Nov 19, 2013, 3:20 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
Covid-19 Update:
For further information on AA awards see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver Award Availability - Help, Assistance & Discussion
and
AA oneworld and Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015 on)
N.B. Upgrades on QR book into fares not granted EQD/EQM by AA. If you're upgraded on QR, be prepared for pushback from some AA agents. You may have to submit a formal request with accompanying documentation reflecting you purchased an eligible fare class.
NOTE:AA has removed most EY and QR award access from aa.com due to a glitch booking these:
If you experience difficulties with the AA reservations system, you may be able to book by calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (South African agency Mindpearl) - as they can often see the inventory more reliably, and you can book.
NOTE: USA Canada travel on QR will earn EQ miles etc. in accordance with the fare class purchased.
Links:
Link to AA.com Qatar miles earning etc.
AA miles earning on QR changed 1 May 2016 (Link):
Minimum miles guarantee applies.
Checking QR award availability:
You can check QR availability on AA's site, BA's site, QF's site, www.awardnexus.com (which pulls from BA and/or QF), or the KVS tool. (A certain number of searches are free to FlyerTalk members at AwardNexus; click the "more signup options" link under the green Purchase button to sign up as a FlyerTalk member.)
When checking QR award availability, you have to check each segment individually. Both BA and QF can generate very misleading information if you try to check QR award availability all the way through [xxx-(DOH)-yyy] in one step. Be aware AA can only book 330 days out, even if you see availability farther out.
Awards on QR may not be visible to AA agents if a multi-segment itinerary is requested; broken into individual segments will generally reveal availability, however.
As well, AA Australia or New Zealand (actually MindPearl in Fiji) can often see and book AA awards on QR US-based ones might not be able to.
From danger: For AA awards, Economy is X, Business is U, First is Z. NOTE: Those with Z (First) awards may see "Z (Business Class)" shown on the QR website; this is a known glitch.
As well, QR sells intra gulf two class service as First and Economy, as AA does domestically. This can cause some issues with a Business flight including a Gulf "First" flight potentially incurring an F award redemption.
From hotelmotel: "Got my QR PNR from AA. Popped over to QR and selected seats." (AAdvantage award.)
Days of the week: To/from the USA, especially in business class, Qatar often only offers awards seats for Mon..Thu departures, not Fri..Sun departures. So makes sure you check different parts of the week, and not just always weekends (if you're not finding anything on weekends).
NOTE: At DOH / Hamad International Airport, lounges as follows:
Qatar Airways Al Safwa First Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying First Class on Qatar or oneworld airlines and QRPC Platniums flying in ticketed Business (not oneworld Emeralds flying other lower classes of service)
Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Business Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying Business Class on Qatar or oneworld (not oneworld Sapphire flying lower classes of service)
Oryx Lounge: Third party lounge.
Qatar Airways HIA First Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First Class ticketed customers, Emerald members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.
Qatar Airways HIA Business Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First and Business Class ticketed customers, Emerald and Sapphire members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.
Arrivals Lounges (not oneworld lounges): only accessible to those arriving in First or Business Class on Qatar Airways (not oneworld Sapphire flying other oneworld airlines or other classes of service)
See FT: QR Lounges at HIA
Selecting Qatar Airways Seats
If you want to assign a seat after booking an award, you should first try the Qatar website or app. If you experience issues, please try a partner site like Royal Jordanian, Malaysia Airlines, or Sri-Lankan. You can also reach out to the QR Twitter team to fix your record in order to be able to select seats on their own site.
- Sapphire+ status pax are temporarily allowed to use the Al Mourjan Business Lounge
- Only tickets issued on QR 157 stock are eligible for the Extending Our Commitment (EOC) rebooking policy
For further information on AA awards see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver Award Availability - Help, Assistance & Discussion
and
AA oneworld and Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015 on)
N.B. Upgrades on QR book into fares not granted EQD/EQM by AA. If you're upgraded on QR, be prepared for pushback from some AA agents. You may have to submit a formal request with accompanying documentation reflecting you purchased an eligible fare class.
NOTE:AA has removed most EY and QR award access from aa.com due to a glitch booking these:
From One Mile at a Time (link)
Bottom Line
For the time being youll have to call American if you want to ticket AAdvantage awards on Etihad & Qatar that arent for travel to & from the US or Canada. It makes sense that American took these awards offline, and now it also makes sense why so many passengers have been having issues with checked bags on awards.
