dgilligan02

I was legit going to ask a question about likelihood of getting signup bonus on Aviator Red if I've previously had card (most recently closed in Aug 2019)...and prior post has comment on this exact subject. Love Flyertalk!

So instead...any data points on how charitable Barclay's has been on approving "individual sole proprietorships" =) for the Aviator World Business Elite MC these days (most recently closed Dec 2020)?

Thinking maybe try and double dip for the 60K on Aviator Red + 80K on Aviator World Business Elite.

Drwaz99

As the poster quoted above, my experience was kinda close to a double-dip. In my most recent example (April of last year) I applied for the Red card in April and then applied for my second Aviator Business in early May (about 2 weeks apart). I wasn't insta-approved for the business card but 10min after applying an analyst called me, asked me a few questions about my sole-prop, and told me I was at max exposure with Barclays (they approved me for 30k on the Red) but I could pull whatever amount I wanted from my Red card to open the business card and he'd approve it.

If your credit is good and you don't have a ton of new accounts opened in the last 24 months (Barclays has a soft 6/24 rule they sometimes quote for a denial reason), I'm sure you have a good chance.

mikeFT

I've had my current Aviator Red card since August of '22 and I now see an Upgrade offer available to go to Silver. I'm not positive it's worth it to me to do so, but I have a couple questions folks might be able to answer:

1) Is there a time limit to how long the offer will remain available to me? Do they disappear after a while if you don't accept?
2) If I accept the upgrade, will the new AF hit on the first new billing cycle or will it wait until the 1 year card anniversary (I've read that the card number and expiration date remain the same as the Red account).

If the AF does hit right away, and the offer won't expire, I don't see why I wouldn't wait until right before the 1-year anniversary before upgrading. But if the AF waits until the anniversary month, then I may as well upgrade while the offer is here.

3) Has anyone been approved for a new Red card and received the SUB while holding an active Silver card? I think the 60k SUB on Red is worth more to me than the benefits of Silver so I don't want to negate that option in the future by holding the Silver.

Thanks for any input on the above.

As a DP to offer, I have had the Aviator Red a number of times (three times so far at least?), and I have always gotten the SUB when qualifying on each new card. I always waited two years between card closing and new card application, and it's always worked. I no longer see any reference to a 2-year wait period, but I thought that was the requirement in the past. The language is a lot more vague now.

dgilligan02

Follow-up on this for community data points.

I applied for both the Aviator Biz and Personal. Got approved for the Biz after Barclay called me to verify info (I have extended fraud alert on my account after identify theft incident in 2015, so this is par for the course). Got denied on the Personal initially, letter received in the mail stated a need to verify information...called in and was approved after running through the hoops to verify identity.

Player 2 also applied for both Aviator Biz and Personal. Auto approval on the Biz. Reviewal status on the Personal...email of approval a few hours later.

So, ultimately 4/4 on approvals.

For reference both of our "businesses" are very low revenue sole proprietorship's with 1 employee established 5 years ago.

AirborneLocksmith

I recently opened an Aviator Red card account.
Is there a way to see online when the statement date is? I'm looking to start using the card to accumulate LPs for next qualification cycle (3/1/23 - 2/29/24), and I therefore wouldn't want the current billing cycle to close and LPs post before 3/1/23. But I can't figure out how to see the statement date (which day of the month) online.

Drwaz99

From a desktop, sign in and go to "Activity and Statements" then click on "Statements" and it lists it there. If it's a brand new account and you haven't had a statement close yet, you may need to call or send a secure message (I can't remember if it lists it when the account it new).

Dynastar

New annual fee does not hit until anniversary. I'm sure the offer will go away eventually but I don't think there are any firm data points.

aztimm

My card always uses the posting date, regardless of when the statement date happens to fall. It has been like this as long as I've had the Barclay card (with AA, and before that US).

AirborneLocksmith

So when the miles are sent from Barclays to AA, they are tagged with the posting date of the associated CC charge rather than Barclays sending a large batch to AA once a month and tagging all miles with the statement closing date? I guess Barclays works different than Chase and Citi, which both send a batch with all miles earned in a month to AA shortly after the cc statement closing date and the miles are tagged with the statement closing date.

aztimm

I'm just sharing how it has worked for me over the past ~15 years of having the Barclay card. Perhaps this year will be different.

Drwaz99

I think there's some confusion here. Barclays doesn't batch everyone's miles together, send them together and date them your closing date. They are usually sent a day or two after your statement close date and the miles are dated the day your statement closes (or when they send them if a weekend). Not the day of the individual charge.

For example:
-My Aviator Red's January statement closed 1/19/23 - all my miles from 12/20/22-1/19/23 posted to my account dated 1/19/23
- My Aviator Business card statement closed 1/20/23 - all the miles for that period posted dated 1/20/23

Gaucho100K

Thanks for sharing your data points. I applied for the Aviator Business Card and got a "review status" on the auto-decision. My LLC is a sole proprietorship and still very new (began operations 19 months ago), so I assume they pulled my personal credit (740 to 760 scores on the big 3 credit bureaus, but limited credit history). I still havent heard back from Barclays, my original application was submitted online on Feb 5th - so 3 days ago.

Would appreciate any tips/experiences others have had with speaking with someone at Barclays. Should the application end up being rejected - does Barclays have a reconsideration process that I should look into...?

Thanks again !!

Drwaz99

Mine went pending when I applied, although someone called me pretty quickly after and asked just a few basic question about my business. I was approved but at max credit they were going to extend to me so I just has to pull some from my personal card. You can always call them and ask if they need anymore information: 866-408-4064 or 866-710-2688 8AM-8PM ET

Fanjet

Just as a data point. I received the upgrade offer a couple of weeks ago. I had already paid my $99 AF, as my anniversary is in December and the AF posted at the end of that month, and was on my January closing statement. I was concerned about being charged twice for the AF, but when the T&Cs for the offer were displayed in a pop-up window, it stated that the $199 AF would post on or after 12/31/23. It also stated that the silver status would come into effect at the start of my February billing cycle. So, it looks like I wll be receiving the silver benefits gratis for around 10-11 months.

la2clt

Not sure if this belongs here or in the WiFi thread. I hadn’t used my WiFi credits from the silver card so I bought it on a flight in December. Historically, the credits kick in a few days after posting. After a few weeks, I called, and they said AA changed “providers”…not sure if it’s their merchant provider because Panasonic has been around a while…said that they were aware of this issue and I would get my credit before the end of February.

Anyone else aware of this?