Dec 5, 2014, 11:27 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: Changed flight numbers from 137 / 138 to AA 125 / 126 Nov 2016
This thread is for the discussion of upgrades (using systemwide upgrades /SWUs or mileage+ copay) for the DFW-HKG route.
General discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes can be found here: DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Starting Summer 2014 [route discussion]
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
DFW-HKG AA 125 / 126 77W Upgrade Chances & Waitlist Discussion
Oct 8, 2014, 3:04 pm
#166
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 231
I noticed the same thing and also that all of the Z and U inventory are gone too. I had held a Z award for 2 pax and was looking for C for 2 paid pax. I can't gamble on the SWUs not clearing so if it doesn't show up before the award hold expires I guess the trip is off. My family will be disappointed. Add me to the group that whines "my SWUs are too hard to use..."
Oct 8, 2014, 7:38 pm
#167
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ORD, LAS
Programs: AA-EXP, BAEC Silver, Hyatt-Globalist, Hilton-gold, SPG-gold
Posts: 855
I'm praying this flight isn't as bad as everyone is saying it isn't (HKG)....my odds look worse everyday. Question for other EXPs: I know wine/beer are free for all but will the Y FAs keep the cocktails coming for EXPs? That's the only way I can get through Y on such a long flight.
Oct 9, 2014, 8:53 am
#169
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
I noticed the same thing and also that all of the Z and U inventory are gone too. I had held a Z award for 2 pax and was looking for C for 2 paid pax. I can't gamble on the SWUs not clearing so if it doesn't show up before the award hold expires I guess the trip is off. My family will be disappointed. Add me to the group that whines "my SWUs are too hard to use..."
Oct 9, 2014, 10:56 am
#170
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 231
Oct 10, 2014, 8:47 am
#172
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: FLL
Programs: AAdvantage EXP
Posts: 132
What are the upgrade options for these flights without SWU's?
In particular I'm going to PVG at the end of the month.
I know there's miles + copay, which I think is 350 or 450 with 25K miles.
One time I sat next to an EXP she said that sometimes when lots of J seats are open you can just pay $750 period. Which I guess is the same amount of value as the above anyway.
Is there a miles only option? I think I've heard people talk about that, but has anyone done it on these Asian flights, how many miles? Like 50K?
Also, are any of these options prioritized above other options?
In particular I'm going to PVG at the end of the month.
I know there's miles + copay, which I think is 350 or 450 with 25K miles.
One time I sat next to an EXP she said that sometimes when lots of J seats are open you can just pay $750 period. Which I guess is the same amount of value as the above anyway.
Is there a miles only option? I think I've heard people talk about that, but has anyone done it on these Asian flights, how many miles? Like 50K?
Also, are any of these options prioritized above other options?
Oct 10, 2014, 9:33 am
#173
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
Option 1...Miles + copay to PVG is 25k miles + $350.
Option 2...if you're on a full fare economy (Y or B), it's only 15k miles (no copay).
Option 3...if J is particularly open, or AA is oversold in coach, they will sometimes offer a LFBU (load factor based upgrade). These are $$ only, the amount varies by route. Generally only offered at the kiosks in the US, although they're sometimes available through the check-in AAgents or Admirals Clubs at foreign stations.
Other than the full fare economy, there's no miles only upgrade option. An award ticket to PVG in J is 55k miles each way.
SWUs and miles/copay are prioritized the same up until the upgrade list goes to airport control. LFBUs are only offered if there's no one on the upgrade waitlist.
Option 2...if you're on a full fare economy (Y or B), it's only 15k miles (no copay).
Option 3...if J is particularly open, or AA is oversold in coach, they will sometimes offer a LFBU (load factor based upgrade). These are $$ only, the amount varies by route. Generally only offered at the kiosks in the US, although they're sometimes available through the check-in AAgents or Admirals Clubs at foreign stations.
Other than the full fare economy, there's no miles only upgrade option. An award ticket to PVG in J is 55k miles each way.
SWUs and miles/copay are prioritized the same up until the upgrade list goes to airport control. LFBUs are only offered if there's no one on the upgrade waitlist.
Oct 10, 2014, 9:50 am
#174
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: FLL
Programs: AAdvantage EXP
Posts: 132
Option 1...Miles + copay to PVG is 25k miles + $350.
Option 2...if you're on a full fare economy (Y or B), it's only 15k miles (no copay).
Option 3...if J is particularly open, or AA is oversold in coach, they will sometimes offer a LFBU (load factor based upgrade). These are $$ only, the amount varies by route. Generally only offered at the kiosks in the US, although they're sometimes available through the check-in AAgents or Admirals Clubs at foreign stations.
Other than the full fare economy, there's no miles only upgrade option. An award ticket to PVG in J is 55k miles each way.
SWUs and miles/copay are prioritized the same up until the upgrade list goes to airport control. LFBUs are only offered if there's no one on the upgrade waitlist.
Option 2...if you're on a full fare economy (Y or B), it's only 15k miles (no copay).
Option 3...if J is particularly open, or AA is oversold in coach, they will sometimes offer a LFBU (load factor based upgrade). These are $$ only, the amount varies by route. Generally only offered at the kiosks in the US, although they're sometimes available through the check-in AAgents or Admirals Clubs at foreign stations.
Other than the full fare economy, there's no miles only upgrade option. An award ticket to PVG in J is 55k miles each way.
SWUs and miles/copay are prioritized the same up until the upgrade list goes to airport control. LFBUs are only offered if there's no one on the upgrade waitlist.
Oct 10, 2014, 11:13 am
#175
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Multiple locations
Programs: AAdvantage ExPlat LT Gold, BA Silver, Aegean Star Gold
Posts: 5,038
33 upgrade requests on the DFW-HKG today including 4 EXPs.
Seems like it was oversold and they needed two volunteers.
Got my upgrade at the gate after being waitlisted since January.
Seems like it was oversold and they needed two volunteers.
Got my upgrade at the gate after being waitlisted since January.
Oct 10, 2014, 11:23 am
#176
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: WAS
Posts: 1,626