Is AA's anti-American decision to buy Euro planes making you fly elsewhere?
Aug 23, 2011, 11:25 am
#31
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Hmmm...NO
But have you decided to only travel in the USA to show your support, never travelling, phoning, or buying anything from outside the US. No watching movies, listening to music, etc.
Perhaps the poster just likes to stir things up but this is not a question when it's phrased the way you asked it; we obviously know how you feel.
But have you decided to only travel in the USA to show your support, never travelling, phoning, or buying anything from outside the US. No watching movies, listening to music, etc.
Perhaps the poster just likes to stir things up but this is not a question when it's phrased the way you asked it; we obviously know how you feel.
Aug 23, 2011, 11:29 am
#32
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'American' recently announced a huge order of European aircraft. In doing so, they sent 10's of thousands of American jobs to Europe during the biggest financial crisis in this country's history. You could even at this point call them European Airlines.
I'm wondering if this anti-American approach is causing anyone to bring their business elsewhere. I find it rather hypocritical that a company should call itself American and yet refuse to buy the rather amazing planes that are built in this country.
Get your posts in quickly as the corporate interests that advertise here are having posts and threads like this removed quickly.
I'm wondering if this anti-American approach is causing anyone to bring their business elsewhere. I find it rather hypocritical that a company should call itself American and yet refuse to buy the rather amazing planes that are built in this country.
Get your posts in quickly as the corporate interests that advertise here are having posts and threads like this removed quickly.
Aug 23, 2011, 11:31 am
#33
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That being said, I wasn't happy that some in the French Govt. have recently threatened Air France to purchase the Airbus A350XWB. They also threatened AF to purchase the A346, which of course, AF didn't but rather the B77W.
I do think AF will get the A350XWB (though the majority will be Boeing 787's IMHO), not because of the threats but because its a plane they actually need.
For my choices its:
1)OneWorld to get AA miles, lounges, etc. or AA EQM/EQP's from say EY, AS, etc.
2)I happen to love the B777's so I do make a choice here as my second choice.
3)Price.
4)Total trip time.
#2-#3-#4 do vary, no fixed rules there.
Aug 23, 2011, 11:32 am
#34
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So does that mean that British Airways and Air France should not use Boeing?
Aug 23, 2011, 11:38 am
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I am more of a fan of Boeing, but if AA got a good deal with Airbus I applaud them for making the best business decision. Both makers produce very good aircraft, and I think that it is in the best interest of all carriers worldwide that Airbus and Boeing compete.
Aug 23, 2011, 11:38 am
#36
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Well, the OP needs to do some additional reading to understand WHY AA ordered BOTH Boeing and Airbus. A very good article can be found here:
http://bloom.bg/qILXtF
A number of factors are listed: financing, leasing, and delivery schedule. Neither of the two manufactureres could produce planes at the rate AA wants to replace their fleet. Also AA is saddled with debt and an aging fleet.
However, I think this is all mysteriously tied to the decision to have Coke Light instead of Diet Coke. The conspiracy is far bigger than we know....
http://bloom.bg/qILXtF
A number of factors are listed: financing, leasing, and delivery schedule. Neither of the two manufactureres could produce planes at the rate AA wants to replace their fleet. Also AA is saddled with debt and an aging fleet.
However, I think this is all mysteriously tied to the decision to have Coke Light instead of Diet Coke. The conspiracy is far bigger than we know....
Aug 23, 2011, 11:39 am
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It doesn't matter. Most of America belongs to China already, so everything is un-American, err... Chinese! Long live Mao! 
Aug 23, 2011, 11:43 am
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No. Making good business decisions is what the global shareholders of AA stock require.
Aug 23, 2011, 11:51 am
#39
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Well, let's suspend logic and proper use of analogies for a moment to analyze the text below:
Yeah, no. Your original post actually used the term "anti-American"--which is by definition a political term. While America can in fact also refer to a geographical region, you used the term to refer to a socio-political organization. Asking people if they would fly if there was less room in coach would--while not being a particularly interesting or enlightening question--at least be a politically-neutral question.
Your question, while much more interesting than the question in your failed analogy, is more closely akin to this one: are we all protectionists? An even better question, of course, is this: would we prefer American Airlines continue to fly older, less efficient planes longer so that we can be assured that they will all be produced by Boeing? I for one am happy that the fleet will be updated much more quickly--and yes, this assumes that Boeing would not have the capacity to fill American's FULL order with only Boeing craft--they don't. I'll bet you dollars to pesos they actually don't fill the order they got on time.
So to answer your question: I couldn't care less where the planes come from. If they're newer, safer, and more environmentally friendly, I've checked off three boxes that I care about--all of which could not be checked if all the new planes were coming from Boeing--speaking of which, still waiting for my first ride on the 787--which was supposed to happen what, two years ago?
No, I didn't. The bulk was for European planes. The thread asks a rather valid question that nobody else has been asking. It's not a political question, it's a question of how people make their buying decisions for a particular airline. It's no different than if I were asking if people would spend less money with AA when they removed their more room throughout coach policy.
Your question, while much more interesting than the question in your failed analogy, is more closely akin to this one: are we all protectionists? An even better question, of course, is this: would we prefer American Airlines continue to fly older, less efficient planes longer so that we can be assured that they will all be produced by Boeing? I for one am happy that the fleet will be updated much more quickly--and yes, this assumes that Boeing would not have the capacity to fill American's FULL order with only Boeing craft--they don't. I'll bet you dollars to pesos they actually don't fill the order they got on time.
So to answer your question: I couldn't care less where the planes come from. If they're newer, safer, and more environmentally friendly, I've checked off three boxes that I care about--all of which could not be checked if all the new planes were coming from Boeing--speaking of which, still waiting for my first ride on the 787--which was supposed to happen what, two years ago?
Aug 23, 2011, 11:59 am
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Gee, American Eagle, AA's regional subsidiary has been flying Canadian and Brazilian planes too. They must be un-American! 
Aug 23, 2011, 12:12 pm
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That's not how this planet runs anymore.
Aug 23, 2011, 12:24 pm
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What happened to "all people are the same to God"?
Do Airbus employees have a lesser right to their paycheck?
This thread title is so wrong on so many moral grounds it's quite scary.
Do Airbus employees have a lesser right to their paycheck?
This thread title is so wrong on so many moral grounds it's quite scary.
Aug 23, 2011, 12:26 pm
#43
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I simply refuse to risk my life by flying in an Airbus aircraft. They have a proven disaster-record, and my life is too valuable to set foot in one of those death traps.
Aug 23, 2011, 3:09 pm
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