Sep 26, 2019, 6:52 pm
Last edit by: Mwenenzi
Qantas routes Australia to/from USA Canada
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
BNE-LAX B330
MEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
GeneralMEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Consolidated Qantas (QF) Awards Availability/Booking/Routing Thread
May 18, 2022, 3:23 pm
#571
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 34
I have seen awards released to QF and BA but not AA and AS.
YMMV, but I've set up expert flyer alerts and when it hits, the space is generally available at AA and AS.
I'm sure someone on here will be able to legitimately contradict that, but I've had a few data points that worked out that way.
YMMV, but I've set up expert flyer alerts and when it hits, the space is generally available at AA and AS.
I'm sure someone on here will be able to legitimately contradict that, but I've had a few data points that worked out that way.
May 18, 2022, 4:51 pm
#572
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,652
Thanks for replying! That seems to be the case for me. I'm not seeing those awards in AS, AA, or expert flyer. I guess calling AS won't help either? (I know I can just call and try myself, but I don't have a specific time or even date range for my trip yet. Just playing around to understand how this works.)
QF is releasing F awards to AA, and they've doubled up the frequency on the A388, so depending on what you're looking for, awards are out there.
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May 18, 2022, 5:35 pm
#573
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: NZ
Posts: 1,554
I apologize if this has been asked in this thread before... If I see QF award availability on both QF and BA, but not on AS website, does that mean the ticket is there and I need to talk to an AS agent and book over phone, or the ticket is not available for booking with AS miles? The flight I'm looking at is MEL-LAX, so I'm not sure if point of sales may also come into play in this case.
May 19, 2022, 7:39 pm
#575
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
QF offers more award availability to its own FF members so checking QF isn't going to give you a good idea of what AS might have. Not sure whether BA hs better availibility than other QF partners, but they may. I doubt that calling in will help, but as you say there is no harm in trying.
May 20, 2022, 9:04 am
#576
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: AS MVPG100, Hyatt Globalist, MGM Gold, Caesars Diamond
Posts: 636
I picked up a few single Qantas J flights but that was month or two ago. Using AS I mean. I have the J MEL-LAX end of Nov, have not found and YVR-MEL in J for 2 in Dec
May 26, 2022, 10:26 pm
#577
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: Air New Zealand Elite
Posts: 446
Hi
Just wondering has anyone had any trouble getting through to American airlines international call centre lately?
I had fares with QF on hold, AKL-SYD. When I went to confirm them online I couldn't process the hold, neither on the desktop site nor with the app. It appeared that when I went to put my credit card number in, which is an NZ one, it wouldn't accept it, saying the fares were on put hold on the US site and needed a US credit card. When I tried to ring AA on their Sydney line it kept going to voicemail for several days. Very annoying as I could not confirm those fares on hold and then had to pay for cash fares that had gone up a lot.
Just wondering has anyone had any trouble getting through to American airlines international call centre lately?
I had fares with QF on hold, AKL-SYD. When I went to confirm them online I couldn't process the hold, neither on the desktop site nor with the app. It appeared that when I went to put my credit card number in, which is an NZ one, it wouldn't accept it, saying the fares were on put hold on the US site and needed a US credit card. When I tried to ring AA on their Sydney line it kept going to voicemail for several days. Very annoying as I could not confirm those fares on hold and then had to pay for cash fares that had gone up a lot.
May 26, 2022, 11:36 pm
#578
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,026
Just wondering has anyone had any trouble getting through to American airlines international call centre lately?
I had fares with QF on hold, AKL-SYD. When I went to confirm them online I couldn't process the hold, neither on the desktop site nor with the app. It appeared that when I went to put my credit card number in, which is an NZ one, it wouldn't accept it, saying the fares were on put hold on the US site and needed a US credit card. When I tried to ring AA on their Sydney line it kept going to voicemail for several days. Very annoying as I could not confirm those fares on hold and then had to pay for cash fares that had gone up a lot.
I had fares with QF on hold, AKL-SYD. When I went to confirm them online I couldn't process the hold, neither on the desktop site nor with the app. It appeared that when I went to put my credit card number in, which is an NZ one, it wouldn't accept it, saying the fares were on put hold on the US site and needed a US credit card. When I tried to ring AA on their Sydney line it kept going to voicemail for several days. Very annoying as I could not confirm those fares on hold and then had to pay for cash fares that had gone up a lot.
The AA QF thread ---> AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
Did you have a cash fare on hold or an AA award on hold? Would expect AA could not sell a trans Tasman cash fare.
