Jul 15, 14, 3:32 am
Last edit by: PHL
WIDEBODY AIRCRAFT FLEET (January 2023)
Boeing:
- 19 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Zodiac, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 28 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Super Diamond, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 20 77W / 777-300ER:3-class: F8, J52 Zodiac Cirrus, W28, Y216 (28 MCE)
- 20 788 / 787-8 2 Class: J20 Zodiac, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 13 788 / 787-8 2 class: J20 Super Diamond, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 22 789 / 787-9 2 Class: J30 Super Diamond, W21, Y234 (36 MCE)
On Order:
788 / 787-8: 4 in 2023. Super Diamond seating config
789 / 787-9: 30: Delivering through 2026. New seating layout: J51, W32, Y143 (18 MCE)
(Deliveries subject to change)
For widebody aircraft routes and schedules, please consult the AA cargo site: link
For questions, discussion, updates, see the posts below.
Boeing:
- 19 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Zodiac, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 28 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Super Diamond, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 20 77W / 777-300ER:3-class: F8, J52 Zodiac Cirrus, W28, Y216 (28 MCE)
- 20 788 / 787-8 2 Class: J20 Zodiac, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 13 788 / 787-8 2 class: J20 Super Diamond, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 22 789 / 787-9 2 Class: J30 Super Diamond, W21, Y234 (36 MCE)
On Order:
788 / 787-8: 4 in 2023. Super Diamond seating config
789 / 787-9: 30: Delivering through 2026. New seating layout: J51, W32, Y143 (18 MCE)
(Deliveries subject to change)
For widebody aircraft routes and schedules, please consult the AA cargo site: link
For questions, discussion, updates, see the posts below.
AA widebody / international aircraft on domestic routes [Master Thread]
Jan 14, 14, 10:42 pm
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AA widebody / international aircraft on domestic routes [Master Thread]
Having to learn the nuances of another airline sure is time consuming! I'm volunteering to take up the small project of listing out which regularly scheduled routes/flights AA and US operate their widebodies on. I know most of the AA routes, but could sure use some crowdsourced help on the US heavies and completing the AA list.
I'll update this first post as your replies come in. Mods, please change the title if you implicitly approve, or just zap the whole thing if it's already been done.
Thanks.
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Moderator note:
The initial list that was in the OP has been moved to a Wikipost so other members can help maintain it. Cheers!
I'll update this first post as your replies come in. Mods, please change the title if you implicitly approve, or just zap the whole thing if it's already been done.
Thanks.
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Moderator note:
The initial list that was in the OP has been moved to a Wikipost so other members can help maintain it. Cheers!
Last edited by Microwave; Jul 15, 14 at 3:30 am Reason: Farewell, 767-223!
Jan 14, 14, 11:04 pm
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So far as I know, US does not have regularly-scheduled widebody service. They just move some of the TATL birds onto popular domestic routes during the off-season, but not in any sort of way I've ever seen predicted (and those can get downgauged in a hurry if they need one of those planes due to MX with the ones flying international).
Jan 15, 14, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by LAXative
Having to learn the nuances of another airline sure is time consuming! I'm volunteering to take up the small project of listing out which regularly scheduled routes/flights AA and US operate their widebodies on. I know most of the AA routes, but could sure use some crowdsourced help on the US heavies and completing the AA list.
I'll update this first post as your replies come in. Mods, please change the title if you implicitly approve, or just zap the whole thing if it's already been done.
Thanks.
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Aircraft reference - AA
- 762: 3-class (10F/30J/104Y)
- 763: 2-class (30J/195Y)
- 772: 3-class (16F/37J/194Y), but sometimes sold as 2-class on domestic routes (J cabin becomes preferred seats).
- 77W: 3-class (8F/52J/30MCE/220Y), currently scheduled only for int'l routes.
- 789: TBA
Aircraft reference - US
- 332: 2-class (20J/232Y)
- 333: 2-class (28J/263Y)
- 359: TBA
- 762: 2-class (18J/186Y)
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Updated 1/14/14
DFW-LAX
- AA2413 | 763
- AA2423 | 772 (sold as 2-class)
- AA2447 | 763
DFW-SFO
- AA1677 | 763
JFK-LAX
- AA33/3/117/21/185 | 762
(*Not AA1/133/181, operated by 32B)
JFK-MIA
- AA2351 | 762(?)
JFK-SFO
- AA59 | 763
- AA179 | 762
- AA85 | 762
- AA177 | 763
LAX-DFW
- AA2426 | 763
- AA2430 | 763
- AA2452 | 772 (sold as 2-class)
LAX-JFK
- AA34/2/4/180/30 | 762
(*Not AA118/32/10, operated by 32B)
LAX-MIA
- AA1488 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA252 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
MIA-JFK
- AA1280 | 762(?)
MIA-LAX
- AA295 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA299 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA281 | 763
MIA-SFO
- AA167 | 763
SFO-DFW
- AA1677 | 763
SFO-JFK
- AA24 | 763
- AA16 | 763
- AA20 | 762
- AA18 | 762
SFO-MIA
- AA931 | 763
I'll update this first post as your replies come in. Mods, please change the title if you implicitly approve, or just zap the whole thing if it's already been done.
