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Oct 1, 2017, 8:20 am
#16
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: FB Platinum, SAS Gold , HH Diamond
Posts: 152
Can you really get gold today with only 2000€? (based on miles, not segments, and without excessive mileage runs like going to IKT 
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Even on your mysterious route that gives you 2500 level miles for 270€, you need to spend 4320€, which is also presumably at least 16 r/t which gets you gold by segments earlier.
)Even on your mysterious route that gives you 2500 level miles for 270€, you need to spend 4320€, which is also presumably at least 16 r/t which gets you gold by segments earlier.
Indeed segments would be only possible for 2000€ and less I guess or doing SVO-CDG-TLV x2 which is about 1100€ and gives you nearly gold... so yeah it is possible. I just don't like the fact that I doesn't count how much you fly, but I counts how much you pay. Which in that regards means I could fly CDG-AMS on a 1000€ ticket and get 8.000 miles because I am Plat right?
Oct 1, 2017, 9:05 am
#17
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CPT,AMS
Posts: 4,412
There are some sweet spots to/from russia and the route I always take are 6 segments per run so only 12 r/t for Plat Indeed segments would be only possible for 2000€ and less I guess or doing SVO-CDG-TLV x2 which is about 1100€ and gives you nearly gold... so yeah it is possible.
Indeed segments would be only possible for 2000€ and less I guess or doing SVO-CDG-TLV x2 which is about 1100€ and gives you nearly gold... so yeah it is possible.But that's not that different than how it was today, today you still get a % of the distance based on how much you paid, it's jut not directly linked to € spent, instead it's linked to the booking class which in turns is linked to € spent.
Last edited by Ditto; Oct 1, 2017 at 9:11 am
Oct 1, 2017, 9:16 am
#18
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Berlin, Germany
Programs: DL DM/2MM, UA PE, HH Gold
Posts: 1,080
With the US programmes, are status miles calculated the same way (based on spending)? The FB screenshot only talks about Award miles. Frankly, personally, I have never really earned many miles from flying on cheap economy fares so I am not that concerned...however status miles, or status in general, is much more important. Is earning status going to change as well...
$ 3000 for silver
$ 6000 for gold
$ 9000 for plat
$ 15000 for diamond
right now.
Oct 1, 2017, 9:57 am
#19
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: FB Platinum, SAS Gold , HH Diamond
Posts: 152
Just wouldn't like the experience "in my head" it's january 1st and the goal for me would be: "Spend 5000€ with KLM/AF" instead of "Maybe I could do one/two great/cheap trips this year and get a lot of miles without spending 5000€ to get gold".
Oct 1, 2017, 10:12 am
#20
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CPT,AMS
Posts: 4,412
Oct 1, 2017, 11:26 am
#21
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: FB Platinum, SAS Gold , HH Diamond
Posts: 152
Oct 1, 2017, 12:09 pm
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 18,364
NO! In Skymiles your status miles are still earned the old way - by distance flown. You can qualify by either Q-miles or Q-segments BUT you have to meet a minimum $ spending for each tier. For Delta it's
$ 3000 for silver
$ 6000 for gold
$ 9000 for plat
$ 15000 for diamond
right now.
$ 3000 for silver
$ 6000 for gold
$ 9000 for plat
$ 15000 for diamond
right now.
Under US programmes (whether DL's Skymiles or AA's AAdvantage), spend is relevant for qualification too, in that you need to achieve the required number of miles or segments AND the required spend.
Your post is 100% accurate but I think it is important to place the emphasis on the fact that the spend target must be achieved and it is not possible to qualify for elite status just on segments or distance+booking class.
Oct 1, 2017, 12:11 pm
#23
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Flying Blue, Accor Le Club, Hilton HHonors, Hertz Gold Plus, Avis Preferred
Posts: 477
I'm wondering what is going to happen to miles earn through the AF Amex.
Oct 1, 2017, 12:58 pm
#24
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep. / Washington, DC
Programs: AA PPro/DL PLT, PPass, Marriott / Hilton Gold, JetBlue Mosaic, Hertz Presidents Circle, Amex Plat
Posts: 4,631
No. Status miles are not calculated the same way. They are still calculated based on the distance and multiplied by 1.5 or 2 depending on the higher fare classes.
The route I always fly gets me 10,368 status miles in Economy and 15,554 in Business no matter how much I pay for the flight, however, the award miles vary depending on the ticket price.
The route I always fly gets me 10,368 status miles in Economy and 15,554 in Business no matter how much I pay for the flight, however, the award miles vary depending on the ticket price.
Oct 1, 2017, 1:00 pm
#25
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 18,364
No. Status miles are not calculated the same way. They are still calculated based on the distance and multiplied by 1.5 or 2 depending on the higher fare classes.
The route I always fly gets me 10,368 status miles in Economy and 15,554 in Business no matter how much I pay for the flight, however, the award miles vary depending on the ticket price.
The route I always fly gets me 10,368 status miles in Economy and 15,554 in Business no matter how much I pay for the flight, however, the award miles vary depending on the ticket price.
Oct 1, 2017, 1:17 pm
#27
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep. / Washington, DC
Programs: AA PPro/DL PLT, PPass, Marriott / Hilton Gold, JetBlue Mosaic, Hertz Presidents Circle, Amex Plat
Posts: 4,631
I refer the honourable FT member to post #22 .
However, for those of us who don't live in the U.S, spending is not taken into account (at least on DL and UA) since only those residing in the US have to spend a minimum amount to be able to reach a specific status.
Oct 1, 2017, 3:00 pm
#28
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: London
Programs: SK Gold, ITA Executive, Sixt Diamond, Hertz PC, Avis PC, IHG Platinum
Posts: 5,163
If one is to book tickets for travel after this comes into force [potentially], would the old or new rules apply at the time of mileage crediting?
Oct 1, 2017, 4:19 pm
#29
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 18,364
IIRC, historically, FB has applied new earning rules regardless of booking date although the legality of such an approach is rather dubious.
Oct 1, 2017, 7:13 pm
#30
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 785
I understood Xandrios's question as asking whether spend was relevant only for awards and not for elite qualification.
Under US programmes (whether DL's Skymiles or AA's AAdvantage), spend is relevant for qualification too, in that you need to achieve the required number of miles or segments AND the required spend.
Your post is 100% accurate but I think it is important to place the emphasis on the fact that the spend target must be achieved and it is not possible to qualify for elite status just on segments or distance+booking class.
Under US programmes (whether DL's Skymiles or AA's AAdvantage), spend is relevant for qualification too, in that you need to achieve the required number of miles or segments AND the required spend.
Your post is 100% accurate but I think it is important to place the emphasis on the fact that the spend target must be achieved and it is not possible to qualify for elite status just on segments or distance+booking class.