Coronavirus + NH
#46
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Am I reading this waiver correctly? It allows for free changes on intra-Japan flights but not free cancellation?
As part of our trip (that we are likely canceling) I have a paid J/Premium Class ticket for NRT - ITM (only the one way -- it's a Super Value Premium 28 fare). Trying to figure out my options for that one -- if we have to forfeit it that's just how it goes but if I can get a full refund or even a credit that I can use if we postpone to the fall. If I try to cancel on the website there is a penalty that equates to roughly half the ticket price:
As part of our trip (that we are likely canceling) I have a paid J/Premium Class ticket for NRT - ITM (only the one way -- it's a Super Value Premium 28 fare). Trying to figure out my options for that one -- if we have to forfeit it that's just how it goes but if I can get a full refund or even a credit that I can use if we postpone to the fall. If I try to cancel on the website there is a penalty that equates to roughly half the ticket price:
#47
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Japan
Programs: NH Diamond, JL JGC Diamond, BA Gold Guest List(Gold for life), CX Diamond
Posts: 1,580
For domestic flights (28Feb to 19Mar), you can cancel and get full refund, or change date without handling charge.
Japanese page doesn't have restriction of new travel date.
Japanese page doesn't have restriction of new travel date.
#48
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 258
Am I reading this waiver correctly? It allows for free changes on intra-Japan flights but not free cancellation?
As part of our trip (that we are likely canceling) I have a paid J/Premium Class ticket for NRT - ITM (only the one way -- it's a Super Value Premium 28 fare). Trying to figure out my options for that one -- if we have to forfeit it that's just how it goes but if I can get a full refund or even a credit that I can use if we postpone to the fall. If I try to cancel on the website there is a penalty that equates to roughly half the ticket price:
As part of our trip (that we are likely canceling) I have a paid J/Premium Class ticket for NRT - ITM (only the one way -- it's a Super Value Premium 28 fare). Trying to figure out my options for that one -- if we have to forfeit it that's just how it goes but if I can get a full refund or even a credit that I can use if we postpone to the fall. If I try to cancel on the website there is a penalty that equates to roughly half the ticket price:
It took a 30 minute phone call with the agent calling NH, but it was pretty cut and dry cancellations were allowed.
#50
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,381
as the screenshot mentioned, applicable flight = NH-marketed or NH-operated flight.
so if you bought a NH-codeshare operated by SQ-metal (aka NH-marketed), plated/bought from NH, this NH waiver would work
(yes, it's also possible to buy SQ-flight# operated by SQ-metal, plated/bought from NH. a little murky and you may have to argue/escalate with NH a little)
#51
Join Date: Feb 2013
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the airline you bought from 'owns' the ticket (until day of travel)
as the screenshot mentioned, applicable flight = NH-marketed or NH-operated flight.
so if you bought a NH-codeshare operated by SQ-metal, plated/bought from NH, this NH waiver would work
(yes, it's also possible to buy SQ-flight operated by SQ-metal, plated/bought from NH. a little murky and you may have to argue/escalate it a little)
as the screenshot mentioned, applicable flight = NH-marketed or NH-operated flight.
so if you bought a NH-codeshare operated by SQ-metal, plated/bought from NH, this NH waiver would work
(yes, it's also possible to buy SQ-flight operated by SQ-metal, plated/bought from NH. a little murky and you may have to argue/escalate it a little)
Last edited by Stgermainparis; Feb 29, 2020 at 10:21 am
#52
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,381
So sounds to me like NH would have to accommodate you, though, if SQ or other metal (in my case AC) canceled. If other metal had a waiver but NH didn't, sounds like you can't invoke the waiver. Sigh. OTOH if thing are still crazy by the time of my trip, I would hope the airlines would work together with pax to get the best solution.
#53
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 611
I read the waiver as any flights into/out of Japan, including US-Japan. Are you saying it is only domestic? Or just that domestic flights have more flexibility with travel changes?
#55
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 258
Here is the link I have been using to check restrictions and exceptions for all Asian countries. I expect it to be updated soon...
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...trictions.html
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...trictions.html
#56
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DEN (ex-MCI)
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There's also a lot of info (infection rates, tourism closures, etc) being tracked on this reddit thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/JapanTravel...guidelines_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/JapanTravel...guidelines_on/
#57
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 21
A data point. I had booked a non-refundable (economy K class) flight from MAA to NRT on ANA's website. Until last week, the Cancel button on my Manage Booking page displayed a popup when I click on it, saying something like - this ticket cannot be canceled, please contact our customer service.
I called ANA customer service this morning and asked them if I can cancel my non-refundable ticket (and get a refund) because of corona virus. The rep said yes I can and asked me to cancel the reservation from the Manage Booking page. After which she will be able to process the refund from her end. I told her I had already tried that before, it doesn't work; she asked me to try it again. With her on the line, I clicked on the Cancel button and this time it took me to a page asking if I really want to cancel my reservation and so on. And I was able to successfully cancel the ticket online. It said the refund amount cannot be determined, but the rep said I will get the full money back to my credit card.
I called ANA customer service this morning and asked them if I can cancel my non-refundable ticket (and get a refund) because of corona virus. The rep said yes I can and asked me to cancel the reservation from the Manage Booking page. After which she will be able to process the refund from her end. I told her I had already tried that before, it doesn't work; she asked me to try it again. With her on the line, I clicked on the Cancel button and this time it took me to a page asking if I really want to cancel my reservation and so on. And I was able to successfully cancel the ticket online. It said the refund amount cannot be determined, but the rep said I will get the full money back to my credit card.
#59
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 123
ANA refund fare vs cancellation protection (travel insurance)
Due to the corona outbreak I am not sure of what to do with a planned trip to Japan this late June. Considering the option of buying an economy fare ticket which alows for refund and change for a fee. I suppose NH wont do much refunding for other fares unless flights are cancelled.
Would buying a cancellation protection through your travel insurance do it better than their more expensive fares?
Never had the need of such and most travel insurance only cover serious illness during trip..
Would buying a cancellation protection through your travel insurance do it better than their more expensive fares?
Never had the need of such and most travel insurance only cover serious illness during trip..
#60
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Posts: 632
Seems like it would be pretty easy to compare the costs between these two options. But for insurance you'd have to buy a Cancel For Any Reason policy since coronavirus is not a covered condition by regular travel policies. That insurance is more expensive and (typically) maxes out at 75% of the money lost, so you'd need to include in your calculations that you'd still be responsible for 25% of the cost.