Impact on transport of ongoing political disputes and strike actions
#136
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Information published on Eurocontrol NOP:
A call for ATC Industrial action in France has been issued by DSNA Unions representing around 70% of ATCOs, from 0500 UTC on the 15th of September until 0500 UTC on the 16th of September. If the call for industrial action would be confirmed:
NM teleconference is foreseen for Thursday, 14th of September at 1330 UTC.
- Minimum service will be implemented on all ACCs and 16 APP
- Flight reduction programs on airports where DSNA is operated are still under discussions and will be finalized on Monday or Tuesday
NM teleconference is foreseen for Thursday, 14th of September at 1330 UTC.
#137
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Without trying to sound dumb, would somebody be able to tell me what the abbreviations stand for?
- ACC
- APP
- DSNA
- NM teleconference
I'm great with airport codes, but this is too obscure for me.
- ACC
- APP
- DSNA
- NM teleconference
I'm great with airport codes, but this is too obscure for me.
#138
Join Date: Jul 2018
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APP: Approach
DSNA: direction des services de la Navigation arienne
NM: New Mexico /s . I have no idea but I'd guess News Meda conference?
Source for the others
#139
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Thanks for the update. Does CDG fall under DSNA, meaning we would expect reductions rather then 'minimum serivce'? From the sound of it the 16 smaller airports would see little to no traffic in the time period mentioned.
Edit:
NM seems to stand for Network Manager, I suspect a group within Eurocontrol.
Edit:
NM seems to stand for Network Manager, I suspect a group within Eurocontrol.
Last edited by Xandrios; Sep 11, 2023 at 7:19 am
#140
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While it doesn't impact air travel, there's a planned strike with SNCF (trains) on Tuesday Sept 26. It could impact you if you plan to take a train before or after your flight or have one of those AF "TGV+Air" tickets. Details on impacted trains will be communicated 1-2 days in advance.
Source (in French): https://www.cheminotcgt.fr/wp-conten..._Septembre.pdf
Source (in French): https://www.cheminotcgt.fr/wp-conten..._Septembre.pdf
#142
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Practically no risk of impact. As mentioned, long haul operations at Roissy are prioritised, and in the past even during higher-profile social movements, there were few impacts.
#143
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Good news, there will be no ATC strike on Friday (09/15/23). It has been called off by the trade union (SNCTA) after reaching an agreement with the French government (DGAC).
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...309120505.html (sorry, in French)
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...309120505.html (sorry, in French)
Last edited by petitaix; Sep 12, 2023 at 8:54 am
#145
Join Date: Jun 2011
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The DGAC just announced that due to a social movement this Friday (13/10), 40% of flights at ORY and 20% of flights at MRS will be cancelled. Plan accordingly.
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...310090662.html
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...310090662.html
#146
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The DGAC just announced that due to a social movement this Friday (13/10), 40% of flights at ORY and 20% of flights at MRS will be cancelled. Plan accordingly.
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...310090662.html
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entre...310090662.html
#147
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Heads up : a strike by minority unions planned for 20/11.
25% reduction of flights at Paris-Orly and TLS
20% reduction of flights at BOD and MRS.
The topic at issue : potentially fewer/reduced strike impacts in the future, as the DGAC wants to mandate that individuals who plan to participate in a strike, to notify of their intent to participate. Currently, individuals don't need to inform of his/her intent to participate in a strike, and thus the DGAC has been erring on the side of caution in mandating flight reductions, assuming everyone in a striking union will participate.
25% reduction of flights at Paris-Orly and TLS
20% reduction of flights at BOD and MRS.
The topic at issue : potentially fewer/reduced strike impacts in the future, as the DGAC wants to mandate that individuals who plan to participate in a strike, to notify of their intent to participate. Currently, individuals don't need to inform of his/her intent to participate in a strike, and thus the DGAC has been erring on the side of caution in mandating flight reductions, assuming everyone in a striking union will participate.
#148
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Heads up : a strike by minority unions planned for 20/11.
25% reduction of flights at Paris-Orly and TLS
20% reduction of flights at BOD and MRS.
The topic at issue : potentially fewer/reduced strike impacts in the future, as the DGAC wants to mandate that individuals who plan to participate in a strike, to notify of their intent to participate. Currently, individuals don't need to inform of his/her intent to participate in a strike, and thus the DGAC has been erring on the side of caution in mandating flight reductions, assuming everyone in a striking union will participate.
25% reduction of flights at Paris-Orly and TLS
20% reduction of flights at BOD and MRS.
The topic at issue : potentially fewer/reduced strike impacts in the future, as the DGAC wants to mandate that individuals who plan to participate in a strike, to notify of their intent to participate. Currently, individuals don't need to inform of his/her intent to participate in a strike, and thus the DGAC has been erring on the side of caution in mandating flight reductions, assuming everyone in a striking union will participate.
Given that only Nupes is against the reform, theres a good chance its finally going to be implemented. Lets see how it goes on Dec 12th with the Conseil dEtat !
#149
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Given that only Nupes is against the reform, theres a good chance its finally going to be implemented. Lets see how it goes on Dec 12th with the Conseil dEtat !
#150
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Well, the whole point of a strike is to be disruptive. If a strike does not disrupt anybody, it is pretty pointless, is it not? From that perspective, it is not difficult to understand why Unions would generally not be favourable to any change that makes strikes less effective. Also, the requirement for an individual declaration in advance of strike action is highly unusual in strike regulation, at any rate in democracies that fully recognise the right to strike. Even in the UK, which probably has the most restrictive regulatory framework for striking in Europe, there is no such requirement. That said, this is something that already exists in France for rail workers and the peculiarity of French industrial relations makes comparisons with elsewhere fraught with difficulties.