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This is the archive for posts relating to Business Extra (nee Business ExtrAA) since 2008.
The current, active Business Extra thread is Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
The current, active Business Extra thread is Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
Sep 10, 2012, 5:37 pm
#377
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP (2.5MM), Hilton Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,859
Ugh, I only now read the details on the BXP3 upgrade option. Didn't realize it didn't apply to the low fares. Seems rough to only allow within 30 days and also require a higher fare. Maybe I'll need to find another way to cash in my points since I have a number expiring in December.
Sep 10, 2012, 8:38 pm
#378
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,067
Ugh, I only now read the details on the BXP3 upgrade option. Didn't realize it didn't apply to the low fares. Seems rough to only allow within 30 days and also require a higher fare. Maybe I'll need to find another way to cash in my points since I have a number expiring in December.
Is there a list anywhere of what classes the awards use? Then I can at least look at ExpertFlyer and get and idea of what to hold.
Sep 10, 2012, 10:15 pm
#379
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: STL
Programs: AA 2MM, AS MVP Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 12,966
Sep 10, 2012, 10:54 pm
#380
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,535
Has anyone done any math on the value of the various awards?
Sep 10, 2012, 11:20 pm
#381
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: AA EXP, HYATT DIA
Posts: 276
I have just used mine for AC Membership.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Sep 11, 2012, 1:37 am
#382
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, AS MVPG, HH Diamond, NCL Platinum Plus, MSC Diamond
Posts: 21,422
Day pass = $50
I haven't given much thought to the others.
I can't equate the upgrade value, because the fare range is limited
Award tickets vary in $$ cost if purchase, so that is impossible to value in advance.
For 3000 points you can get an AC membership
For 3 1/3 times that, you can get a first class ticket to Europe, Asia, or SA2
I know which I prefer to use the 10K for
I haven't given much thought to the others.
I can't equate the upgrade value, because the fare range is limited
Award tickets vary in $$ cost if purchase, so that is impossible to value in advance.
For 3000 points you can get an AC membership
For 3 1/3 times that, you can get a first class ticket to Europe, Asia, or SA2
I know which I prefer to use the 10K for
Sep 11, 2012, 1:05 pm
#383
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PLT, Natl EC
Posts: 10,855
See the first post of this thread for the inventory classes into which BE travel awards and upgrade awards book. Note that the awards do expire once redeemed after 12-18 months (assuming you redeem in Dec).
Sep 11, 2012, 10:35 pm
#384
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: ORD
Programs: AA(xPLT now GLD), UA, DL, HH(GLD), MR(GLD), HY(DIS), and others...
Posts: 141
Didn't read the fine print or this thread soon enough
I redeemed expiring BE points for the BXP1 domestic segment upgrade last year and set the certificate aside for a "rainy day".
I went ahead and bought an ORD-LAX ticket for mid-October two months ago and today started thinking about applying the upgrade. I noticed that the upgrade could only be booked 30 days before the flight or later ("Within 30 days prior to departure").
When I called the Meeting Services desk to inquire exactly how to do this, the agent nicely pointed out to me that since my ticket was booked in Q, it was not eligible. (She did offer to book an eligible class ticket for me for the $150 change fee plus the fare difference. I declined that generous offer.)
So, I now have a BXP1 one segment upgrade which is good through 12/31/12 and which I foresee no opportunity to use. I can't have the points replaced in my account, of course. So, the best I can do might be to offer this certificate to someone who might want it because it has value to them.
<redacted offer>
I'm open for ideas <redacted>.
Thanks,
Eric
I went ahead and bought an ORD-LAX ticket for mid-October two months ago and today started thinking about applying the upgrade. I noticed that the upgrade could only be booked 30 days before the flight or later ("Within 30 days prior to departure").
When I called the Meeting Services desk to inquire exactly how to do this, the agent nicely pointed out to me that since my ticket was booked in Q, it was not eligible. (She did offer to book an eligible class ticket for me for the $150 change fee plus the fare difference. I declined that generous offer.)