Bottom Line
For the time being youll have to call American if you want to ticket AAdvantage awards on Etihad & Qatar that arent for travel to & from the US or Canada. It makes sense that American took these awards offline, and now it also makes sense why so many passengers have been having issues with checked bags on awards.
NOTE: USA Canada travel on QR will earn EQ miles etc. in accordance with the fare class purchased.
Links:
Link to AA.com Qatar miles earning etc.
AA miles earning on QR changed 1 May 2016 (Link):
Minimum miles guarantee applies.
Checking QR award availability:
You can check QR availability on AA's site, BA's site, QF's site, www.awardnexus.com (which pulls from BA and/or QF), or the KVS tool. (A certain number of searches are free to FlyerTalk members at AwardNexus; click the "more signup options" link under the green Purchase button to sign up as a FlyerTalk member.)
When checking QR award availability, you have to check each segment individually. Both BA and QF can generate very misleading information if you try to check QR award availability all the way through [xxx-(DOH)-yyy] in one step. Be aware AA can only book 330 days out, even if you see availability farther out.
Awards on QR may not be visible to AA agents if a multi-segment itinerary is requested; broken into individual segments will generally reveal availability, however.
As well, AA Australia or New Zealand (actually MindPearl in Fiji) can often see and book AA awards on QR US-based ones might not be able to.
From danger: For AA awards, Economy is X, Business is U, First is Z. NOTE: Those with Z (First) awards may see "Z (Business Class)" shown on the QR website; this is a known glitch.
As well, QR sells intra gulf two class service as First and Economy, as AA does domestically. This can cause some issues with a Business flight including a Gulf "First" flight potentially incurring an F award redemption.
From hotelmotel: "Got my QR PNR from AA. Popped over to QR and selected seats." (AAdvantage award.)
Days of the week: To/from the USA, especially in business class, Qatar often only offers awards seats for Mon..Thu departures, not Fri..Sun departures. So makes sure you check different parts of the week, and not just always weekends (if you're not finding anything on weekends).
NOTE: At DOH / Hamad International Airport, lounges as follows:
Qatar Airways Al Safwa First Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying First Class on Qatar or oneworld airlines and QRPC Platniums flying in ticketed Business (not oneworld Emeralds flying other lower classes of service)
Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Business Lounge (not a oneworld lounge): only accessible to those flying Business Class on Qatar or oneworld (not oneworld Sapphire flying lower classes of service)
Oryx Lounge: Third party lounge.
Qatar Airways HIA First Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First Class ticketed customers, Emerald members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.
Qatar Airways HIA Business Class Lounge (oneworld lounge): First and Business Class ticketed customers, Emerald and Sapphire members, as well as their accompanying guests, travelling on Qatar Airways and other oneworld member flights.
Arrivals Lounges (not oneworld lounges): only accessible to those arriving in First or Business Class on Qatar Airways (not oneworld Sapphire flying other oneworld airlines or other classes of service)
See FT: QR Lounges at HIA
Selecting Qatar Airways Seats
If you want to assign a seat after booking an award, you should first try the Qatar website or app. If you experience issues, please try a partner site like Royal Jordanian, Malaysia Airlines, or Sri-Lankan. You can also reach out to the QR Twitter team to fix your record in order to be able to select seats on their own site.
Qatar Airways / QR: Redeem AA Miles for Award (master thd)
Mar 12, 2022, 10:26 am
#2116
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 112
Was it coach or business? If business, care to spend a minute on AA.com to put in your routing and see if J awards are available? I think all signs point to QR not immediately putting awards back upon cancellation (if at all), but would be good to have a one-off data point.
And yes, for sure you should get the $$$ back in addition to the miles.
And yes, for sure you should get the $$$ back in addition to the miles.
MIA - DOH J
DOH - I AH J
DOH - CDG Y
All booked and canceled in Feb/Mar
Mar 12, 2022, 5:08 pm
#2117
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,460
Good news changed my return by one day - was able J for all 4 legs
Outbound put on hold OMA/LAX/DOH/MLE all in J - does the LAX- DOH fly east or west?
We land at 11:20 pm in DOH, booked on the 7:45 am, I think theres a flight at 2am if we keep our luggage would we be able to standby?
