AMR-huge domestic fleet capacity reduction, $15 fee first checked bag... (consol)
May 21, 2008, 8:49 am
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The interplay between carryon bin space and charges for luggage will be interesting. As an elite, I'm now going to have to give more attention to being at the gate before boarding, under the assumption that elite boarding is the only way to guaranty my rollaboard a spot in the bin.
Will AA charge for over-sized "carry on" luggage that is gate checked?
Will AA charge for over-sized "carry on" luggage that is gate checked?
May 21, 2008, 8:50 am
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May 21, 2008, 8:51 am
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UA kicked this round off and AA is following.
May 21, 2008, 8:52 am
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At least the 500 mile minimum remains untouched, for now. ^
May 21, 2008, 8:52 am
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while they are at it, move EXP CS to a 900 number too, might as well make a few bucks on that call!
May 21, 2008, 8:53 am
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May 21, 2008, 8:54 am
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Pet fees are now showing as $100 (in-cabin) and $150 (checked).
May 21, 2008, 8:56 am
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to think southwest started this by charging for the third bag. they must be laughing as the legacies begin to push price conscious travelers into their arms. the airlines are not the only ones affected by todays economic situation and as they start charging more those, both individuals and businesses, will start looking at their costs and imho southwest stands to come out seriously on top.
anybody know what percentage of aa's routes overlap with wn.
anybody know what percentage of aa's routes overlap with wn.
May 21, 2008, 8:57 am
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You should send your resume to the Revenue Management Dept at AA..!
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May 21, 2008, 8:58 am
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While I think that the new fee will impact the cabin stowage (and I do care about that), I disagree with your approach. I'm all in favor of having people pay for what they use, rather than having to subsidize it. This is in principle, of course, as the $15 doesn't really matter than much to me in reality.
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense
).
Let's not try to make this appear any different than what it is. The airline industry in the US has become a pay-for-service proposition. It's not going to change. We can either accept it with a sigh or b$%@& and moan about it.
Cheers.
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense
).Let's not try to make this appear any different than what it is. The airline industry in the US has become a pay-for-service proposition. It's not going to change. We can either accept it with a sigh or b$%@& and moan about it.
Cheers.
Actually the buy-on-board model is one of the success stories of this decade. Turn a costly item into one that actually generates profit.
May 21, 2008, 8:59 am
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It's great that they are charging for every single bag now, as it won't affect me for business travel, but some people might think twice when planning family vacations.
My mother-in-law is the reason these policies are created
My mother-in-law is the reason these policies are created
May 21, 2008, 9:00 am
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Please, if Southwest were really that great and cheap all the time, then the legacies should have lost most leisure travelers' business a long time ago. Yet Southwest maintains load factors that are well below legacy carriers. Clearly some people don't like Southwest or else everyone will be flying them already.
The reality is, they don't need to. Even more to their benefit, they have plenty of room to shift or reduce capacity while continuing to grow traffic.
May 21, 2008, 9:01 am
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My thought exactly. ^
So, how long will it take for the millions of non-elites to figure out how to beat the $15 (or $25 if it's the second bag) and bring the bag on board knowing it will likely be gate-checked and not pay the fee? Don't expect the FA's to collect it and risk getting into an arguement or the GA's who are under constant pressure to push back on time.
This is going to fun to watch from the comfort of my F seat.
So, how long will it take for the millions of non-elites to figure out how to beat the $15 (or $25 if it's the second bag) and bring the bag on board knowing it will likely be gate-checked and not pay the fee? Don't expect the FA's to collect it and risk getting into an arguement or the GA's who are under constant pressure to push back on time.
This is going to fun to watch from the comfort of my F seat.
May 21, 2008, 9:01 am
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While I think that the new fee will impact the cabin stowage (and I do care about that), I disagree with your approach. I'm all in favor of having people pay for what they use, rather than having to subsidize it. This is in principle, of course, as the $15 doesn't really matter than much to me in reality.
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense).
They reduced prices and stopped serving food in Y; those that want food can buy it. They eliminated drinks in Y on international flights; those that want a drink can buy one. They added a fee for the second bag; want to check two bags- pay for it. This is just the same philosophy. If I don't check a bag, why should I pay for yours (you, in the general sense
).
Like someone else said, AA is now like RyanAir and not a full service carrier.
Suppose someone boards late due to a late connecting flight and their regulation size carry-on doesn't fit? Are they going to get charged?
May 21, 2008, 9:02 am
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Please, if Southwest were really that great and cheap all the time, then the legacies should have lost most leisure travelers' business a long time ago. Yet Southwest maintains load factors that are well below legacy carriers. Clearly some people don't like Southwest or else everyone will be flying them already.
It's inarguable some people don't like Southwest, but it's pricing decisions like charging for the first bag (when Southwest doesn't even charge for the second bag!) and raising change fees to $150 (when Southwest doesn't even have change fees!) that will only make Southwest more popular. I don't think the money-losing legacies can really afford to cede any passengers to still profitable Southwest at this point ...