BA J/F awards completely gone?
Feb 2, 2020, 3:34 pm
#61
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It also seems that AS is keeping part of the "fuel surcharges" for themselves. For example, an one-way award BOS-LHR on 5/1/2020 (or any other date) is priced by AS at 60,000 miles + $687 whereas AA charges 57,500 miles + $279.
Feb 2, 2020, 4:16 pm
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I am in a similar situation.
I like using award miles to fly to Europe in J, but ever since the departure of AF/DL/KL and the impending departure of AA, my feeling is that Mileage Plan miles have become almost impossible to use and close to being worthless to me. The only carriers I see offered from BOS are either BA or EI: BA has ridiculously high fuel surcharges while EI requires an outrageously high number of miles.
Sorry, but I won't be booking BA either and crediting them to AS.
I like using award miles to fly to Europe in J, but ever since the departure of AF/DL/KL and the impending departure of AA, my feeling is that Mileage Plan miles have become almost impossible to use and close to being worthless to me. The only carriers I see offered from BOS are either BA or EI: BA has ridiculously high fuel surcharges while EI requires an outrageously high number of miles.
Sorry, but I won't be booking BA either and crediting them to AS.
Feb 2, 2020, 5:12 pm
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Who said anything about threaten? I don't really care what it is AS decides to do, carrot or stick, to try to right the situation -- bottom line is they are going to lose high margin business if they don't, and likewise I'll stop booking premium cabin fares on BA and crediting it to Alaska. The mix of traveler profiles in the relationship today - and the relevant economics thereof - is not one I think you have any firsthand insight into, but welcome you to prove me wrong..
Feb 2, 2020, 10:09 pm
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They is both AS and BA. Perhaps BA would prefer I book with and credit to them, but that's not going to happen so it's not relevant here.
Feb 3, 2020, 5:22 am
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I suspect this is rather a corner case but OK. Quite sincerely (since it would definitely be in my interest as an AS MP member) good luck telling airlines they need to care about people who won’t credit their loyalty program when deciding how rewarding to make their loyalty program to their own members. This generally doesn’t happen.
Feb 3, 2020, 6:47 am
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I suspect this is rather a corner case but OK. Quite sincerely (since it would definitely be in my interest as an AS MP member) good luck telling airlines they need to care about people who won’t credit their loyalty program when deciding how rewarding to make their loyalty program to their own members. This generally doesn’t happen.
Feb 4, 2020, 2:34 pm
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I received the following reply from Alaska Airlines regarding my inquiry as to the lack of award space in F and J on B.A.:
Thank you for contacting Alaska Airlines Customer Care.
There has not been any partnership changes with British Airways. I would recommend giving our Reservations Department a call and a Representative can assist with your questions about the award travel on British Airways. Please contact Reservations directly at 1-800-252-7522, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.Not much useful information here.
Thank you for contacting Alaska Airlines Customer Care.
There has not been any partnership changes with British Airways. I would recommend giving our Reservations Department a call and a Representative can assist with your questions about the award travel on British Airways. Please contact Reservations directly at 1-800-252-7522, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Feb 4, 2020, 2:39 pm
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I received the following reply from Alaska Airlines regarding my inquiry as to the lack of award space in F and J on B.A.:
Thank you for contacting Alaska Airlines Customer Care.
There has not been any partnership changes with British Airways. I would recommend giving our Reservations Department a call and a Representative can assist with your questions about the award travel on British Airways. Please contact Reservations directly at 1-800-252-7522, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.Not much useful information here.
Thank you for contacting Alaska Airlines Customer Care.
There has not been any partnership changes with British Airways. I would recommend giving our Reservations Department a call and a Representative can assist with your questions about the award travel on British Airways. Please contact Reservations directly at 1-800-252-7522, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
I doubt things are going to change soon. AS should start limiting AS seats for folks who are redeeming Avios to go to Hawaii etc.just to be churlish.
Feb 5, 2020, 12:21 am
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I haven't been over here much (okay, okay! Enough with the celebration!!) but I couldn't help but notice this thread filled with five pages of mostly speculation. If I may add one thing - I peruse the BA availability fairly often and when I do, I'm looking for one thing - and one thing ONLY. That one thing is First Class availability. Sorry, no interest in Business Class. Up until about a month and a half ago, First Class was a pretty easy find on the routes I was interested in - JNB to LHR and LHR to most any North American gateway. These days - it's a needle in a haystack. It's looking like if I want BA First, I may need to call SFO777 and pay the man his fee for finding me a seat.
In the meantime, I can only pray that it's some kind of computer glitch that'll soon be rectified.
FWIW, I also used to see a lot of First Class availability on JAL. Not so anymore.
In the meantime, I can only pray that it's some kind of computer glitch that'll soon be rectified.
FWIW, I also used to see a lot of First Class availability on JAL. Not so anymore.
Feb 5, 2020, 9:03 am
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I haven't been over here much (okay, okay! Enough with the celebration!!) but I couldn't help but notice this thread filled with five pages of mostly speculation. If I may add one thing - I peruse the BA availability fairly often and when I do, I'm looking for one thing - and one thing ONLY. That one thing is First Class availability. Sorry, no interest in Business Class. Up until about a month and a half ago, First Class was a pretty easy find on the routes I was interested in - JNB to LHR and LHR to most any North American gateway. These days - it's a needle in a haystack. It's looking like if I want BA First, I may need to call SFO777 and pay the man his fee for finding me a seat.
In the meantime, I can only pray that it's some kind of computer glitch that'll soon be rectified.
FWIW, I also used to see a lot of First Class availability on JAL. Not so anymore.
In the meantime, I can only pray that it's some kind of computer glitch that'll soon be rectified.
FWIW, I also used to see a lot of First Class availability on JAL. Not so anymore.
Feb 7, 2020, 9:41 am
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Feb 7, 2020, 8:12 pm
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