Further changes: Origin and destination pricing as of June 2018
#196
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
Interesting - does this 64k entry price only for flight departing from US airport? or both departing/arriving?
so for example, would the PPT-LAX flight entry price would also be 64K?
#197
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,774
I've just randomly checked SFO-PRG in J and it costs only 61k miles on some dates. That's saving of 1.5k miles against the old scheme, or 3k miles for the whole round trip. New scheme FTW!!! .... nah
EDIT: There actually are dates where each way costs only 53k miles!!!! That's actually pretty good (less 19k miles for RT) ^
EDIT: There actually are dates where each way costs only 53k miles!!!! That's actually pretty good (less 19k miles for RT) ^
#198
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,757
#201
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
Hey guys, I know this question has been asked before but couldn't find an answer. I'm looking to book an award ticket, and as others mentioned, the dynamic pricing is VERY dynamic. Like it changed 3 times in the past week already and this is for travel next February...
Basically it went from 113k to 144k. If I book it at 144k, and it goes down to 113k again in the next weeks or months, can someone confirm if I can call up FB, pay the 45 euros fee and they can refund the difference? Or can I simply cancel my ticket (again with the 45 euros fee) and make the new booking? Or do they have rules in place to prevent people to do that?
Basically it went from 113k to 144k. If I book it at 144k, and it goes down to 113k again in the next weeks or months, can someone confirm if I can call up FB, pay the 45 euros fee and they can refund the difference? Or can I simply cancel my ticket (again with the 45 euros fee) and make the new booking? Or do they have rules in place to prevent people to do that?
#202
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,940
Hey guys, I know this question has been asked before but couldn't find an answer. I'm looking to book an award ticket, and as others mentioned, the dynamic pricing is VERY dynamic. Like it changed 3 times in the past week already and this is for travel next February...
Basically it went from 113k to 144k. If I book it at 144k, and it goes down to 113k again in the next weeks or months, can someone confirm if I can call up FB, pay the 45 euros fee and they can refund the difference? Or can I simply cancel my ticket (again with the 45 euros fee) and make the new booking? Or do they have rules in place to prevent people to do that?
Basically it went from 113k to 144k. If I book it at 144k, and it goes down to 113k again in the next weeks or months, can someone confirm if I can call up FB, pay the 45 euros fee and they can refund the difference? Or can I simply cancel my ticket (again with the 45 euros fee) and make the new booking? Or do they have rules in place to prevent people to do that?
#204
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,940
Thanks @Goldorak much appreciated. And thanks for the quoted sensible advice, I was wondering about that and it's probably safer that way indeed!
much better if you can do it like that, because you would get mad if you first cancel your booking paying EUR45 change fee and rebook...at the same price
#205
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Flying Blue Silver
Posts: 123
Hi all, I am interested in booking a ticket for someone else for summer 2019 using my miles. A couple of questions:
1a. Is it still the case that the status of the miles holder will be applied, i.e. all STE+ benefits even if the other person doesn't have a FB account?
1b. By summer 2019 I will have dropped to Gold, will the ticket still be handled as if I was Platinum if booked while still Platinum? This is for example relevant for picking / changing seats in Y that usually cost a fee.
2. In case I want to cancel the booking in a few months, do I simply call the hotline, pay the 45€ fee and get my miles and the taxes back? (Reason why I am asking this: this far out the purchase prices are very high, but usually they are half of what they cost today 2-3 months before flight date, so maybe I'd rather pay instead of using the miles).
Thanks in advance!
1a. Is it still the case that the status of the miles holder will be applied, i.e. all STE+ benefits even if the other person doesn't have a FB account?
1b. By summer 2019 I will have dropped to Gold, will the ticket still be handled as if I was Platinum if booked while still Platinum? This is for example relevant for picking / changing seats in Y that usually cost a fee.
2. In case I want to cancel the booking in a few months, do I simply call the hotline, pay the 45€ fee and get my miles and the taxes back? (Reason why I am asking this: this far out the purchase prices are very high, but usually they are half of what they cost today 2-3 months before flight date, so maybe I'd rather pay instead of using the miles).
Thanks in advance!
#206
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic, Hyatt Globalist, Alaska MVP Gold.
Posts: 1,962
1a. Good question. I know that some of the benefits show up, not sure about all.
