Jan 14, 2015, 5:58 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
The aa.com oneworld and Other Airline Award Chart may be seen here, for required miles and restrictions on connections.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
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Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
BA only shows 3 cabins in output. When searching for award seats, make sure to select 1st class as cabin and it will show premium economy, business and 1st rather than economy, premium economy and business
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
+++++++++++++++++
/Moderator
Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
Jan 16, 2016, 6:11 pm
#393
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OMAAT covering a bit this issue with QF awards not being honored:
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...Mile+at+a+Time
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...Mile+at+a+Time
Jan 17, 2016, 4:26 am
#394
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If there are unsold F seats close to departure those are much more likely to be used for points upgrades by QFF OWEs.Mrsdrron is OWE with QF and we have always been successful getting J-F upgrades to the US.
Jan 17, 2016, 5:23 am
#395
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Just booked 2 F MileSaaver tickets for October Madrid to Sydney via LHR and DXB. After trying for weeks and getting phantom inventory , dates suddenly appeared. Also Paris to Syd on BA to LHR and then QF2 as above were available on the 18'th .
USD 252 in taxes.
By comparison QF were AUD 1200 in taxes and fees for the Syd- Europe leg in July...
May be my last hurrah , given the increase in award miles needed from March...
USD 252 in taxes.
By comparison QF were AUD 1200 in taxes and fees for the Syd- Europe leg in July...
May be my last hurrah , given the increase in award miles needed from March...
Jan 17, 2016, 10:32 am
#396
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Data Point:
Attempted to book QF SFO -> SYD return in J - Expertflyer shows availability (aa.com does not), AA agent saw it, but was unable to book per others in this thread.
AA agent said to call back in a few days and check. Agent would not allow me to put the itinerary on hold.
Attempted to book QF SFO -> SYD return in J - Expertflyer shows availability (aa.com does not), AA agent saw it, but was unable to book per others in this thread.
AA agent said to call back in a few days and check. Agent would not allow me to put the itinerary on hold.
Jan 17, 2016, 2:19 pm
#397
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 106
Hi All
I just booked QF12 JFK - SYD in J, but when talking to the AA agent and trying to book DFW - SYD in F instead, she said that I couldn't book as it was for Qantas FFs only?
The flight was on the same day (so open to all partners now, not just QFF).
Seemed very strange? Has anyone else experienced this? Should I just ring back until I get an agent that is able to book it for me or am I truly not eligible to fly in F?
Thanks!
I just booked QF12 JFK - SYD in J, but when talking to the AA agent and trying to book DFW - SYD in F instead, she said that I couldn't book as it was for Qantas FFs only?
The flight was on the same day (so open to all partners now, not just QFF).
Seemed very strange? Has anyone else experienced this? Should I just ring back until I get an agent that is able to book it for me or am I truly not eligible to fly in F?
Thanks!
Jan 18, 2016, 9:06 am
#401
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Correct - cost me 62,500 + 34.46 AUD for each seat.
It's an old product and not as good as Cathay IMO but to fly JFK - SYD on CX / JAL would be almost twice as much, and take longer.
Food and wine selection in QF J is better than on CX / JAL also, however the service is pretty average compared to CX / JAL.
All a trade off I guess.
It's an old product and not as good as Cathay IMO but to fly JFK - SYD on CX / JAL would be almost twice as much, and take longer.
Food and wine selection in QF J is better than on CX / JAL also, however the service is pretty average compared to CX / JAL.
All a trade off I guess.
Jan 18, 2016, 1:15 pm
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