ARCHIVE: Routes (Flights) and Hubs (Speculation, News and Discussion)
May 27, 2014, 4:11 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by austin_res
SFO-LAX schedule on US (mesa). Starts on Sept 3.
US2692 SFO LAX 0800 0930
US2721 SFO LAX 1045 1220
US2789 SFO LAX 1600 1725
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ain/6079305/1/ (scroll down to post #35)
Gee, seems not long ago that US was very significant; shame they let the PS smile fade. Oh, and AA; the same thing with OC. HP tried it too; couldn't make it work either.
Originally Posted by austin_res
SFO-LAX schedule on US (mesa). Starts on Sept 3.
US2692 SFO LAX 0800 0930
US2721 SFO LAX 1045 1220
US2789 SFO LAX 1600 1725
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ain/6079305/1/ (scroll down to post #35)
Gee, seems not long ago that US was very significant; shame they let the PS smile fade. Oh, and AA; the same thing with OC. HP tried it too; couldn't make it work either.
May 27, 2014, 4:38 pm
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As nova08 pointed out, none of those cities is very likely as a nonstop from ORD (or any other AA gateway). SIN, KUL and BKK aren't even viable as nonstops by their nation's flag carriers. If you're thinking that AA metal will fly to those cities one-stop via NRT, I give that a zero probability as well. AA has a capable immunized joint venture partner in JAL, and connections to those far-flung destinations beyond TYO are well within JAL's expertise.
And if anybody is going to fly nonstop to those cities beyond TYO, it will be DL from the closest hub, Seattle. SIN, KUL and BKK are just too costly at the current price of fuel (because you have to burn so much fuel just to carry the fuel for such a long nonstop flight). That circular calculation makes ultra-long flights uneconomical.
A few more cities in China? Perhaps, but the first order of business should be to take away more China passengers from UA, including NYC. JFK to PVG and PEK would help do that.
Another possibility is ICN from LAX, maybe ORD and perhaps JFK.
And if anybody is going to fly nonstop to those cities beyond TYO, it will be DL from the closest hub, Seattle. SIN, KUL and BKK are just too costly at the current price of fuel (because you have to burn so much fuel just to carry the fuel for such a long nonstop flight). That circular calculation makes ultra-long flights uneconomical.
A few more cities in China? Perhaps, but the first order of business should be to take away more China passengers from UA, including NYC. JFK to PVG and PEK would help do that.
Another possibility is ICN from LAX, maybe ORD and perhaps JFK.
May 27, 2014, 9:29 pm
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As you can see, this would basically fill the available space between A and the tank farm/railroad.
The next steps would be to expand B (and eventually C) like this:
If I'm picturing what you mean by "toaster rack model" there isn't room for more gates in B/C than the above extension of B.
Jim
May 28, 2014, 8:31 am
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According to folks on a.net, AA is getting four additional gates at LAX - starting late this summer. Gates 60-63 all in T6. Good luck with those connections!
May 28, 2014, 9:47 am
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Connections? Given that LAX features fewer connections than any other AA hub (as a percentage of passengers), the few connecting passengers will be fine. The tunnel between T-4 and T-5 will reopen when AA occupies those gates, enabling a simple airside walk between T-4 and T-6. Piece of cake.
May 28, 2014, 6:10 pm
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It's not just a rumour on that teenager-centric website; been discussed in other threads here for several days now.
Connections? Given that LAX features fewer connections than any other AA hub (as a percentage of passengers), the few connecting passengers will be fine. The tunnel between T-4 and T-5 will reopen when AA occupies those gates, enabling a simple airside walk between T-4 and T-6. Piece of cake.
Connections? Given that LAX features fewer connections than any other AA hub (as a percentage of passengers), the few connecting passengers will be fine. The tunnel between T-4 and T-5 will reopen when AA occupies those gates, enabling a simple airside walk between T-4 and T-6. Piece of cake.
May 29, 2014, 11:45 am
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It's not just a rumour on that teenager-centric website; been discussed in other threads here for several days now.
Connections? Given that LAX features fewer connections than any other AA hub (as a percentage of passengers), the few connecting passengers will be fine. The tunnel between T-4 and T-5 will reopen when AA occupies those gates, enabling a simple airside walk between T-4 and T-6. Piece of cake.
Connections? Given that LAX features fewer connections than any other AA hub (as a percentage of passengers), the few connecting passengers will be fine. The tunnel between T-4 and T-5 will reopen when AA occupies those gates, enabling a simple airside walk between T-4 and T-6. Piece of cake.
May 29, 2014, 11:50 am
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Subsequently, other posts on the same topic were moved there.
May 29, 2014, 1:13 pm
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AA using T6 at LAX makes sense with the AS codesharing/partnership. I wonder what flights AA will use those gates for, though. For domestic connections, I have no idea what goes on at LAX - I was under the impression that there wasn't a lot of domestic connecting traffic there to begin with. Any chance they run some intl flights out of T6 - potentially whatever intl routes AS is currently feeding?
May 29, 2014, 2:46 pm
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AA using T6 at LAX makes sense with the AS codesharing/partnership. I wonder what flights AA will use those gates for, though. For domestic connections, I have no idea what goes on at LAX - I was under the impression that there wasn't a lot of domestic connecting traffic there to begin with. Any chance they run some intl flights out of T6 - potentially whatever intl routes AS is currently feeding?
May 29, 2014, 11:52 pm
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The US Airways June 2014 inflight magazine (very large) will cover all of the hubs and a variety of stats including number of destinations, flights, countries, etc. Clearly from this infographic, LAX looks small compared to many of the other hubs.
However, there does not appear to be a shortage of demand with AA adding the aforementioned new gates (along with TBIT gates to come too sometime later).
Rasheed
However, there does not appear to be a shortage of demand with AA adding the aforementioned new gates (along with TBIT gates to come too sometime later).
Rasheed
May 30, 2014, 7:32 am
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One might have criticized it for being geezer-centric or ground-worker-centric but a.net does have its issues - as does FlyerTalk. There's a clear diverisity of experiences and understanding.
May 30, 2014, 3:47 pm
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AA using T6 at LAX makes sense with the AS codesharing/partnership. I wonder what flights AA will use those gates for, though. For domestic connections, I have no idea what goes on at LAX - I was under the impression that there wasn't a lot of domestic connecting traffic there to begin with. Any chance they run some intl flights out of T6 - potentially whatever intl routes AS is currently feeding?
This is just my guess but I think T6 will be primarily used for flights that are nearly 100% LA O&D with very little connecting traffic - e.g. LAX-PHX, LAX-LAS
May 30, 2014, 5:08 pm
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I think LAX-DFW might be a candidate if they decide to put O/D traffic in T6.
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May 30, 2014, 5:11 pm
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Um, there's a decent amount of connecting traffic to LAS and PHX from OW partners, given that QF/JL don't fly nonstop to either of those cities. 
Anyways, I suspect the answer's easy- AA will want to consolidate their operations and not run busses, so the US gates at T3 will be handed back to LAWA, the T4-T5 connector tunnel will open and US will come over to the other side, and AA will probably prioritize flights that don't get a lot of connecting traffic...
Anyways, I suspect the answer's easy- AA will want to consolidate their operations and not run busses, so the US gates at T3 will be handed back to LAWA, the T4-T5 connector tunnel will open and US will come over to the other side, and AA will probably prioritize flights that don't get a lot of connecting traffic...