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(ex-Air Pacific)

NOTE: AA seems not to be able to see FJ award inventory. Try calling AA Australia (+61 2-9101-1948 ) then press 4 - or the New Zealand number (+64 09-308-4014) as an alternative - although the call center is actually in Suva, Fiji (I believe it's our old South African agency friend Mindpearl) - as they can see the inventory reliably, and you can book. Or, put the FJ segments on hold so you can flesh out the award afterward and/or pay the fees in USD through the US call center.

Air Pacific (46% Qantas owned, 51% Fiji government owned) rebranded as Fiji Airways (as of June 2013 - follow the topic and changes here: Air Pacific becoming Fiji Airways (again) & securing three A330-200s (2013) in the Other Asian, Australian and South Pacific Frequent Flyer Programs. In 2016, an A330-300 initiated service NAN-LAX, and in 2017 NAN-SFO.

New aircraft, configuration, new baggage limits etc. for 2016 are in this FT thread.

Fiji Airways is still an AA partner (as well as a codeshare partner of AS, CX, EY, IE, NZ and QF). The partnership has not changed - one earns redeemable (Award) AA miles flying as FJ, AA EQ miles can be earned if flown as AA or QF codeshares (often more expensive); no EQ miles if flown as AS or CX codeshares (as FJ is not a oneworld member).

Business (née Tambua) Class in both (three) A330-200 and (one) -300: 24 Zodiac / Weber 7811 8 degree from horizontal angled lie-flats with A/C and USB, 15.4" screen with Panasonic eX2 AVOD in 2 x 2 x 2 configuration. (The SQ leased 747 offered 28 Tabua seats - not much of a loss here.)

Economy (née Pacific Voyager) Class: 249 (289 in-300) Weber 5751 slim-line with IFE, A/C and USB power in a 2 x 4 x 2 configuration with 31-32" pitch and 7.5" total recline (6" seat back movement, 1.5" seat base movement) and 9" Panasonic touchscreen AVOD with controls in the seatback (not armrest). (747 offered 430 with 32" in Pacific Voyager, a major seat capacity reduction.)

Starting your trip in Nadi in. Business Class you will be able to access the new Fiji Airways Premier Lounge (but as FJ is not a oneworld airline, status alone won’t get you in).

"Bula", pronounced mboo-lah, short for "ni sa bula", merely is the typical Fijian "hello" and "welcome"; it's not a class of service. Fiji Airways Premier Lounge is the name for their NAN lounge and VIP club; it is costly and bureaucratically challenging to join - but if you're flying FJ a lot, it offers an additional checked in bag, lounge access and other perqs.[/quote]

Resource links:

Link to aa.com page on earning / spending miles on Fiji Airways (may still be referred to as "Air Pacific" on some parts of aa.com)

Link to Fiji Airways new website

Link to Fiji Airways route map

Link to Fiji Airways fleet information

Link to Fiji Airways baggage allowance tables

Link to rebranding article showcasing new appearance, symbology, etc.

Link to A330-200 seat diagram (PDF document)

The USA will see Fiji Airways A330-300 flight to Los Angeles on January 2016. See Link[/B][/U] to article with photos; link to page with information, photos and video (Australian Business Traveller). And FJ serves SFO on select days.

Link to Airline Reporter illustrated article on the new Fiji Airways A330-200 product.
Code:
OUR FLEET
 Fiji Airways flights are available on modern Boeing and Airbus 
 aircraft, ranging from the 122 seat 737-700 to the brand new 
 A330-200 seating 273. Passengers will enjoy the comfort of our 
 modern fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft, or one of the new Airbus 
 A330-200 aircraft (and new A330-300).
 
 Boeing 737-700 (one)
 Total capacity: 122
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 114 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 29-32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Boeing 737-800 (five, adding three more)
 Total capacity: 164
 Saleable configuration: 8 Business Class | 156 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 48" pitch, 18" recline, in-seat video with 
 6 video channels and 10 audio channels
 Economy Class seating: 32" pitch, 6" recline. Drop down screens 
 every 3 rows, with main screen video and 10 audio channels.
 
 Airbus A330-200 (three)
 Total capacity: 273
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 249 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 Airbus A330-300 (one)
 Total capacity: 313
 Saleable configuration: 24 Business Class | 289 Economy Class
 Business Class seating: 60" pitch, 8 degree angled lie flat bed, in-seat 
 video with 15.4” monitors, in-seat power and entertainment on demand
 Economy Class seating: 31-32" pitch, 7.5" recline, in-seat video with 
 10.6” monitors, in-seat USB power and entertainment on demand
 
 De Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otters Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 12
 
 ATR 42-500 Fleet (Operated by Pacific Sun)
 Total capacity: 42
”On May 2, 2019. Fiji Airways announced its intention to lease 2 Airbus A350-900 as a part of their fleet expansion, these will operate routes to Australia, New Zealand and The United States of America . They will be delivered between November and December 2019. They have been leased from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.[14] These A350 frames were supposedly going to be delivered to Hong Kong Airlines however following the cancellation of their order,they were purchased by Dubai Aerospace Enterprise.” — Wikipedia
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Old Oct 11, 12, 11:35 pm
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FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)

Fiji Airways is the rebranded Air Pacific...

