Successful/unsuccessful oneup bids
Oct 18, 2012, 2:19 am
#166
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NZ
Programs: NZ Gold, BA Gold, QF Silver, IHG Platinum Elite Ambassador, Accor Diamond
Posts: 1,048
In 16 years of having status with Air NZ I have been op-up'd twice (recognition and Airpoints upgrades I've lost count of).
Once was Y to C WLG-CHC in 2000, another was C to F from LAX-AKL in Dec 2002. Both times I was Gold Elite.
Maybe another thread on op-ups on NZ? Which will show how scarce they are...
Once was Y to C WLG-CHC in 2000, another was C to F from LAX-AKL in Dec 2002. Both times I was Gold Elite.
Maybe another thread on op-ups on NZ? Which will show how scarce they are...
Oct 18, 2012, 2:54 am
#167
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: NZ*E
Posts: 808
In 16 years of having status with Air NZ I have been op-up'd twice (recognition and Airpoints upgrades I've lost count of).
Once was Y to C WLG-CHC in 2000, another was C to F from LAX-AKL in Dec 2002. Both times I was Gold Elite.
Maybe another thread on op-ups on NZ? Which will show how scarce they are...
Once was Y to C WLG-CHC in 2000, another was C to F from LAX-AKL in Dec 2002. Both times I was Gold Elite.
Maybe another thread on op-ups on NZ? Which will show how scarce they are...
Oct 18, 2012, 6:58 am
#168
Join Date: Feb 2012
Programs: BA Gold, NZ*G
Posts: 204
I am guessing that op-ups are more rare now than they were pre-oneup because it gives the airline more flexibility in how it manages its loads, without giving completely free upgrades.
Last edited by craver; Oct 18, 2012 at 9:26 am
Oct 18, 2012, 9:11 pm
#169
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Too many golds, no plat: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*G, VA Gold, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 5,350
HKG-LHR successful bid
NZ39 HKG-LHR 23/10/12
PE > BP
HKD $3730 in airpoints = 588APD, +10% silver uplift
Cleared 6 days out
This bid was probably unnecessarily high, but am travelling with the other half who is using a gold comp upgrade (hasn't cleared yet) and really didn't want to be left behind in the crappy 772 PE product! Cost was mitigated by crazily cheap one way PE fare of 4600HKD, so overall I am a happy camper. I did wonder whether my cheap fare would affect my bid - does fare basis have any effect on one up?
PE > BP
HKD $3730 in airpoints = 588APD, +10% silver uplift
Cleared 6 days out
This bid was probably unnecessarily high, but am travelling with the other half who is using a gold comp upgrade (hasn't cleared yet) and really didn't want to be left behind in the crappy 772 PE product! Cost was mitigated by crazily cheap one way PE fare of 4600HKD, so overall I am a happy camper. I did wonder whether my cheap fare would affect my bid - does fare basis have any effect on one up?
Oct 19, 2012, 12:24 am
#170
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ*S plus various hotel programs
Posts: 945
It really looks like the OneUp model is working well for this flight.
If it stays this way, I wonder if they might accept the original OneUp bid at the gate?
And this was my first ever OneUp bid.
Last edited by Trumpkin; Oct 19, 2012 at 6:43 pm Reason: OneUp history added
Oct 19, 2012, 3:41 am
#171
Join Date: Feb 2012
Programs: BA Gold, NZ*G
Posts: 204
Oct 19, 2012, 5:37 pm
#172
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,984
I think the process includes a consideration of the fare paid (and possibly the product purchased), as well as frequency of previous OneUp success. Can I encourage contributors to include that information with their posts.
Oct 22, 2012, 7:07 am
#174
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,598
The SYD-AKL AU$80 bid was successful the first time. I have tried the same twice after that but were both declined. I think they do look at your previous success rate and they are giving everyone a chance. They can't possibly call this loyalty upgrade as it seems the more loyal you are the more likely you get rejected.
Oct 22, 2012, 3:31 pm
#176
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wellington
Programs: QFWP (LTSG), NZ (Jade), TG ROP (Forgotten), OZ (Silver), AA (Cardboard), EK (Lowest of the Low)
Posts: 4,669
The SYD-AKL AU$80 bid was successful the first time. I have tried the same twice after that but were both declined. I think they do look at your previous success rate and they are giving everyone a chance. They can't possibly call this loyalty upgrade as it seems the more loyal you are the more likely you get rejected.
One-Up is a revenue generator and if they are denying higher bids just because you happen to be successful in the past is illogical.
Therefore I do not believe you are correct.
I will make my own assumption, that One-Up successful bids will go up over time and there will be a route specific seasonal impact eg. peak periods will have higher bids, Fridays Trans-Tasman will be higher than Wednesday morning.
One-Up does take loyalty into consideration, based on NZ status, but it opens upgrades up to low tier on non-status passengers for a price.
Oct 22, 2012, 6:23 pm
#178
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Airpoints, HHONORS GOLD VIP, Aclub Gold
Posts: 762
I would like to know what original fare class people who have had one up clear had. do we think base fare is used in the dession making process? hence the comment above who had a bp clear at $80 may have already purchased a fare from a higher bucket. hence same bid rejected other times as base fare may have been cheaper...
thoughts??
I am waiting on an outcome for my first one up bid for Saturday morning. I have a good bid in, empty cabin but brought a cheap gas fare..
thoughts??
I am waiting on an outcome for my first one up bid for Saturday morning. I have a good bid in, empty cabin but brought a cheap gas fare..
Oct 22, 2012, 10:05 pm
#179
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,598
Are you just making an assumption that they do look at prior success rate or is this a know fact?
One-Up is a revenue generator and if they are denying higher bids just because you happen to be successful in the past is illogical.
Therefore I do not believe you are correct.
I will make my own assumption, that One-Up successful bids will go up over time and there will be a route specific seasonal impact eg. peak periods will have higher bids, Fridays Trans-Tasman will be higher than Wednesday morning.
One-Up does take loyalty into consideration, based on NZ status, but it opens upgrades up to low tier on non-status passengers for a price.
One-Up is a revenue generator and if they are denying higher bids just because you happen to be successful in the past is illogical.
Therefore I do not believe you are correct.
I will make my own assumption, that One-Up successful bids will go up over time and there will be a route specific seasonal impact eg. peak periods will have higher bids, Fridays Trans-Tasman will be higher than Wednesday morning.
One-Up does take loyalty into consideration, based on NZ status, but it opens upgrades up to low tier on non-status passengers for a price.
Oct 22, 2012, 10:47 pm
#180
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SYD
Programs: QF LTG, VASG, NZ*S, OZD, IHG SpireAMB, HHD
Posts: 1,421