1b. No, when the time comes to pick seats, it will check your FB level at that time, so it's best to pick those seats now. Not sure if those selections will stick (I can't see why not, though) but if you wait until you go to Gold, it'll cost you.
2. Not 100% sure on this so will defer this to others.
1b. No, when the time comes to pick seats, it will check your FB level at that time, so it's best to pick those seats now. Not sure if those selections will stick (I can't see why not, though) but if you wait until you go to Gold, it'll cost you.
2. Not 100% sure on this so will defer this to others.
#207
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CPT,AMS
Posts: 4,412
2. In case I want to cancel the booking in a few months, do I simply call the hotline, pay the 45€ fee and get my miles and the taxes back? (Reason why I am asking this: this far out the purchase prices are very high, but usually they are half of what they cost today 2-3 months before flight date, so maybe I'd rather pay instead of using the miles).
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
1a. Good question. I know that some of the benefits show up, not sure about all.
1b. No, when the time comes to pick seats, it will check your FB level at that time, so it's best to pick those seats now. Not sure if those selections will stick (I can't see why not, though) but if you wait until you go to Gold, it'll cost you.
1b. No, when the time comes to pick seats, it will check your FB level at that time, so it's best to pick those seats now. Not sure if those selections will stick (I can't see why not, though) but if you wait until you go to Gold, it'll cost you.
Other than seat selection, there isn't really any difference in benefits between Gold and Platinum
#208
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
I wonder what would happen if I released the hold I have. I mean at this point I'll probably call today, put the 142.5k ticket on hold for 72 hours, release the 144k ticket and see what happens again in the next few days...
If it keeps dropping by 500 miles every day I should definitely wait a couple of months to book though .
#209
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 415
I am in this dynamic pricing situation now with 3 tickets I redeemed for flight in a few months MAN-CDG-DXB in J, redeemed for 57.5k miles per person (172.5k total) and then 3 days later price on exact same flights has now dropped to 52k miles each per person (156k total). Considering whether to rebook at new cost and then cancel original tickets in order to get back 16.5k miles but it will cost 3 x EUR 45 (Eur 135) to do so.
Guess it depends on what value you put on FB miles.
Guess it depends on what value you put on FB miles.
#210
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Flying Blue Silver
Posts: 123
Thanks caliform and Ditto, I booked the award (my first ever and it's not even for myself ) and it seems like all Platinum benefits are connected to the ticket, I was able to select the seat free of charge.
To contribute a little to the thread, I think the 29,000 miles they asked for MEX-CDG-NUE in Y oneway are a fair miles amount. Interestingly the amount per direction did not change if I choose a round-trip or oneway. If we followed the logic "price of ticket = roughly miles amount" then I would have to pay a lot more miles for the full flexible Y ticket I have to buy with cash when selecting an TATL oneway. I decided to partially decrease the miles amount by paying more, with 100 miles less costing 1 EUR more. I was able to choose between 36 EUR more for 3,600 miles less and 72 EUR more for 7,200 less.
This ratio of 1 cent per mile cannot be beaten by either buying miles (even with 100% bonus they cost minimum 1,57 cent per mile) or through miles earning when flying (of course in the latter case you have the benefit of actually getting the service you paid for, going from A to B).
Now crossing my fingers that cancelling would work as well in case the cash price for a roundtrip MEX-NUE-MEX is reasonable in a couple of months.
To contribute a little to the thread, I think the 29,000 miles they asked for MEX-CDG-NUE in Y oneway are a fair miles amount. Interestingly the amount per direction did not change if I choose a round-trip or oneway. If we followed the logic "price of ticket = roughly miles amount" then I would have to pay a lot more miles for the full flexible Y ticket I have to buy with cash when selecting an TATL oneway. I decided to partially decrease the miles amount by paying more, with 100 miles less costing 1 EUR more. I was able to choose between 36 EUR more for 3,600 miles less and 72 EUR more for 7,200 less.
This ratio of 1 cent per mile cannot be beaten by either buying miles (even with 100% bonus they cost minimum 1,57 cent per mile) or through miles earning when flying (of course in the latter case you have the benefit of actually getting the service you paid for, going from A to B).
Now crossing my fingers that cancelling would work as well in case the cash price for a roundtrip MEX-NUE-MEX is reasonable in a couple of months.