Question about Fare Class Availability
#31
Join Date: Jan 2011
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I' looking to book a flight to Maui in March and am just getting to grips with EF and ow AA's fare buckets work so forgive me if some or all of these questions are silly.
1) Would I be right in thinking that the codes on EF (when searching for a flight) are in decreasing order of cost ie. O & Q are cheaper than S?
2) If I'm right in point 1 why would EF show availability in Q while AA.com only offers S? If I'm wrong then clearly this question is void.
3) How can I tell if a bucket shows zero availability because inventory hasn't been released as opposed to AA having released all their inventory but it's subsequently been sold? (Clearly if I'm looking a few weeks out it's probably safer to assume that inventory is sold out but what if I'm looking 5 months out?)
Thanks in advance for any help.
1) Would I be right in thinking that the codes on EF (when searching for a flight) are in decreasing order of cost ie. O & Q are cheaper than S?
2) If I'm right in point 1 why would EF show availability in Q while AA.com only offers S? If I'm wrong then clearly this question is void.
3) How can I tell if a bucket shows zero availability because inventory hasn't been released as opposed to AA having released all their inventory but it's subsequently been sold? (Clearly if I'm looking a few weeks out it's probably safer to assume that inventory is sold out but what if I'm looking 5 months out?)
Thanks in advance for any help.
2 - That shouldnt be the case. If Q shows availability, it should show on AA.com for sale. If it doesn't, that could mean that it was sold or the availability was adjusted during the time it took you to look at EF and then look at AA.com. This is entirely possible.
3 - You can't. Inventory closings are made for numerous reasons. Looking at EF will not give you any guidance as to why an inventory has closed. Selling all the available seats in the inventory is clearly the most common reason for an inventory closing though.
#32
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Programs: AA Concierge Key, Marriott Titanium Elite, National Executive Elite
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Monkeys in a room next to the PhDs... LMAO! I will make sure to stop by the PhDs and ask them to see the room of monkeys! I am sure they will get a kick out of this, or get highly insulted...
So the PhDs come up with the science behind the models that make decisions on flight inventory closings, but many times the analysts in Revenue Management will override the decisions made by the models. It's usually done for situations that the models cannot accurately predict.
As for inventories opening up as the day of departure comes, it is true that inventories can open up over time. It depends on how well the flight is booking. A flight that is booking poorly will have lower inventories opened over time based on how the yield manager has set it to open.
Im glad to answer any questions I can on the topic, let me know.
So the PhDs come up with the science behind the models that make decisions on flight inventory closings, but many times the analysts in Revenue Management will override the decisions made by the models. It's usually done for situations that the models cannot accurately predict.
As for inventories opening up as the day of departure comes, it is true that inventories can open up over time. It depends on how well the flight is booking. A flight that is booking poorly will have lower inventories opened over time based on how the yield manager has set it to open.
Im glad to answer any questions I can on the topic, let me know.
#33
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
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2 - That shouldnt be the case. If Q shows availability, it should show on AA.com for sale. If it doesn't, that could mean that it was sold or the availability was adjusted during the time it took you to look at EF and then look at AA.com. This is entirely possible.
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2 - That shouldnt be the case. If Q shows availability, it should show on AA.com for sale. If it doesn't, that could mean that it was sold or the availability was adjusted during the time it took you to look at EF and then look at AA.com. This is entirely possible.
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For example, AA may publishes only an S fare, so you can only buy an S fare, even though the flight has Q inventory. Alternatively, it may be that all the Q fares have 21 days advance purchase requirement, so within 7 days of departure, you will not be able to buy a Q-coded ticket, even though the flight has Q inventory available.
#34
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2) If I'm right in point 1 why would EF show availability in Q while AA.com only offers S?
3) How can I tell if a bucket shows zero availability because inventory hasn't been released as opposed to AA having released all their inventory but it's subsequently been sold?