More Miami / MIA- Sao Paulo GRU flights

 
Old Sep 25, 06, 6:32 pm
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More Miami / MIA- Sao Paulo GRU flights

American Airlines will begin a fourth daily flight between Miami and Sao Paulo effective 13 December 2006. The current daily daylight flight number will move to a new redeye schedule, as already known, but the daylight flight will remain with a different flight number. AA's Miami-Sao Paulo schedule will be:

AA 2943 MIA 1205-2325 GRU 763 xMoWe
AA 907 MIA 2000-0715+1 GRU 763
AA 929 MIA 2200-0915+1 GRU 763
AA 995 MIA 2320-1025+1 GRU 772
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AA 998 GRU 0045-0600 MIA 763
AA 930 GRU 0130-0645 MIA 763
AA 2944 GRU 1245-1830 MIA 763 xMoWe
AA 906 GRU 2325-0430+1 MIA 772

AA will offer a total of 26 non-stop flights a week between Miami and Sao Paulo and 14 between Miami and Rio de Janeiro, in addition to daily service from Dallas and New York City to Sao Paulo, and a daily Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro feeder flight.

Also, the new MIA-GIG schedules:

AA 2919 MIA 2035-0805+1 GIG 763
AA 905 MIA 1115-1040+1 GIG 763
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AA 904 GIG 2300-0425+1 MIA 763
AA 2980 GIG 2355-0520+1 MIA 763

Combined with TAM's increased MIA winter schedule - 28 weekly non-stops to Salvador, Manaus, Sao Paulo, and new flights to Rio de Janeiro - AA/JJ will have ten daily flights to Brazil.

No word on when AA/JJ will expand their codeshare to include MIA-MAO, MIA-SSA, MIA-GIG, and the MIA-GRU daylight, but it would be nice.
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Old Sep 25, 06, 10:26 pm
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Thanks for posting the new schedule!

I also have never understood why AA didn't codeshare on TAM's MIA-Northeast flights. The current bilateral allows codesharing on both MIA-SSA and MIA-MAO so it must be the decision of one of the two airlines not to do so. Perhaps AA would lose some passengers to GRU, but most of the GRU-bound pax tend to stay in GRU or if they connect, they go to CNF or a city in the South.
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Old Sep 26, 06, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by DCAstudent
Thanks for posting the new schedule!

I also have never understood why AA didn't codeshare on TAM's MIA-Northeast flights. The current bilateral allows codesharing on both MIA-SSA and MIA-MAO so it must be the decision of one of the two airlines not to do so. Perhaps AA would lose some passengers to GRU, but most of the GRU-bound pax tend to stay in GRU or if they connect, they go to CNF or a city in the South.
No idea. Back in 2001, TAM started MIA-MAO-BSB, and AA codeshared on it. The flight ended not longer after 9.11.
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Are these extra sections' flight numbers a bit unusual? All the other wide-body LatAm flights are 9XX, right?
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Old Sep 26, 06, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by 1K-SFO
Are these extra sections' flight numbers a bit unusual? All the other wide-body LatAm flights are 9XX, right?
Several of the Centra America flights begin with 2XXX.

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MIA-SJO 2141, for example.
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Old Oct 11, 06, 6:09 pm
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Anyone know why the daytime MIA-GRU-MIA flights (929/930) are not on the schedule for the next couple of weeks?
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Old Oct 12, 06, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DCAstudent
Anyone know why the daytime MIA-GRU-MIA flights (929/930) are not on the schedule for the next couple of weeks?
Because it is MoFrSaSu only during October through mid-November.
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
American Airlines will begin a fourth daily flight between Miami and Sao Paulo effective 13 December 2006. The current daily daylight flight number will move to a new redeye schedule, as already known, but the daylight flight will remain with a different flight number. AA's Miami-Sao Paulo schedule will be:

AA 2943 MIA 1205-2325 GRU 763 xMoWe
AA 907 MIA 2000-0715+1 GRU 763
AA 929 MIA 2200-0915+1 GRU 763
AA 995 MIA 2320-1025+1 GRU 772
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AA 998 GRU 0045-0600 MIA 763
AA 930 GRU 0130-0645 MIA 763
AA 2944 GRU 1245-1830 MIA 763 xMoWe
AA 906 GRU 2325-0430+1 MIA 772

AA will offer a total of 26 non-stop flights a week between Miami and Sao Paulo and 14 between Miami and Rio de Janeiro, in addition to daily service from Dallas and New York City to Sao Paulo, and a daily Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro feeder flight.