Mar 12, 2022, 8:45 pm
#2118
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: RDU
Posts: 2,264
Thanks
Good news changed my return by one day - was able J for all 4 legs
Outbound put on hold OMA/LAX/DOH/MLE all in J - does the LAX- DOH fly east or west?
We land at 11:20 pm in DOH, booked on the 7:45 am, I think theres a flight at 2am if we keep our luggage would we be able to standby?
Good news changed my return by one day - was able J for all 4 legs
Outbound put on hold OMA/LAX/DOH/MLE all in J - does the LAX- DOH fly east or west?
We land at 11:20 pm in DOH, booked on the 7:45 am, I think theres a flight at 2am if we keep our luggage would we be able to standby?
Mar 12, 2022, 9:08 pm
#2119
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: So Cal
Posts: 937
Thanks
Good news changed my return by one day - was able J for all 4 legs
Outbound put on hold OMA/LAX/DOH/MLE all in J - does the LAX- DOH fly east or west?
We land at 11:20 pm in DOH, booked on the 7:45 am, I think theres a flight at 2am if we keep our luggage would we be able to standby?
Good news changed my return by one day - was able J for all 4 legs
Outbound put on hold OMA/LAX/DOH/MLE all in J - does the LAX- DOH fly east or west?
We land at 11:20 pm in DOH, booked on the 7:45 am, I think theres a flight at 2am if we keep our luggage would we be able to standby?
Mar 13, 2022, 2:01 pm
#2121
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,460
I’ve been checking every day, kind of rather go mid February.
Here is fun route I found in J
OMA-SEA land 4:41
SEA-DOA leave. 4:40 - that’s right 23 hours and 59 minutes in Seattle
then on to MLE
Here is fun route I found in J
OMA-SEA land 4:41
SEA-DOA leave. 4:40 - that’s right 23 hours and 59 minutes in Seattle
then on to MLE
Mar 14, 2022, 2:29 pm
#2122
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 25
Hi all. Just made a booking and need to fly to MLE in march '23. How do the point bookable seats for qsuites work. Is there a certain time they release. or is it completely random. I understand they arent out yet as only it seems like Feb 8th is the lastest day i can book and even tho im not seeing any qsuites availability. im willing to fly from SFO and JFK. Any and all help would be nice.
Mar 16, 2022, 4:57 pm
#2123
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Through fares on QR awards
I vaguely remember AA awards require the existence of published through fare on a routing to be one award. Else it breaks into 2 awards.
Can someone show me the way to check whether MIA-DCA can be added to IAD-DOH-CAI? The latter is readily bookable on AA online. MIA-DOH-CAI too, is eligible routing. (I suspect all US gateways are eligible). Unfortunately the date(s) I need, only IAD has availability, probably due to this route still flies the very old 77L config, versus other routes all fly the Q Suite config.
I would like to know whether the MIA-DCA IAD-DOH-CAI can be one award or breaks into two. If it is the latter, then we would opt to spend a couple days at DC versus just an overnight connection.
Appreciate inputs from this forum.
Can someone show me the way to check whether MIA-DCA can be added to IAD-DOH-CAI? The latter is readily bookable on AA online. MIA-DOH-CAI too, is eligible routing. (I suspect all US gateways are eligible). Unfortunately the date(s) I need, only IAD has availability, probably due to this route still flies the very old 77L config, versus other routes all fly the Q Suite config.
I would like to know whether the MIA-DCA IAD-DOH-CAI can be one award or breaks into two. If it is the latter, then we would opt to spend a couple days at DC versus just an overnight connection.
Appreciate inputs from this forum.
Mar 16, 2022, 5:16 pm
#2124
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
I vaguely remember AA awards require the existence of published through fare on a routing to be one award. Else it breaks into 2 awards.
Can someone show me the way to check whether MIA-DCA can be added to IAD-DOH-CAI? The latter is readily bookable on AA online. MIA-DOH-CAI too, is eligible routing. (I suspect all US gateways are eligible). Unfortunately the date(s) I need, only IAD has availability, probably due to this route still flies the very old 77L config, versus other routes all fly the Q Suite config.
I would like to know whether the MIA-DCA IAD-DOH-CAI can be one award or breaks into two. If it is the latter, then we would opt to spend a couple days at DC versus just an overnight connection.