Thanks.
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Aircraft reference - AA
- 762: 3-class (10F/30J/104Y)
- 763: 2-class (30J/195Y)
- 772: 3-class (16F/37J/194Y), but sometimes sold as 2-class on domestic routes (J cabin becomes preferred seats).
- 77W: 3-class (8F/52J/30MCE/220Y), currently scheduled only for int'l routes.
- 789: TBA
Aircraft reference - US
- 332: 2-class (20J/232Y)
- 333: 2-class (28J/263Y)
- 359: TBA
- 762: 2-class (18J/186Y)
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Updated 1/14/14
DFW-LAX
- AA2413 | 763
- AA2423 | 772 (sold as 2-class)
- AA2447 | 763
DFW-SFO
- AA1677 | 763
JFK-LAX
- AA33/3/117/21/185 | 762
(*Not AA1/133/181, operated by 32B)
JFK-MIA
- AA2351 | 762(?)
JFK-SFO
- AA59 | 763
- AA179 | 762
- AA85 | 762
- AA177 | 763
LAX-DFW
- AA2426 | 763
- AA2430 | 763
- AA2452 | 772 (sold as 2-class)
LAX-JFK
- AA34/2/4/180/30 | 762
(*Not AA118/32/10, operated by 32B)
LAX-MIA
- AA1488 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA252 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
MIA-JFK
- AA1280 | 762(?)
MIA-LAX
- AA295 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA299 | 772 (sold as 3-class)
- AA281 | 763
MIA-SFO
- AA167 | 763
SFO-DFW
- AA1677 | 763
SFO-JFK
- AA24 | 763
- AA16 | 763
- AA20 | 762
- AA18 | 762
SFO-MIA
- AA931 | 763
Jan 15, 14, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by ubernostrum
So far as I know, US does not have regularly-scheduled widebody service. They just move some of the TATL birds onto popular domestic routes during the off-season, but not in any sort of way I've ever seen predicted (and those can get downgauged in a hurry if they need one of those planes due to MX with the ones flying international).
Historically, the closest thing US has had to regularly scheduled domestic widebody service is probably PHL-SJU-PHL with nearly daily service using a spare A330. That route with a morning departure from PHL allows the plane to be back to PHL in case it's needed for a TATL flight.
This may well change in the future since US is getting more widebodies (A332) than adding announced TATL routes.
Jim
Jan 15, 14, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by ubernostrum
So far as I know, US does not have regularly-scheduled widebody service. They just move some of the TATL birds onto popular domestic routes during the off-season, but not in any sort of way I've ever seen predicted (and those can get downgauged in a hurry if they need one of those planes due to MX with the ones flying international).
Jan 15, 14, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
US does, but they're all hub-hub flights and usually flights from CLT to PHL.
Jim
Jan 15, 14, 1:25 pm
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IIRC the early morning MIA/DFW is a 763 unless that has changed recently. MIA/JFK 7AM departure is a 763 with a 763 returning to MIA at 530PM. The 730AMish JFK/MIA was a 762 but not sure if that has gone to a 757.
Jan 15, 14, 9:26 pm
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Thanks for all the feedback! I've incorporated all the suggested changes to the AA schedule. Totally looked past Hawaii (d'oh) but somehow managed to consider the JFK-SJU flight (once widebody but no longer).
Disappointing that US doesn't rotate widebodies through the system regularly.
I remember JFK-MIA was a 762 as well, but that was a while ago.
Disappointing that US doesn't rotate widebodies through the system regularly.
I remember JFK-MIA was a 762 as well, but that was a while ago.
Jan 15, 14, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by BoeingBoy
Thanks for adding CLT<>PHL. I had forgotten what is really a maintenance positioning flight that has tickets for sale.
Jim
Jim
Widebodies have recently appearing on PHL/CLT-MCO/STT and CLT-BOS/PHX more frequently as more A332s have been delivered and 767 retirements have been delayed at least temporarily, though they're seasonal and always more likely during the transatlantic low season (now).
Jan 15, 14, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXative
Disappointing that US doesn't rotate widebodies through the system regularly.
We'll continue to see more domestic and/or near Caribbean 767/A330 routings as the US side of the house takes more A330-200s, notably to places like CUN, MCO, SJU, PUJ, and STT, and newly on CLT-BOS and PHX.
Jan 15, 14, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXative
Disappointing that US doesn't rotate widebodies through the system regularly.
Jim
Jan 16, 14, 4:41 am
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Man, good info, thanks all. US is such a different airline. I'm going to have to learn to read the tea leaves better, especially with the 50% bonus for flying on US.
I suppose my list is complete then... all the REGULARLY scheduled domestic widebodies flights in the combined AA/US have been listed (I think)
I suppose my list is complete then... all the REGULARLY scheduled domestic widebodies flights in the combined AA/US have been listed (I think)
