Goldorak

Tight but certainly feasible. No immigration to clear, but security to pass. Both flights are in 2E, not necessarily in the same concourse (you will arrive in K or L but can depart from K, L or M.

luv2ctheworld

Been doing some due diligence/planning for an upcoming departure from CDG mid-June. Read the past 2 yrs posts - as I understand it, the following applies to my situation:
1) Departing from 2E, flying AF to USA in J - no checked luggage - we will have access to SkyPriority security
2) Immigration/Passport control - Cannot use PARAFE due to minors, so will look for Accès n°1 (and hope it is staffed sufficiently and/or not a large amount of inbound pax drawing PAF resources to other side of the immigration)

My departure is around 1:30pm on a Wednesday; any ideas how congested CDG 2E will be during those times? Not sure if that is considered a busy time or not.

I believe 2 hours should be enough, given J/priority access; if we miss the RER B, I presume next one should get us in with maybe 1:45; and still be relatively safe.

Thoughts?

TIA.

Goldorak

The terminal is extremely busy between 9 to 12. I recommend you to arrive 2.5 hrs before flight. You can certainly make it in 2hrs, but not less. Too risky IMO.

frappant

I have an 80-minute connection between AF83 and AF7306 in a couple of weeks.

My ticket purchased in February says gate 2E to 2F.

Is that enough time to clear immigration and get fro 2E to 2F, assuming those remain the terminals?

I guess very little time if any for whatever lounge I could use on a P fare.

Goldorak

Yes, they sell it so it's feasible !
For the lounge, you say you are in a P fare, so are you really in first class on AF83 ? If yes, you will be escorted from AF83 gate to the P lounge and then to your connecting flight by car. You don't have to bother about anything.

frappant

No by P fare I meant discount business class.

Aknoff

I just did this exact itinerary last week. AF CDG-DEN in J departing at 1:30pm, no checked bags and mobile boarding passes in hand (just two adults though). We arrived to Terminal 2 by train at 11:45am, and we were in the 2E Hall M lounge at 12:15pm. SkyPriority immigration and security weren't too bad (maybe 8-10 people deep), though an overzealous security agent did completely unpack at least 1 bag, which probably burned another 5-10 minutes. I can confirm the regular immigration and security lines were very long. I think 2.5 hours would be overkill, but not by much. Plus, with the kiddo things are sure to move slower, from my experience.

Goldorak

You should have booked that with DL, because P is not a business class fare with AF (P is first class). Anyway, you will have access to the AF lounge in 2F for your connection (and of course to the SF SFO lounge on departure).

hhdl

DL P is their full-fare premium economy fare class (PAG). I believe P tends to be the deep discount business class fare in the Star Alliance airlines.

aradisc

Screenshot from Air France app for my flight the other day.

Why do they do this to people?!? Having transited CDG a fair amount, I understand this means that they prefer to have this flight check in at 2F for whatever reason before proceeding to 2E - L. But it's total nonsense with the schema and wayfinding inside.

BA6501

It’s better to think of CDG as:
- landside: T1, T2A / 2B / 2C / 2D / 2E / 2F / 2G / T3
- airside: various T1 gate areas, A B C D K L M F G gates, T3 gates

Goldorak

Totally, it's super confusing for connecting people. You can see on connecting flight screens "terminal 2F" so people follow that to discover later at one of the checkpoint that they are not going at the right place. I have been saying that for years to AF people but nothing changes. Of course the resolution has to be by ADP which adds an enormous amount of complexity...

aradisc

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But the airside signage all says K, L, M are part of 2E... so you have a mobile app, boarding pass, and screens that say your flight is in 2F, but you need to know to actually ignore this and follow signs to 2E L.

One easy if incomplete fix would be to drop 2E from the signage for L and M and just call them plain L and M. The official CDG map kind of hints at this by just labeling areas as Portes K / L / M but the airside signage is all 2E.

Porcepic

Add on this you can arrive at hall L but the crew would announce you arrive at "hall K" because the gate from a pilot's perspective (ground markage) in this hall can be named K**.
Thus you may actually connect from hall L to hall L... but be told by AF crew and app than you connect from hall K to terminal 2F.

Fabo.sk

AF crew at least should be knowledgeable enough... but yeah, it's a mess. 2E-K is E gates, which, I guess when it opened it was just T2E? maybe?

But T2E-L can be gates E,F or K. T2E-M gates K or L. And to top it off they are marked as Terminal S3 and Terminal S4.