Deconstructing Atmos Rewards - Questions, Ambiguities, Conflicts and Unknowns
Aug 22, 2025 | 10:24 pm
#31
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More ways to use upgrade certificates
You'll be able to use your upgrade certificates to join the Business Class waitlist on select international routes, including Tokyo, Seoul, and Australia.
You'll be able to use your upgrade certificates to join the Business Class waitlist on select international routes, including Tokyo, Seoul, and Australia.
Last edited by 1worldFlyer; Aug 22, 2025 at 11:02 pm
Aug 22, 2025 | 10:25 pm
#32
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Given the language we have now...its the exact opposite of what they wanted 2025 to be.....so lets see what anteater has in terms of clarifications.....heck...id love an email from AS clarifying the changes and the website updated.
Aug 22, 2025 | 10:57 pm
#33
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Aug 22, 2025 | 11:57 pm
#34
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But to speculate, I would think its revenue tickets only.
Aug 23, 2025 | 2:13 am
#35
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Until something is published from AS, IMO the jury is out.
Even then, changes can occur (in either direction) as shown by the 8.20 announcements.
Even then, changes can occur (in either direction) as shown by the 8.20 announcements.
Aug 23, 2025 | 11:27 am
#36
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AS' reply to my initial inquiry of FT questions is below. If the community thinks of anything else, feel free to let me know.
Is "1 mile flown = 1 status point" only for tickets booked on AS.com?
For miles based earn bought on partners through Alaska.com/App, will there still be a status point multiplier? If so is it staying the same?
Is there going to be an elite tier based status point multiplier (above 5 points per $) for those with higher Atmos status?
Will there still be a 500 mile minimum on miles based earn?
Will HA upgrade certs and AS GGU’s both turn into upgrade certificates (mostly answered but some people are still asking)?
Will multiple upgrade certificates be needed for long-haul flights or flights above a certain distance band?
Did AS remove the ability to purchase an unlimited number of RDM (points) for elites?
Is "1 mile flown = 1 status point" only for tickets booked on AS.com?
Status point earn matches base points + class of service bonuses earned on flights. Booking channel doesn’t matter; you earn the same on AS and HA flights no matter where booked.
For miles based earn bought on partners through Alaska.com/App, will there still be a status point multiplier? If so is it staying the same?
No. After choice earn is launched, the “distance” option will represent the actual distance flown with no class of service multipliers or minimum miles. Members that often book the premium cabins which today have class of service bonuses will likely want to choose the revenue based earn option.
Is there going to be an elite tier based status point multiplier (above 5 points per $) for those with higher Atmos status?
Yes. Status bonuses remain unchanged from today (Silver at 25%, Gold 50%, Platinum 100% and Titanium 150%), and will apply across whichever earn option the member selects.
Will there still be a 500 mile minimum on miles based earn?
No. Post-choice, distance will represent the actual flown miles only; no class of service or minimum miles.
Will HA upgrade certs and AS GGU’s both turn into upgrade certificates (mostly answered but some people are still asking)?
Yes.
Will multiple upgrade certificates be needed for long-haul flights or flights above a certain distance band?
Upgrade certificates used on Hawaiian operated flights will follow the same pricing as today, including needing two for flights >3,500 miles. There will be more details to come for Alaska operated longhaul flights.
Did AS remove the ability to purchase an unlimited number of RDM (points) for elites?
No.
Aug 23, 2025 | 11:40 am
#39
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AS' reply to my initial inquiry of FT questions is below. If the community thinks of anything else, feel free to let me know.
Is "1 mile flown = 1 status point" only for tickets booked on AS.com?
For miles based earn bought on partners through Alaska.com/App, will there still be a status point multiplier? If so is it staying the same?
Is there going to be an elite tier based status point multiplier (above 5 points per $) for those with higher Atmos status?
Will there still be a 500 mile minimum on miles based earn?
Will HA upgrade certs and AS GGUs both turn into upgrade certificates (mostly answered but some people are still asking)?
Will multiple upgrade certificates be needed for long-haul flights or flights above a certain distance band?
Did AS remove the ability to purchase an unlimited number of RDM (points) for elites?
Is "1 mile flown = 1 status point" only for tickets booked on AS.com?
Status point earn matches base points + class of service bonuses earned on flights. Booking channel doesnt matter; you earn the same on AS and HA flights no matter where booked.
For miles based earn bought on partners through Alaska.com/App, will there still be a status point multiplier? If so is it staying the same?
No. After choice earn is launched, the distance option will represent the actual distance flown with no class of service multipliers or minimum miles. Members that often book the premium cabins which today have class of service bonuses will likely want to choose the revenue based earn option.
Is there going to be an elite tier based status point multiplier (above 5 points per $) for those with higher Atmos status?
Yes. Status bonuses remain unchanged from today (Silver at 25%, Gold 50%, Platinum 100% and Titanium 150%), and will apply across whichever earn option the member selects.
Will there still be a 500 mile minimum on miles based earn?
No. Post-choice, distance will represent the actual flown miles only; no class of service or minimum miles.
Will HA upgrade certs and AS GGUs both turn into upgrade certificates (mostly answered but some people are still asking)?
Yes.
Will multiple upgrade certificates be needed for long-haul flights or flights above a certain distance band?
Upgrade certificates used on Hawaiian operated flights will follow the same pricing as today, including needing two for flights >3,500 miles. There will be more details to come for Alaska operated longhaul flights.
Did AS remove the ability to purchase an unlimited number of RDM (points) for elites?
No.
Aug 23, 2025 | 11:50 am
#40
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- to reach Atmos Silver: 20k SP @ 5 SP/$ = $4,000
- to reach Atmos Gold: (40k-20k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 0.25) SP/$ = $3,200
- to reach Atmos Platinum: (80k-40k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 0.5) SP/$ = $5,333
- to reach Atmos Titanium: (135k-80k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 1) SP/$ = $5,500
Total spend required to maintain Atmos Titanium status: $13,500
(not counting rollover perks, one-time head start bonus, or Atmos Rewards Summit card anniversary reward)
Last edited by 1worldFlyer; Aug 23, 2025 at 11:55 am
Aug 23, 2025 | 11:53 am
#41
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Thanks, anteater, for getting the details (aka confirming the worst). I’m curious how others who mostly fly when we need to be somewhere are assessing the options. Losing 500 mile minimums is bad for frequent interisland flyers, but it also hits intra-Alaska and anyone who regularly connects into or out of smaller airports through nearby hubs. Losing COS bonus hits any of us who cherry-pick decent premium fares, as well as pricey last-minute business purchases. How many others are leaning toward just biting the bullet and going revenue?
Aug 23, 2025 | 12:01 pm
#42
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Aug 23, 2025 | 12:01 pm
#43
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So to earn spend-based top status in 2026 from flying alone:
Total spend required to maintain Atmos Titanium status: $13,500
- to reach Atmos Silver: 20k SP @ 5 SP/$ = $4,000
- to reach Atmos Gold: (40k-20k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 0.25) SP/$ = $3,200
- to reach Atmos Platinum: (80k-40k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 0.5) SP/$ = $5,333
- to reach Atmos Titanium: (135k-80k) SP @ 5 * (1 + 1) SP/$ = $5,500
Total spend required to maintain Atmos Titanium status: $13,500
Atmos Rewards (Announced 8/20/2025)
Aug 23, 2025 | 12:08 pm
#44
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Would really be great if 1 mile = 1 point in that case
Aug 23, 2025 | 12:11 pm
#45
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