With the AA zone system AU NZ is often poor value (short flight) compared to cash fares. Even now with high TT fares.
May 27, 2022, 10:06 am
#579
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 56
Anyone know how late you can cancel a Qantas domestic award? I booked a cash fare SYD-CNS, but I'm thinking of booking with miles an earlier flight incase I clear customs/immigration sooner and don't have to wait around (1h 45 min layover vs 3 hour 45 layover). Obviously if I can't make it I would be cancelling with less than an hours notice, the Alaska FAQ says to just notify them prior to the flight departs. I've looked into standby flights with Qantas but the cash fare I bought won't allow it/would be cost prohibitive. Arriving into SYD on Air Canada
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May 27, 2022, 2:08 pm
#580
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,026
Anyone know how late you can cancel a Qantas domestic award? I booked a cash fare SYD-CNS, but I'm thinking of booking with miles an earlier flight incase I clear customs/immigration sooner and don't have to wait around (1h 45 min layover vs 3 hour 45 layover). Obviously if I can't make it I would be cancelling with less than an hours notice, the Alaska FAQ says to just notify them prior to the flight departs. I've looked into standby flights with Qantas but the cash fare I bought won't allow it/would be cost prohibitive. Arriving into SYD on Air Canada
QF link--->Refunding, cancelling or changing a Reward flight booking
FT QF forum thread-->Refund Rules on Classic Rewards Flight
If you cancel a cash ticket check carefully on cash refund vs flight credit voucher.
QF -->Cancel flights
May 27, 2022, 9:18 pm
#581
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
May 27, 2022, 10:24 pm
#582
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Anyone know how late you can cancel a Qantas domestic award? I booked a cash fare SYD-CNS, but I'm thinking of booking with miles an earlier flight incase I clear customs/immigration sooner and don't have to wait around (1h 45 min layover vs 3 hour 45 layover). Obviously if I can't make it I would be cancelling with less than an hours notice, the Alaska FAQ says to just notify them prior to the flight departs. I've looked into standby flights with Qantas but the cash fare I bought won't allow it/would be cost prohibitive. Arriving into SYD on Air Canada
As long as the flight hasn't departed, you can cancel the AS award. Just under an hour shouldn't be a problem; it is still ~40 minutes before boarding.
James
May 28, 2022, 8:27 am
#583
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 56
QF is very efficient at boarding. For domestic flights, the gate doesn't open until 20 minutes before departure and closes 10 minutes before departure. I flew SYD-MEL on an A330. Gate opened at T-20m and we pushed back 19 minutes later. They also board 737s from the front & via stairs at the back simultaneously. If you are in the back half they divert you in the jetway down the stairs and you walk out across the tarmac to the rear door.
As long as the flight hasn't departed, you can cancel the AS award. Just under an hour shouldn't be a problem; it is still ~40 minutes before boarding.
James
As long as the flight hasn't departed, you can cancel the AS award. Just under an hour shouldn't be a problem; it is still ~40 minutes before boarding.
James
May 28, 2022, 11:43 am
#584
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
When I try to find AS award flights LAX-SYD, from Apr 11 all the way out to Apr 24, I am never offered QF flights. Just Korean or Singapore for Biz 125k or worse! (Apr 17 is what I really wanted.)
Which is very frustrating given all the posts I see. Do those dates work for you?
I just noticed that for DFW-SYD, QF is available on Apr 12 and 14, but not 13, or 15 and later.Is the 17th too far out for QF? Wait 3 days and maybe DFW-SYD on 17th will be available?
UPDATE: And now 19th is an option. Looks like every MWF except 17th. HOWEVER! On closer examination, all the routes are DFW-MEL-SYD, with the first leg in Econ!?!
So now I'm back to head-scratching. Advice?
Which is very frustrating given all the posts I see. Do those dates work for you?
I just noticed that for DFW-SYD, QF is available on Apr 12 and 14, but not 13, or 15 and later.
UPDATE: And now 19th is an option. Looks like every MWF except 17th. HOWEVER! On closer examination, all the routes are DFW-MEL-SYD, with the first leg in Econ!?!
So now I'm back to head-scratching. Advice?
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May 28, 2022, 11:59 am
#585
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
Thank you! Like I said the biggest thing would be making the connection as I know clearing customs right in the morning can be a long time given a lot of international flights arrive at the same time, and then you have to move terminals etc. I'll give Alaska a call to confirm cancellation policy but I appreciate the boarding info! The earlier flight is on a A330, and currently booked on their 737.