer that handles this. Something very simple:

why need extra kiosk? dragons should be able just scan the BP and the computer can just tell them grant or deny based on status and travel information.

or this can be done easily on the phone app.

but wait, this is AA? heard their IT guys haven't learnt what's app yet.

robinhood May 8, 2016 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 26596669)
There is a link in the wikipost at the top of this page to oneworld lounge access rules, and there's a summary in the wikipost as well. In part:

Yes, but the issue is, what does this mean? I interpret "must be traveling on a oneworld operated flight" to mean ANY oneworld operated flight. The lounge attendant seemed to interpret it to mean "must be traveling on the same flight." I see nothing in the verbiage to suggest that it has to be the same flight.

teemuflyer May 9, 2016 8:45 am


Originally Posted by robinhood (Post 26596713)
Yes, but the issue is, what does this mean? I interpret "must be traveling on a oneworld operated flight" to mean ANY oneworld operated flight. The lounge attendant seemed to interpret it to mean "must be traveling on the same flight." I see nothing in the verbiage to suggest that it has to be the same flight.

Your interpretation is the correct one, but that doesn't change the unfortunate fact that some lounge dragons disagree..

flymax77 Jun 29, 2016 1:47 pm

Admirals Club "Immediate Family" access experiences - Please Post
 
The official Admiral's club terms say that an Admiral's club member can only bring in:

" Up to two guests or immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18 years of age) may accompany the member"

However, I am wondering if my wife and I are traveling with my two parents - will they allow my parents in?

Parents are "immediate family" according to the widely accepted wikipedia definition:

"The immediate family is a defined group of relations, used in rules or laws to determine which members of a person's family are affected by those rules. It normally includes a person's parents, spouses, siblings, children."

However, the Admirals terms do not mention parents or siblings, so I am worried about if I will be able to bring in 3 people. :confused:

If anybody has any recent 2016 experiences they can share, it would be much appreciated. ^

JJeffrey Jun 29, 2016 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by flymax77 (Post 26848905)
The official Admiral's club terms say that an Admiral's club member can only bring in:

" Up to two guests or immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18 years of age) may accompany the member"

However, I am wondering if my wife and I are traveling with my two parents - will they allow my parents in?

Parents are "immediate family" according to the widely accepted wikipedia definition:

"The immediate family is a defined group of relations, used in rules or laws to determine which members of a person's family are affected by those rules. It normally includes a person's parents, spouses, siblings, children."

However, the Admirals terms do not mention parents or siblings, so I am worried about if I will be able to bring in 3 people. :confused:

If anybody has any recent 2016 experiences they can share, it would be much appreciated. ^

Forget about Wikipedia definitions. All that matters is AA's definition of immediate family, which is spouse/partner or children under 18. So by the rules your parents won't be able to come in.

However, in practice, this always depends on which club, how busy is it, if the AAgent is in a good mood, etc. etc. I certainly have accessed various ACs several times over the years with 3 guests. So I would certainly try, but don't be upset if they say no.


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