Skipped Over for / Lost Upgrade: "Late to Gate", Upgrades Already Processed
#31
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Also, nobody wants to delay a flight because of GA's chasing down people to clear upgrades. The GA's work hard enough clearing upgrades, boarding passengers, and helping to ensure flights get out on time!!
It's our responsibility to be around when it's time for our name to be called.
Cheers.
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+1.
Also, nobody wants to delay a flight because of GA's chasing down people to clear upgrades. The GA's work hard enough clearing upgrades, boarding passengers, and helping to ensure flights get out on time!!
It's our responsibility to be around when it's time for our name to be called.
Cheers.
Also, nobody wants to delay a flight because of GA's chasing down people to clear upgrades. The GA's work hard enough clearing upgrades, boarding passengers, and helping to ensure flights get out on time!!
It's our responsibility to be around when it's time for our name to be called.
Cheers.
I would rather AA issue the upgrades as they should be and then at T-10min bump up that one flyer or have the FA move up the flyer.
Being bypassed on the list because your not at the boarding gate is a little bit of a slap in the face especially if your late because of the airline.
In the OPs case well he was late to the gate because of his own poor time management and planning.
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It's been my experience that the GAs hold the last UPG until T-15 - usually when ZONE 2 or higher has already been called. I've loitered at the counter when I knew I was #1 and there may be an F no show or misconnect. Or they will do the UPG call right before boarding.
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How long does one have- based on published rules, CoC, or what have you- to respond to an agent before you can lose your upgrade?
I mean we know you have to be at the gate by t-10 (?) or you lose your seat. But can an agent clear upgrades at say t-30, and give a minute or two, and be done by t-25?
I mean we know you have to be at the gate by t-10 (?) or you lose your seat. But can an agent clear upgrades at say t-30, and give a minute or two, and be done by t-25?
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Another point is that OP was traveling with someone else. So, if he was walking at a snails pace, he could have always had his traveling companion go to the gate ahead of him to deal with the GA/Upgrade.
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OP was never late to the gate. I arrived as first class was boarding.
Since the person travelling with me is new to travelling, no point in sending them ahead as they would not have known what to do.
The whole point of this is that AA should issue the upgrade and then wait to see if that person accepts it in time or not. They shouldn't be skipping people in advance because they don't hear their name over the loud speaker or make it within the GAs time frame.
Since the person travelling with me is new to travelling, no point in sending them ahead as they would not have known what to do.
The whole point of this is that AA should issue the upgrade and then wait to see if that person accepts it in time or not. They shouldn't be skipping people in advance because they don't hear their name over the loud speaker or make it within the GAs time frame.
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#39
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OP was never late to the gate. I arrived as first class was boarding.
Since the person travelling with me is new to travelling, no point in sending them ahead as they would not have known what to do.
The whole point of this is that AA should issue the upgrade and then wait to see if that person accepts it in time or not. They shouldn't be skipping people in advance because they don't hear their name over the loud speaker or make it within the GAs time frame.
Since the person travelling with me is new to travelling, no point in sending them ahead as they would not have known what to do.
The whole point of this is that AA should issue the upgrade and then wait to see if that person accepts it in time or not. They shouldn't be skipping people in advance because they don't hear their name over the loud speaker or make it within the GAs time frame.
The title of the thread says late for gate, and the above reply says you weren't late to the gate.
I also can't figure out how you could possibly hear your name called @ lax while standing at or around gate 41 (info you gave in your first post) -- gate 48 is very far away and pages over head in that area (gates 46-49) of the terminal are normally isolated in that area. Gate 41 is right after TSa checkin. 48 is at far end of terminal.
Where exactly were you when your heard your name called?
You arrived at first class boarding? Where exactly? into the terminal near 41 or actually at gate 48?
If you were indeed at gate 41 when your name was called, forget it. You'll never make it in time - ankle injury or not.
Cheers.
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Is it still ok to express an opinion that the OP is more than likely entirely in the wrong (on this one), and should perhaps get a better understanding of how things work BEFORE he/she/it overreaches and over embellishes the next imaginary crime and tries to throw their imaginary weight around, again?
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The OP's original thread title was "Denied Upgrade Because of Disability," which caused a hue and cry because some deemed it misleading, inaccurate and inflammatory.
The OP wasn't "late" to the gate meaning their seat assignment and reservation were subject to cancellation, but the OP was "late" to the gate in terms of claiming their upgraded boarding pass.
I don't know what AA's rules and policies are in this area, but in my extensive experience, if you're hoping for a battlefield upgrade, it behooves you to be near the gate when your name is called. Not in the club. Not in the bathroom. Not at the other end of the terminal when an injury means you "walk at a snail's pace."
if you're really hoping to exchange your boarding pass for an upgraded seat at the gate, the best advice is to be at the gate about when the agent shows up so that you don't miss out on those announcements. And that isn't all that difficult these days as the agents rarely show up more than 15-20 minutes before the boarding time (shown on your boarding pass). It's not like the old days when agents might show up to manually change the flight number and destination 2-3 hours before departure.
For those who simply can't be at the gate 15-20 minutes before boarding is scheduled, you'll probably find that your battlefield upgrades go to the next name on the list. Maybe the agent won't skip over you, but if they do, I don't think you have anything about which to complain.
I doubt that anyone in AA management could possibly care less about the OP's predicament, but the OP can certainly plead their case and then report back if I'm mistaken.
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I'd be interested in hearing the responses from the other employees at his company. You know - those who have been flying AA, pretty much happy with the service, collecting Aadvantage miles, working for elite status. Suddenly because the boss doesn't get an upgrade due to his own failure to get to the gate on time, all that is swept away. The employees all have to start new with another airline (one that similarly might deny an upgrade due to someone's own failure to get to the gate on time), 0 miles balance, no elite status.
#44
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It doesn't look like the upgrade went unused; it just went to someone else.
There's probably someone out there (maybe even on FT) saying, "All the upgrades were already taken and I was next on the list -- but then a name ahead of mine no-showed and they gave the UG to me."
Win some, lose some.
There's probably someone out there (maybe even on FT) saying, "All the upgrades were already taken and I was next on the list -- but then a name ahead of mine no-showed and they gave the UG to me."
Win some, lose some.
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If true, then the road warriors, inside the company and out, who do the real BIS, already see him/her/it for what he/she/it is.