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Old Feb 7, 13, 3:53 pm
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Air Pacific Tabua Class via AA Miles? [award]

Hi, I was wondering if anybody ever had any success in booking Business (aka Tabua) Class on Air Pacific using AA Miles? I was able to book an Economy Award from NAN to LAX and was told that I should just keep on calling American Airlines Reservation to see if a Business Class Award seat opened up (as the miles requirement is no different) because Air Pacific awards are not available online. Before I put myself through the pain of calling AA Rez every couple of days to check, wanted to see if it was even worth the effort. Would appreciate your thoughts! Thanks!
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Old Feb 8, 13, 1:47 pm
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You can check FJ availability online at QFF, which is free to join. I think that an AA economy award (37500 miles) will not get you into Tabua (J) which is 62500 miles.
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It is possible FJ will open a Tabua Class seat at some point - or not; there is no way to predict it. You may also be able to purchase a counter upgrade (read on for most current pricing).

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Old Feb 8, 13, 4:44 pm
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You might also consider NAN-HNL on FJ and HNL-LAX on AA. This is also searchable online at QFF.
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Originally Posted by ThanxsisC View Post
Hi, I was wondering if anybody ever had any success in booking Business (aka Tabua) Class on Air Pacific using AA Miles? I was able to book an Economy Award from NAN to LAX and was told that I should just keep on calling American Airlines Reservation to see if a Business Class Award seat opened up (as the miles requirement is no different) because Air Pacific awards are not available online. Before I put myself through the pain of calling AA Rez every couple of days to check, wanted to see if it was even worth the effort. Would appreciate your thoughts! Thanks!
I have had luck booking LAX - NAN - AKL (two seats in Tabua) and LAX - NAN not once, but twice. Call me lucky. Enjoyed Tabua class, the food, a chance to hang out in the NAN airport on the way to New Zealand (nice little club in the LL of the airport). Good luck!
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I've also booked AKL-NAN and NAN-LAX for two on both legs in Tabua. So it is possible. But we did book well in advance 300+ days.
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Thank You!!

Thanks everybody so much for all your help! I'm so happy I can check via Qantas as calling everyday did not sound appealing to me at all. I'll keep my fingers crossed that something opens up on my travel date. Sadly I'm traveling on 12/31 so will have to be very lucky.
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I'd assume J award availability on FJ is decent given how commonly they offer counter upgrades. I did NAN-LAX return recently (paid cash for it) in J and the cabin was always full, but I did wonder how many paid full fare.

Am also wondering if it will get more scarce/expensive when they replace the 744s with A333s later this year.
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My GF and I were successful in booking LAX-NAN-AKL and the return this October in award J. For LAX-NAN, she's in J and I'm in Y and I've been checking daily for award J to open so we can sit together. I figure 3 out of 4 ain't bad.

Also, we were on the 747 on LAX-NAN when we booked but it looks like they've already moved that flight to the A330. There are actually LESS seats in J on the Airbus so hopefully my chances are still good.

I say keep checking and good luck to you.
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Old Feb 22, 13, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
You may also be able to purchase a counter upgrade (US-Fiji is ~$750 iirc).
US$900 when I asked last time I flew FJ.

Then again, they maybe just didn't want to bother doing it so they picked a number from thin air and hope I wouldn't bother them further. They picked right that day.

I kinda liked how dingy FJ was. Really looking forward to the new aircraft & have just booked a ticket for later in the year when they should be flying.


ETA: Just had a look at the FJ website and a paid counter upgrade is US$1300.

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Old Feb 23, 13, 12:08 am
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Ah, yes, last time it was $900; and now $1,300, wow!

I remember when it used to be $750 US LAX-NAN and $750 Fiji Dollars NAN-LAX.

The old Singapore-leased in 747-400s were definitely showing their age. The A330s will be welcome, albeit they will indeed offer less selection for awards (and apparently significantly more expensive counter upgrades).

Ni sa moce, Air Pacific; Ni sa bula, Fiji Airways.

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US$900 when I asked last time I flew FJ.

Then again, they maybe just didn't want to bother doing it so they picked a number from thin air and hope I wouldn't bother them further. They picked right that day.

I kinda liked how dingy FJ was. Really looking forward to the new aircraft & have just booked a ticket for later in the year when they should be flying.


ETA: Just had a look at the FJ website and a paid counter upgrade is US$1300.
ThanxsisC, you did not have to call QF - you could have done the search online via their website.
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Ah, yes, last time it was $900; and now $1,300, wow!

I remember when it used to be $750 US LAX-NAN and $750 Fiji Dollars NAN-LAX.
Interestingly, booking a $1700 Y fare and adding the $1300 upgrade to J each way at the counter is still cheaper than buying J outright at $5500. (prices LAX-CHC at new year)

Looks like they do a "J seat but Y service" dep counter upgrade for $450. I think I might try that this year, assuming there are any seats available in J at that point.
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AA - Fiji Airways - Air Pacific

Looking for a flight to Fiji on AA's WEB site and Air Pacific comes up as the carrier that actually takes you there. Doing an Orbitz search and it shows AA but Fiji Air as the actual carrier. I don't suppose either one of those carriers can be used to redeem awards on.

Looked around the AA WEB site and neither was a Oneworld or affiliated airline.
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The Redeem Miles page on aa.com has a useful hyperlink.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...lines/main.jsp
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