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craz May 9, 2019 5:03 am

Thx, everyone for the confirmation and mentioning to go to The Flag over the AC

spycygrl May 9, 2019 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 31082657)
Thx, everyone for the confirmation and mentioning to go to The Flag over the AC

Yes. ALWAYS pick the Flagship Lounge, if you can. DIY cocktails with premium alcohol and mixers (+ French champagne and decent wine), hot & cold food buffet, more spacious and nicer seating (including a quiet lounge).

cbrown5294 Aug 22, 2019 8:36 pm

Flying in a few weeks from LAX-JFK-LHR. All in Y waitlist for BC
My LAX-JFK flight is at 1230 am with a 13 hr layover in JFK. Technically my LAX-JFK departs the same day as the JFK-LHR flight (1040PM)
I should have access to the QF First lounge correct?

Iam Ex Plat / Emerald traveling with one companion

joe_miami Sep 11, 2019 5:36 pm

Does an AA ExPlat/OneWorld Emerald traveling, e.g., LAX-CUN or MIA-SDQ have access to OneWorld lounges except for Admirals Clubs or does the person have no lounge access at all unless in J or F (under the non-MEX Mexico/Bahamas/Bermuda/Caribbean rule)? Thanks.

JJeffrey Sep 11, 2019 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by joe_miami (Post 31515649)
Does an AA ExPlat/OneWorld Emerald traveling, e.g., LAX-CUN or MIA-SDQ have access to OneWorld lounges except for Admirals Clubs or does the person have no lounge access at all unless in J or F (under the non-MEX Mexico/Bahamas/Bermuda/Caribbean rule)? Thanks.

AA status holders (EXP/PLT Pro/PLT) do not get any lounge access benefits when traveling solely on US/Canada/Mexico/Caribbean itineraries (except for MEX). Business class alone on US/Canada/Mexico/Caribbean does not grant any lounge access either (except for the 3 class transcons and MEX). Not sure exactly what you mean but business class on LAX-CUN or MIA-SDQ does not come with any lounge access.

The above is true for all lounges...Admirals Clubs, oneworld lounges, etc.

joe_miami Sep 11, 2019 8:23 pm


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 31515785)
AA status holders (EXP/PLT Pro/PLT) do not get any lounge access benefits when traveling solely on US/Canada/Mexico/Caribbean itineraries (except for MEX). Business class alone on US/Canada/Mexico/Caribbean does not grant any lounge access either (except for the 3 class transcons and MEX). Not sure exactly what you mean but business class on LAX-CUN or MIA-SDQ does not come with any lounge access.

The above is true for all lounges...Admirals Clubs, oneworld lounges, etc.

Thanks. Compared to Star Alliance Gold lounge access, that's rather lame.

I thought pax in premium cabins got lounge access for such itineraries while those using their OneWorld status didn't. Turns out it's even more restrictive than I thought.

railhog Feb 15, 2020 6:24 pm

One world lounge
 
Hi
I was gifted AA Plat. Pro till April and have an upcoming flight on JAL in coach. I understand I should have One World lounge access, but do I need a card,show status on app or will it be on my boardin pass?
Thanks

JJeffrey Feb 15, 2020 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by railhog (Post 32076617)
Hi
I was gifted AA Plat. Pro till April and have an upcoming flight on JAL in coach. I understand I should have One World lounge access, but do I need a card,show status on app or will it be on my boardin pass?
Thanks

Assuming your AA number is on the reservation then your boarding pass is all you need.

pbd456 Feb 15, 2020 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by joe_miami (Post 31516051)
Thanks. Compared to Star Alliance Gold lounge access, that's rather lame.

I thought pax in premium cabins got lounge access for such itineraries while those using their OneWorld status didn't. Turns out it's even more restrictive than I thought.


UA elite never have lounge access to domestic trips.

All skyteam elite plus don't get access if travel within same countries.

guv1976 Feb 15, 2020 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 32076696)
UA elite never have lounge access to domestic trips.

