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Old Jul 15, 2014, 3:32 am
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WIDEBODY AIRCRAFT FLEET (January 2023)

Boeing:
- 19 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Zodiac, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 28 772 / 777-200ER 2 Class: J37 Super Diamond, W24, Y212 (66 MCE)
- 20 77W / 777-300ER 3-class: F8, J52 Zodiac Cirrus, W28, Y216 (28 MCE)
- 20 788 / 787-8 2 Class J20 Zodiac, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 13 788 / 787-8 2 class J20 Super Diamond, W28, Y186 (42 MCE)
- 22 789 / 787-9 2 Class J30 Super Diamond, W21, Y234 (36 MCE)

On Order:
788 / 787-8: 4 in 2023. Super Diamond seating config
789 / 787-9: 30: Delivering through 2026. New seating layout: J51, W32, Y143 (18 MCE)
(Deliveries subject to change)

For widebody aircraft routes and schedules, please consult the AA cargo site: link

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Old Feb 24, 2016, 7:35 pm
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Originally Posted by darnold
Which as far as I can tell, does not currently exist. A relic of something past? Or foreshadowing new service? Would love to have lie flats and more J/F on this underserved route... currently J cabins practically always zeroed out weeks in advance.
Perhaps the fare rules are satisfied by MIA-LAX(777)-SFO?
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Old Mar 28, 2016, 6:42 pm
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Not sure if it's just a one-off, but on May 29 I see AA 1295, a 777-200 from DFW-ORD.
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Old Apr 3, 2016, 7:13 pm
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Very happy my DFW-LAX in early July (AA2496) has just been upgauged from an A321 to the intl 767
Seat map shows 1-2-1
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Old Apr 3, 2016, 10:53 pm
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Didn't see this listed in the wiki yet--looks like as of 2 June, the 788 Dreamliner will have a daily flight between LAX and ORD. I think that would be the longest domestic Dreamliner flight on AA so far. As someone who was seriously bummed when they dropped the 763 from that route, I'm very excited.

. . . and, yes, I just saw it was already posted in another thread.

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Old Apr 4, 2016, 8:06 am
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763 also on MIA-MCO and MIA-LAS
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Old Apr 24, 2016, 4:33 pm
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I noticed a 2-class 772 on AA130 ORD-JFK beginning June 15. It remains a 772 daily through July 4 before reverting to a 738 on July 5. (However, I am not sure how far out the schedule is locked to it's possible that the schedule from July 5 onward is still the placeholder schedule).

Looks like the JFK-ORD half of the turn is AA2296.
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Old May 2, 2016, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by md25
In addition to the list, there is actually a 332 doing CLT-BOS-CLT runs again this year - on at least a handful of dates I was looking at in Feb.
Yup! I flew BOS-CLT on 2/27 on 332 N290AY and CLT-BOS on 3/1 on 332 N292AY.

Does anyone know what the reasoning behind this route in particular was? My flights were somewhat full, but I had two window seats to myself both ways, and that was the case for more than 1 person on the flights, so the load factor couldn't have been more than 80 percent. That said, I was pretty stoked to have the opportunity — the 332 is a great aircraft and was extremely comfortable for a 1 1/2 hour flight.
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Old May 2, 2016, 12:37 pm
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Does anyone know what the reasoning behind this route in particular was? My flights were somewhat full, but I had two window seats to myself both ways, and that was the case for more than 1 person on the flights, so the load factor couldn't have been more than 80 percent. That said, I was pretty stoked to have the opportunity — the 332 is a great aircraft and was extremely comfortable for a 1 1/2 hour flight.
I don't have the exact reason(s) why your flight featured an A332, but I have one WAG (that is probably pretty close):

Some European destinations are seasonal - flown in the summer only. If a summer seasonal flight is an A332, then where does that plane go in the off-season? Park it in ROW for a few months? Nope. Fly the plane on heavily traveled domestic routes (and routes to the Caribbean) during the winter. That way, the airline still generates revenue with the expensive asset (widebody plane) and doesn't have to furlough pilots. No airline wants to park planes for several months each year and pay the widebody pilots to sit at home (that's very expensive). Might as well make the employees work for their pay and get some revenue from the plane.

Other reasons can involve efficient routings to minimize ground sit time of the widebody planes.

IME, AA has always had some widebody domestic flights, with more of them in the winter than the summer (when they are flying those summer seasonal international flights).
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Old May 2, 2016, 5:57 pm
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CLT to BOS is actually long enough to enjoy the extra nice amenities, vs. MIA-MCO or when I had the 330 from CLT to PHL
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Old May 2, 2016, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by 33Lspotter
Yup! I flew BOS-CLT on 2/27 on 332 N290AY and CLT-BOS on 3/1 on 332 N292AY.

Does anyone know what the reasoning behind this route in particular was? My flights were somewhat full, but I had two window seats to myself both ways, and that was the case for more than 1 person on the flights, so the load factor couldn't have been more than 80 percent. That said, I was pretty stoked to have the opportunity — the 332 is a great aircraft and was extremely comfortable for a 1 1/2 hour flight.
I think I read somewhere that it had to do with AA needing a place to RON a widebody somewhere (not enough space in CLT) so they chose BOS because of the route profile and volume demand. Notice the flight was late out of CLT and early departure the next morning from BOS so could make sense if true.
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Old May 5, 2016, 5:29 am
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An A330-200 operated flight 743 from PHL to ORD last night, positioning for the ORD-DUB flight today. Not sure if this will become a daily occurrence or if this was a one-off to get the service started, but seemingly a first, especially for LUS widebody equipment. Registration was N282AY.
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Old Jul 13, 2016, 6:24 pm
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AA2452 ORD-LAX coming from JFK is a 77w on 9/6.. any insight if these one off's will actually stick? considering booking this over gambling the JFK-LAX upgrade.

Now thinking about it, it must be for the inaugural LAX-HKG flight 3 hours after landing.

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Old Jul 14, 2016, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by daron4000
I think I read somewhere that it had to do with AA needing a place to RON a widebody somewhere (not enough space in CLT) so they chose BOS because of the route profile and volume demand. Notice the flight was late out of CLT and early departure the next morning from BOS so could make sense if true.
RON? Random Over Night? Some of these TLA (three letter acronyms) are getting pretty obscure and I've been reading FT for years.

OK, airlines.net -> Remain Over Night. But, still, folks, please try to be more explicit. Please?
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Old Oct 10, 2016, 6:07 pm
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From mid-December through early January, flight 600 from CLT-PHX (9:30-12:06) and then flight 776 from PHX-PHL (1:15-7:25) is using an A332. I happen to be on flight 776 on 12/30/16 with the SWU already applied.
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Old Oct 11, 2016, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by CNMAZ
From mid-December through early January, flight 600 from CLT-PHX (9:30-12:06) and then flight 776 from PHX-PHL (1:15-7:25) is using an A332. I happen to be on flight 776 on 12/30/16 with the SWU already applied.
There seems to be an uptick in warm weather routes and then cuts in business routes. On 12/26 PHL-BOS is down to 6x and ORD is 7x. But PHL-MIA is 2x 332 and 1x 763 and PHL-MCO is 4x 332
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