Social Distance Seat Blocking (Through 1/6/2021)
#541
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By contrast, DL has clearly made it a priority to enforce the mask rule. They have "enforcers" walking around in the SkyClubs politely asking guests to wear their mask. Their FAs are required to make regular passes through the cabin to enforce compliance. On two occasions when I've raised noncompliance with an FA, they have promptly and firmly enforced the rule. One of them immediately escalated to the pilot who had a brief chat with the passenger in question.
The difference between the two airlines' enforcement of their face covering rules is night and day.
At the gate, I've had five flights on AS in the past 20 where the GA has made the announcement that they may not be able to space everyone out, but in all of these cases, they have asked passengers to check in to ask them to move their originally assigned or selected seats and have only ended up needing to seat people next to each other on 1 flight. This was after they have asked for consent from everyone involved to do so. My DL experience has overall been 100% in around 12 flights, but there are reports on the DL Forum where changes to capacity caps are causing other posters to report instances of sitting next to strangers.
Inflight, my experience has generally been good with mask enforcement from FAs on both airlines, although my experience has been that AS flight attendants pass through the cabin more often than DL, likely due to the higher service levels currently offered by the airlines, so that gives them more opportunities to enforce mask wearing.
So overall, I would disagree that the two airline's enforcement of safety protocols are "night and day", but again that's just one person's experience against another. I still value flying on both airlines and would select either airline over others based on what schedule and cost were better for me.
#542
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I've also flown a bunch of times since March, but on limited routes (various Los Angeles airports to PDX and back) where mask compliance is generally pretty good anyway. I've seen at least one pax get offloaded for refusing to keep his mask on.
#543
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With yet another airline removing seat blocking (JetBlue), I think the writing is on the wall and AS will stop seat blocking after 1/6/21.....I've enjoyed the extra space in Y, but as I've probably said before, that is not a sustainable model. Hopefully we'll see the return of advance U space when seat blocking in F goes away (fingers crossed).
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/j...ec-1-2020.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/j...ec-1-2020.html
#544
Join Date: Aug 2018
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With yet another airline removing seat blocking (JetBlue), I think the writing is on the wall and AS will stop seat blocking after 1/6/21.....I've enjoyed the extra space in Y, but as I've probably said before, that is not a sustainable model. Hopefully we'll see the return of advance U space when seat blocking in F goes away.
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/j...ec-1-2020.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/j...ec-1-2020.html
#545
Join Date: Dec 2018
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+1. Over 50 segs this year, the vast majority after March 1. Routinely hear the GA and FA announce “ requirements”. Have observed some wearing vented masks being informed they “ must” cover over with a non vented mask or wear a different mask.
#546
Join Date: Sep 2011
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As an interesting data point, with the December/January schedule changes, all of my QX and OO E175 flights have removed the block of 1C for the FA. I thought it might be a glitch, but they've stayed that way for 6 days now.
Also of note, the left aisles were blocked on these aircraft in Y previously, but that's also been eliminated. (I'm specifically looking at LAX-MSO, but it's consistent throughout all the E175 and Q400 flights.). As noted now on the website, only mainline has blocking in Y through 1/6/2021. They're still capping sales of F fleet wide though thru 1/6, I also verified that.
Also of note, the left aisles were blocked on these aircraft in Y previously, but that's also been eliminated. (I'm specifically looking at LAX-MSO, but it's consistent throughout all the E175 and Q400 flights.). As noted now on the website, only mainline has blocking in Y through 1/6/2021. They're still capping sales of F fleet wide though thru 1/6, I also verified that.
#547
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Is AS blocking F seats for upgrades as well? Noticed that on my recent flights there were open seats but they didn’t upgrade people on the upgrade list. And now on my flight today it shows F zeroed out but half the seats are open on the seat map (yeah I know it’s not perfect indicator but is exactly half open).
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
Last edited by olouie; Oct 31, 2020 at 4:34 am
#548
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Is AS blocking F seats for upgrades as well? Noticed that on my recent flights there were open seats but they didn’t upgrade people on the upgrade list. And now on my flight today it shows F zeroed out but half the seats are open on the seat map (yeah I know it’s not perfect indicator but is exactly half open).
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
It is possible they didn’t fill those seats due to load and balancing concerns, or the GA just didn’t do that task.
#549
Join Date: Mar 2007
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AFAIK - No. Once at gate control, the GA should process the upgrade list, according to social distancing policy (eg strangers don’t sit next to each other).
It is possible they didn’t fill those seats due to load and balancing concerns, or the GA just didn’t do that task.
It is possible they didn’t fill those seats due to load and balancing concerns, or the GA just didn’t do that task.
#550
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Is AS blocking F seats for upgrades as well? Noticed that on my recent flights there were open seats but they didn’t upgrade people on the upgrade list. And now on my flight today it shows F zeroed out but half the seats are open on the seat map (yeah I know it’s not perfect indicator but is exactly half open).
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
Kind of interesting that whole rows went unused as people travelling together sat together in same rows.
#551
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For my flights in Dec/Jan, they're selling 8 of 12, with no FA seat blocked, so technically it seems to have increased to 66.6%
#552
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Although this too seems to have changed, at least for the cap in F on E175s. As I noted a few posts above, non-mainline has changed with FA seat blocking, and it seems the cap as well.
For my flights in Dec/Jan, they're selling 8 of 12, with no FA seat blocked, so technically it seems to have increased to 66.6%
For my flights in Dec/Jan, they're selling 8 of 12, with no FA seat blocked, so technically it seems to have increased to 66.6%
#553
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That leaves a lot of room for interpretation of gate agents... not sure how that will work out
#554
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#555
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Just flew SMF to SEA last week. GAs upgraded people to fill all seats leaving only 1C unoccupied. Was extremely surprised to find someone next to me in 2D. First time since before March that has happened. It was a Horizon E175. Flying in and out of SEA SFO or SJC has not been that way.
Last edited by ctporter; Nov 2, 2020 at 11:14 am Reason: had wrong seat number