All skyteam elite plus don't get access if travel within same countries.

But oneworld Sapphires and Emeralds from programs other than AAdvantage do get lounge access whenever they fly AA -- even in Coach on domestic flights.

JDiver Feb 16, 2020 11:44 am


Originally Posted by joe_miami (Post 31515649)
Does an AA ExPlat/OneWorld Emerald traveling, e.g., LAX-CUN or MIA-SDQ have access to OneWorld lounges except for Admirals Clubs or does the person have no lounge access at all unless in J or F (under the non-MEX Mexico/Bahamas/Bermuda/Caribbean rule)? Thanks.


American Airlines Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligble for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. — AA


The exception is if you’re traveling in F or J on certain transcontinental flights where there are three classes of service sold. Usually, A321Ts between JFK and LAX or SFO.

Qantas Club members have some restrictions as well, due to paid membership. In the US, paid Club membership came about after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted. Admirals Club was somewhat like CK in that membership was granted by AA, to VIPs who were generally influencers of air travel (legislators, corporate heavyweights, etc.) and sparse of people of color, etc. US airlines established a paid membership system any member of the public was able to purchase. Several also chose not to change to a scheme more commonly used abroad wherein class of service is an admission criterion regardless of domestic or international routing.

See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...logo-name.html

chuck1 Feb 17, 2020 12:13 pm

So just to confirm traveling LAX-PVR in paid J, Emerald AA - no lounge access at LAX - specifically the QF F lounge in TBIT?
I'm confused because what I see on all the AA pages says no where but MEX counts but this is what I see on the Oneworld page for the QF F LAX Lounge.

Based on this, I would assume no, however we are on a through fare JFK-LAX in F arriving the night before. The LAX-PVR departs the next day well after 6am.

For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
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  1. Non AAdvantage oneworld Emerald travelling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
  2. AAdvantage Executive Platinum travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  3. First Class passengers travelling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  4. Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international short haul or domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
  5. First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
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* A "North American* Itinerary" is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.

JJeffrey Feb 17, 2020 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by chuck1 (Post 32082600)
So just to confirm traveling LAX-PVR in paid J, Emerald AA - no lounge access at LAX - specifically the QF F lounge in TBIT?
I'm confused because what I see on all the AA pages says no where but MEX counts but this is what I see on the Oneworld page for the QF F LAX Lounge.

Access

  • First Class
  • Emerald Tier

Airlines

  • Qantas
  • Access for eligible customers traveling on any oneworld member airline.

Correct, no lounge access for an AA EXP flying LAX-PVR (in any class, including business).

If your LAX-PVR flight was the same day as your JFK-LAX flight then you would have access based on your same day qualifying JFK-LAX flight. You can try to talk your way in based on this, but I would expect to be denied, again given that your qualifying flight was the day before. YMMV though, some agents don't strictly enforce the same day stuff.

Looking at the oneworld lounge pages, that is just the standard terms that appear, as an EXP flying LAX-PVR you are not an eligible customer, so no access. Additionally at the bottom of the oneworld lounge page the standard exceptions are listed, including the following:


American Airlines Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligble for lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Carribean.

CalAlumnus13 Feb 19, 2020 12:20 pm

I'm a AA Platinum. I'll be flying SJC-CDG, via DFW, in Premium Economy. I booked with BA flight numbers, but all flights are on AA metal.

Will I have access to the SJC Oneworld lounge "The Club at SJC"? The Oneworld directory says only customers flying on British Airways are eligible for access.

JJeffrey Feb 19, 2020 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by CalAlumnus13 (Post 32090545)
I'm a AA Platinum. I'll be flying SJC-CDG, via DFW, in Premium Economy. I booked with BA flight numbers, but all flights are on AA metal.

Will I have access to the SJC Oneworld lounge "The Club at SJC"? The Oneworld directory says only customers flying on British Airways are eligible for access.

No lounge access at SJC as that is a 3rd party lounge, only eligible customers departing on the BA SJC-LHR flight would have access.


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