Appreciate inputs from this forum.
Can someone show me the way to check whether MIA-DCA can be added to IAD-DOH-CAI? The latter is readily bookable on AA online. MIA-DOH-CAI too, is eligible routing. (I suspect all US gateways are eligible). Unfortunately the date(s) I need, only IAD has availability, probably due to this route still flies the very old 77L config, versus other routes all fly the Q Suite config.
I would like to know whether the MIA-DCA IAD-DOH-CAI can be one award or breaks into two. If it is the latter, then we would opt to spend a couple days at DC versus just an overnight connection.
Appreciate inputs from this forum.
I would put IAD-DOH-CAI on hold at aa.com, then call AA and ask to add the MIA-DCA segment and see if they can combine it into a single award.
Mar 17, 2022, 12:12 pm
#2125
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
You're going about this all wrong. Try to book it first, then worry about whether there's a through fare or not later, if and only if you run into any issues.
I would put IAD-DOH-CAI on hold at aa.com, then call AA and ask to add the MIA-DCA segment and see if they can combine it into a single award.
I would put IAD-DOH-CAI on hold at aa.com, then call AA and ask to add the MIA-DCA segment and see if they can combine it into a single award.
Mar 18, 2022, 5:38 am
#2126
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,527
Does Qatar QMiles availability match what AAdvantage can book? Looking at some F awards and AA saying they can't see them, despite showing on QR.com
Last edited by m0hamed; Mar 18, 2022 at 5:44 am
Mar 18, 2022, 7:05 am
#2128
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
Hi all. Just made a booking and need to fly to MLE in march '23. How do the point bookable seats for qsuites work. Is there a certain time they release. or is it completely random. I understand they arent out yet as only it seems like Feb 8th is the lastest day i can book and even tho im not seeing any qsuites availability. im willing to fly from SFO and JFK. Any and all help would be nice.
Mar 18, 2022, 10:31 am
#2129
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
I don't know what you mean by "Just made a booking and need to fly to MLE in march '23". If you already booked flights, then what is your question? Also, stating "im willing to fly from SFO and JFK" shows low flexibility on your part. If you find award availability, great, but if you don't, there might be availability from other QR U.S. airports. Finally, award inventory is for a cabin (e.g.., business class). QR may or may not operate a flight with Qsuite, and is likely to change configurations fairly often.
A rough guide on the routes published in late 2021 for 2022, ALREADY DO NOT MATCH what are shown currently for 2nd half of 2022, in Multiple Gateways I have checked availability.
https://upgradedpoints.com/travel/ai...s-plane-types/
It really boils down to - whether you want to use QR to go where you want to go, or you truly want to be in QSuite (that does not have any assurance.)
Mar 18, 2022, 4:31 pm
#2130
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
So if you're just searching "CAI-XXX" at aa.com (with XXX being your final destination in the US) and expecting aa.com to return any and all possible routings using QR, then you're doing it very wrong.
With pretty much any partner search like this you have to hunt and peck and piece things together one segment at a time. Search just DOH-JFK, then DOH-BOS, then DOH-PHL, and so on until you find something. Then search CAI-DOH on that date to see if that's available too. Rinse and repeat until you can piece together an itinerary.
Just did a dummy search for DOH-ORD, random Tuesday in mid July, on page 2 of the results I found a DOH-IAD-ORD routing availabe in business. Boom, now I know DOH-IAD is available on date X. Then searched CAI-IAD on date X -1 day, and voilą, now I have CAI-DOH-IAD. That was literally the very first random date I picked.
With pretty much any partner search like this you have to hunt and peck and piece things together one segment at a time. Search just DOH-JFK, then DOH-BOS, then DOH-PHL, and so on until you find something. Then search CAI-DOH on that date to see if that's available too. Rinse and repeat until you can piece together an itinerary.
Just did a dummy search for DOH-ORD, random Tuesday in mid July, on page 2 of the results I found a DOH-IAD-ORD routing availabe in business. Boom, now I know DOH-IAD is available on date X. Then searched CAI-IAD on date X -1 day, and voilą, now I have CAI-DOH-IAD. That was literally the very first random date I picked.
Last edited by Happy; Mar 18, 2022 at 4:37 pm