Also, the new MIA-GIG schedules:

AA 2919 MIA 2035-0805+1 GIG 763
AA 905 MIA 1115-1040+1 GIG 763
----------------
AA 904 GIG 2300-0425+1 MIA 763
AA 2980 GIG 2355-0520+1 MIA 763

Combined with TAM's increased MIA winter schedule - 28 weekly non-stops to Salvador, Manaus, Sao Paulo, and new flights to Rio de Janeiro - AA/JJ will have ten daily flights to Brazil.

No word on when AA/JJ will expand their codeshare to include MIA-MAO, MIA-SSA, MIA-GIG, and the MIA-GRU daylight, but it would be nice.
On a return day flight from Mia to Gru yesterday I was told by the purser that the daylight flight will be axed sometime early next year so we will only have red-eyes on this route in the future.

Can someone confirm this
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Old Oct 16, 06, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by AAEXP
On a return day flight from Mia to Gru yesterday I was told by the purser that the daylight flight will be axed sometime early next year so we will only have red-eyes on this route in the future.

Can someone confirm this
Day flight goes after 30 Jan.
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Old Oct 16, 06, 8:31 am
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What about CNF?

I'm still waiting for the reinstatement of the CNF service. It would be nice for one of these GRU flights continue on to Belo Horizonte like in the past. Or even better a direct flight MIA-CNF using a narrowbody (752+winglet)? Possible?
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Originally Posted by DTKWIA
Day flight goes after 30 Jan.
Thanks for the info. The same purser was wondering why AA was axing these day flights since loads according to her were finally good?
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Originally Posted by timfucius
I'm still waiting for the reinstatement of the CNF service. It would be nice for one of these GRU flights continue on to Belo Horizonte like in the past. Or even better a direct flight MIA-CNF using a narrowbody (752+winglet)? Possible?
Since Varig is now out of the picture it would IMHO make a lot of sense for AA to take a good look again on the CNF service. But I guess that not all heads in Dallas know of the existance of this airport?
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Old Oct 16, 06, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by AAEXP
Since Varig is now out of the picture it would IMHO make a lot of sense for AA to take a good look again on the CNF service. But I guess that not all heads in Dallas know of the existance of this airport?
There's still a lot of AA ground equipment equipment and signage at CNF (or at least it was there in March), so maybe they will take another look.

They could also try GRU-POA again, although I think the problem with that flight was due to the common weather (fog) delays.

I'm going to miss the daytime flights. They were never more than half-full when I took them and always had C7 on EF...
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Old Oct 16, 06, 12:39 pm
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Thanks for the information about the daytime flights. I will miss them. I have taken that flight twice in the last year; both times the plane was 100% full.
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Old Oct 16, 06, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DCAstudent
There's still a lot of AA ground equipment equipment and signage at CNF (or at least it was there in March), so maybe they will take another look.

They could also try GRU-POA again, although I think the problem with that flight was due to the common weather (fog) delays.

I'm going to miss the daytime flights. They were never more than half-full when I took them and always had C7 on EF...

The AA signs at the counters are long gone (now occupied by TAM at the right hand side). The cargo area doesn't have the signs up anymore.

If you visit CNF today you'll see a whole different airport. It's so much busier than before. The access roads when finished will give this city a much needed boost. Gol Airlines has recently innaugurated its maintenance hub there. Geographically speaking, CNF is really well positioned to feed flights to other regions of Brazil and has the infrastructure to support it. I believe that AA could potentially benefit from good cargo loads + pax at this airport. It made sense in the past, so why not take a second look?
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