So, I now have a BXP1 one segment upgrade which is good through 12/31/12 and which I foresee no opportunity to use. I can't have the points replaced in my account, of course. So, the best I can do might be to offer this certificate to someone who might want it because it has value to them.
<redacted offer>
I'm open for ideas <redacted>.
Thanks,
Eric
Last edited by JDiver; Sep 12, 2012 at 11:00 am Reason: offers for barter, sale, purchase or exchange prohibited here
Sep 12, 2012, 7:43 am
#385
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dallas
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, IHG Spire, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, National Executive Elite
Posts: 1,523
Eric, if you are looking to gift it, I'll gladly take it. I take fairly long hauls in higher buckets from DFW often.
If you are suggesting selling or trading, that absolutely is against the T&Cs of BusinessExtraa awards. Think of it as a lesson learned. I use mine for free flights or AC membership.
If you are suggesting selling or trading, that absolutely is against the T&Cs of BusinessExtraa awards. Think of it as a lesson learned. I use mine for free flights or AC membership.
Originally Posted by echoch:19299223
I redeemed expiring BE points for the BXP1 domestic segment upgrade last year and set the certificate aside for a "rainy day".
I went ahead and bought an ORD-LAX ticket for mid-October two months ago and today started thinking about applying the upgrade. I noticed that the upgrade could only be booked 30 days before the flight or later ("Within 30 days prior to departure").
When I called the Meeting Services desk to inquire exactly how to do this, the agent nicely pointed out to me that since my ticket was booked in Q, it was not eligible. (She did offer to book an eligible class ticket for me for the $150 change fee plus the fare difference. I declined that generous offer.)
So, I now have a BXP1 one segment upgrade which is good through 12/31/12 and which I foresee no opportunity to use. I can't have the points replaced in my account, of course. So, the best I can do might be to offer this certificate to someone who might want it because it has value to them.
<redacted>
I'm open for ideas, <redacted>.
Thanks,
Eric
I went ahead and bought an ORD-LAX ticket for mid-October two months ago and today started thinking about applying the upgrade. I noticed that the upgrade could only be booked 30 days before the flight or later ("Within 30 days prior to departure").
When I called the Meeting Services desk to inquire exactly how to do this, the agent nicely pointed out to me that since my ticket was booked in Q, it was not eligible. (She did offer to book an eligible class ticket for me for the $150 change fee plus the fare difference. I declined that generous offer.)
So, I now have a BXP1 one segment upgrade which is good through 12/31/12 and which I foresee no opportunity to use. I can't have the points replaced in my account, of course. So, the best I can do might be to offer this certificate to someone who might want it because it has value to them.
<redacted>
I'm open for ideas, <redacted>.
Thanks,
Eric
Last edited by JDiver; Sep 12, 2012 at 11:00 am Reason: redacted previously deleted post content
Sep 12, 2012, 11:03 am
#386
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Matre-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,946
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A reminder: buying, selling, bartering of various instruments is prohibited by AA's various Terms and Conditions, and offers to do so are prohibited here.
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Sep 16, 2012, 8:19 am
#387
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: DFW Metroplex
Posts: 29
Anybody have an idea of the FMV of a Business Extraa Point? I just won 30,000 of them in a contest and I'm going to have to pay tax on them and need to know how to value them.
Sep 16, 2012, 9:38 am
#388
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,067
In any event, nice win! That's 3 F RTs to Europe, if you PlanAAhead.
Sep 16, 2012, 10:19 am
#389
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
Programs: Lifetime Executive Diamond Platinum VIP with Braniff, Eastern, Midway, National & Pan Am
Posts: 17,501
The same D49 T class award is 2,000 BX points or 25,000 AAdv miles. So your 30,000 BX points are worth the same as 375,000 AAdv miles using that methodology.
Sep 16, 2012, 1:42 pm
#390
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PLT, Natl EC
Posts: 10,855
However, BE points expire. I would consult your tax advisor.